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Etterra, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

Hey Australia, we’ve got enough stupid moral crusader nut jobs here in America; please stop making yours our problem too.

Azal,

Don’t forget Ruport Murdoch who’s been pushing the right wing agenda across the country is an Australian export. This is not unusual from that country honestly.

pulsewidth,

He is from Australia originally, but he’s been a US naturalised citizen and lived there full-time since 1985, he gave up Australian citizenship 40 years ago.

No backsies.

Bronzebeard,

How about we just send him half way back?

deltapi,

I don’t think South Africa wants him either.

Bronzebeard,

No, the other way. I assume it will be the middle of the ocean

pulsewidth,

Deal if you send just half of him back.

Which half is dealers choice, and no need for a contiguous half. It can be half by volume.

Etterra,

Faux News has been the Right’s propaganda arm since inception, and I’ll call when that decrepit old bastard finally gets his ticket punched.

SereneSadie,

As if the Yankee sycophants are staying in their own lane as ism

Etterra,

Oh uncontested, but when somebody’s septic tank is already full, you don’t need to go shitting in their toilet.

Toes, do gaming w Warner Bros. Games is working on another live-service game, despite Suicide Squad flop | Eurogamer

They still need to finish back4blood!

ampersandrew, do games w Warner Bros. Games is working on another live-service game, despite Suicide Squad flop
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

At this point, I’m convinced that most developers have forgotten how to make a multiplayer game that isn’t live service. Larian still remembers, but you’d think some people who make action games would remember too.

partial_accumen,

I don’t think the developers have forgotten, they just can’t get permission from management to make one because management demands MRR (Monthly Recurring Revenue) as part of the business model because that is valued at 7x EBITDA.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

No, that’s not it. Single player games still get made. You can monetize multiplayer much the same way, but basically no one makes a multiplayer game that you just sell once, maybe with an expansion or two, like they do single player games. Naughty Dog threw their hands in the air and said, “These are the only two options, and we choose single player!” instead of just selling a Last of Us multiplayer game for a single purchase.

Mark12870,

Idk… I just played Phasmophobia yesterday with friends and had a lot of fun. 🤷🏻‍♂️ So its only about people decision for what they want to spend their money.

scrubbles,
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What, you mean like a game you only buy once and just play online for free after that? Why would anyone want that?

sad_detective_man, do games w Warner Bros. Games is working on another live-service game, despite Suicide Squad flop
@sad_detective_man@leminal.space avatar

who is actually buying these? I thought having disposable income would preclude someone from thinking a live service grind that’s dead in a couple of months is a good use of time

Treczoks, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

I’m expecting many services to accept alternative payment methods soon, just to beon the safe side from meddling ex-monopolies.

derpgon,

Stable coins on the rise, buy while they are cheap!

Treczoks,

I thought more of Wero or Taler.

AmazingAwesomator, do games w Warner Bros. Games is working on another live-service game, despite Suicide Squad flop

dear warner brothers games,

what is the end of life plan for this game?

sincerely, everyone

spankmonkey,
@spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

Thinking of picking it up a month after release?

They haven’t had successful plans for the life of games.

brsrklf, do games w Warner Bros. Games is working on another live-service game, despite Suicide Squad flop

Still needing an excuse to fire more people?

MITM0, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

They can lobby ? Ok they’re a threat

TachyonTele, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

Why are you censoring words?

november,

+1

Self-censoring words like “sexualize” is part of the culture responsible for this.

chicken,

Kind of inevitable when automated moderation becomes the norm

november,

I was gonna say that’s not necessary here, but actually many Lemmy servers do have a completely asinine word filter, and the devs have never heard of the Scunthorpe Problem.

filcuk,

That censorship is from the article itself…

Bronzebeard,

Went to Google scunthorpe problem…figured it out as I typed it.

lime,
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

it’s a quote

ICastFist, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Nitpick: I’d like to know what part of incest implies violence and abuse.

Btw, does anyone know if Madmind Studios’ games were delisted as well? Agony and Succubus would make the fuckwits of Collective Shout shit themselves

SirSamuel,

Leaving aside how gross it is, and separate from whether corporations should be the arbiters of morality:

Incest between parent and child, even if the offspring is of legal age of consent, would imply an insurmountable power differential as well as likely grooming. Incest between siblings would depend on the age differential and authority structure of the family. It’s not a case of incest=abuse, but of how likely it could imply abuse. The challenge is nuance. The goal is harm reduction

I understand that for some incest porn is enjoyable, not because they would commit incest themselves, but because incest=forbidden=naughty=sexy. Maybe that’s you? In any case, you asked how violence is implied, and that’s my take

paultimate14, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

As they should have. Why should Steam or Itch.Io have to respond to every tiny cult of religious nutjibs making ridiculous requests?

