Just as a bit of a counter to all the Isaac love (and, don’t get me wrong, I love Isaac):
BoI is probably the best roguelite… from the early 2010s. The gameplay is ridiculously solid but the upgrade design and drop system has too much in common with the roguelikes of old where you would often lose a run because the purple potion was instant death on this run.
There are just so many upgrades and synergies that you might become completely unkillable on floor 2 of one run and then have your entire build ruined on floor 5 of a different run. I STRONGLY encourage playing with the wiki or tboi.com open on a second device/display to avoid these run ruining pickups because you happened to forget what THAT weird egg looking thing did with a different weird looking egg thing.
On PC there are mods that integrate this into the game (and I think you can use it with achievements after your first matricide?). And I think Edmund has said he wants to add that to the base game sooner than later?
But contrast that with games like Hades where basically every single upgrade is a pure upgrade and you have good item descriptions before you pick anything up (so it is mostly a case of deciding what damage types you want to spec for). Or Dead Cells where you can easily swap out a weapon if you decide you didn’t like it. But in Isaac? You are basically chugging mystery potions on every floor.
avoid these run ruining pickups because you happened to forget what THAT weird egg looking thing did with a different weird looking egg thing.
The stupid behavior of X item sucks is part of the fun of the game and why it’s so great, though. You pretty much forget all those broken runs you got, but I’ll never forget the times I found Plan C or used the Bible on Satan. I also think you’re missing that repentance modernized all this and there’s even fewer bad items than before. At this point there are only a handful of truly bad items.
Hades is great and holds your hand, but the fact that every upgrade is more-or-less the same type of skill addition to your build is also boring.
Duskers. A game that seems to be inspired heavily by the aesthetics of the first Alien movie. Instead of one terrifying xenomorph, there are four (?) different kinds all working independently to exterminate humanity. You’re at the point in the story where they’ve basically succeeded, and you’re trying to figure out what the heck happened. You get to do some basic scripting as well!
As much as I want to love rogue light games, I just can’t get into most because I do not enjoy repeating the same thing over and over. It’s especially exhausting when you start doing 30-40 minutes runs and I am just like, nah, there’s no way I’m doing another run once I die. With that said, my favorite by far is also Slay the Spire because a run doesn’t take very long and is lighthearted, so it works perfectly. The other games I enjoyed were Dead Cells, and Children of Morta. Hades was great as well, but you mentioned that.
For folks browsing the thread, not OP who already is done with Hades, I came to this thread to plug Hades because I hate roguelikes but enjoyed Hades. Story suckered me in, and it turns out the gameplay was fun too.
Hades 2 is in early access, but it’s already very polished. They’re releasing more areas with each patch, but it honestly already feels like a complete game.
Oczywiście że nie udało mi się namówić nikogo. Mimo licznych prób. I prawdopodobnie się już nie uda. Niektórzy próbowali i się wycofali, niektórym nie chciało się nawet próbować. Inicjalnie był czasem nawet entuzjazm, ale malał z każdą chwilą, aż ludzie w końcu odpadali i zostawiali te konta samym sobie.
Lista powodów z cytatami poniżej. I to wcale nie tak, że uważam wszystkie te powody za bzdurne.
“tam nikogo nie ma”
“nie wiem jak się tego używa i nie chce mi się dowiadywać / nie wiem o co z tym chodzi i nie chcę wiedzieć”
“źle działa na telefonie / nie ma appki”
“to jakiś klon telegrama???”
“nie będę zakładać kolejnego konta na kolejnym portalu, i tak jest już za dużo tych social mediów”
“nie ma tu ludzi których obserwuję na FB/insta i nie namówię ich żeby się przenieśli”
“mam to konto ale nie mam siły postować na wszystkich mediach po kolei, więc postuję na mainstreamowych, bo tam najwięcej ludzi to widzi i mam interakcje”
“byłem tam ale tam są sami ludzie gadający o tym że ten główny internet to zło, a jak są jakieś społeczności tematyczne to malutkie”
“byłam tam ale tam chyba wszyscy są informatykami i gadają o linuxie”
“na mastodonie pokazują się wszystkie posty jak leci i to męczy, bo niektórzy postują co godzinę albo co paręnaście minut i ma się przesycenie”
“na tym fediwersum nie ma odpowiednika serwisów obrazkowych, a ja głównie na takich siedzę (Pinterest/Tumblr/Instagram/coś tam innego)”
“niby spoko ale trzeba opisywać każdy obrazek tym tekstem dla niewidomych, bo inaczej ludzie na ciebie naskakują, a ja nie mam siły/nie chce mi się/nie wiem o co ta afera skoro istnieją AI do tego” (ale ta osoba i tak ma konto i go używa, tylko siedzi na anglojęzycznych przestrzeniach)
Niektóre z tych komentarzy pochodzą od tych samych osób. Jak chodzi o mnie to ja podzielam głównie pogląd o bazie użytkowników: trudno znaleźć ludzi postujących aktywnie, którzy nie byliby geekami albo miłośnikami kolei (xD). A jednak na social media wchodzi się nie po to żeby poznawać jeden typ ludzi, a żeby mieć okazję zetknąć się z różnorodnymi perspektywami. Ja dopiero na Facebooku odkryłam różne światy, o których istnieniu nie miałam w życiu pojęcia (jak posty: Aliny Czyżewskiej o mobbingu w instytucjach kultury, Anny Krawczak o systemie pieczy zastępczej, Piotra z profilu “Ukraina: Wojna”, i tak dalej i tak dalej). I fakt, tych ludzi nie namówi się na przesiadkę na inne media, a nawet gdyby, to ich followersi nie pójdą za nimi. W dobie nadprodukcji treści, jeśli znika twój ulubiony influenser, znajdujesz sobie nowego influensera. Musi być efekt skali, a żeby był efekt skali, musi być efekt skali. To błędne koło.
I tak tu siedzę i co jakiś czas namawiam ludzi, ale zauważam, że coraz więcej z nich zaczyna po prostu odchodzić od social mediów - a kiedy słyszą o tym, że mieliby sobie zakładać następne, to uderza ich nagle świadomość, że jest tego przecież i tak już za dużo.
Co do 11 punktu to istnieje Pixelfed, ale tak ogólnie to masz rację.
Aby ktokolwiek przeniósł się na jakiś portal społecznościowy to sam musi mieć tego intencję, bo tak jak będziemy kogoś przekonywać “na siłę”, to z perspektywy tej osoby jest wyłącznie przeskakiwaniem z jednego portalu na drugi w nieskończoność.
Myślę, że warto zwracać (sobie) uwagę, żeby nie promować „przejścia”, a „założenie konta i odwiedzanie go od czasu do czasu”. Dobrym sposobem jest też przypominanie, że pozostawione powiadomienia na e-mail pozwalają się zawołać. No bo faktycznie trzeba być dużo bardziej zdeterminowanym, żeby tamte miejsca porzucić. I jeśli ktoś taki jest to nie wymaga namawiania… sam już przyszedł, albo zaraz przyjdzie, zwykli ludzie jak mają koniecznie wybrać tu czy tam, to w sumie nie dziwię się jeśli wolą tam…
Me and my cousin played FFXI starting in the beta. I got the game for free at official launch and we played for a long time. But the greatest moment of gaming excitement is when we got the peacock charm drop from a super rare NM. I’m pretty sure it was the rarest, most valuable item in the game at the time. The NM was deep in a maze, and had a huge spawn window. I think it was something like an IRL week or something, and even if you managed to