Geobloke,

They didn’t respond to religious nutjobs, maybe read the article

trashgirlfriend,

TERFism, religon

Potato, potato

paultimate14,

I’m not sure what you are saying here?

Are you saying that Valve and Itch did not respond to Collective Shout? Well, so did I… My comment was saying they were justified in doing so.

Are you saying Collective Shout are not religious nutjobs? That’s an easy mistake to make because their website and branding does a really good job of trying to hide it from a casual researcher, but the founder Melissa Reist is pretty obviously a devout Catholic- she gives interviews with Catholic organizations, appears at Catholic youth camps, and describes herself as a “pro-life feminist”, which is of course an oxymoron. She’s definitely a religious nutjob.

november, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

Our objections were to content that involved sexualised violence and torture of women.

Okay so why did m/m smut games get delisted? Get fucked, puritans.

rozodru,

because MC and Visa are morons. According to them in porn 4 fingers and a thumb in a vagina is fine. as soon as you take said fingers and thumb, ball them into a fist, and then stick it in a vagina then they got problems with THAT and it’s a no go.

They have more stupid rules. If you piss on a woman in Europe and film it then it’s fine. If you piss on a woman in the US and film it then it’s not fine. IF you take the footage of someone pissing on a woman IN Europe and SELL it in the US then that’s fine. But Americans are not allowed to pee on Americans on US soil according to Visa and Mastercard.

here’s another one: Incest Porn is not fine according to Visa and MC. “but I see that stuff all the time!” I hear you say dear reader. Yes, because according to MC/Visa you MUST establish that this is a step family relationship in the beginning BUT further into said video you can drop the “step-” moniker and start throwing around regular dads and moms and brothers and sisters all you like.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

But Americans are not allowed to pee on Americans on US soil according to Visa and Mastercard.

So much for ‘land of the free’.

GreenKnight23, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

sounds like it’s time to bring the 90s back. rotten.com here we go.

they want to stop the sale and purchase of adult content, so just give it away for free. shareware that shit and spread it like VD.

SonOfAntenora,

Unironically it will bring more people to dark corners of the net, foul content was always free. Now i’m not going for these games, but also comparing the entire nsfw genre to specific games is disingenuous. At the same time violence and shocking real life images are fine, right?

Nsfw involves adult themes that aren’t sexual.

That means censoring the self expression of consenting adults.

This creates a huge bottleneck that eventually just leads to this growing in the back of the visible. Porn addiction is a problem, sure. How did pre-teens gain access to this content? Didn’t parents give them a fully capable computer at all times?

Back when i used a computer, I only had access to research and office, also flash games. Other than that I had other devices and offline games, on cd.

Modern devices have better parental controls but nobody uses them, old computers had virtually none. Turns out you can do your parenting.

The dangers of this privacy invasive solution is the exposure of personal ID to questionable places, while bringing people towards bad places, that don’t ask for things.

Kinda like pirating a game as a kid, because you couldn’t buy it, but you only got viruses afterwards. Same deal.

yermaw, do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

This is the worst outcome. At least if those games are for sale you can track who’s buying them and have a list of potential offenders.

amino,

the Stasi are never gonna stop at the particular marginalized group you dislike. plus nobody’s offending shit, being a freak isn’t illegal (yet). acting like it is certainly helps move the overton window that way though

yermaw,

I might not have worded it correctly, but if your aim is to keep women safe from sexual assault, then removing an outlet for people who want to do that, while also removing a potential indicator for that kind of behaviour its a double screw over.

Im well aware that its nothing to do with safety or decency and is just a motte and Bailey attack on our freedoms.

amino,

gotcha, my whole issue was with the whole state surveillance of “dangerous people” part of it, because trans people are gonna end up on that list just for existing

bluefootedbooby, (edited ) do games w "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

Their logo is a butthole - is this some sort of elaborate troll??

FooBarrington,

No no, it represents the crossroads of learning

bluefootedbooby,

Learning about anal, maybe

thatKamGuy,

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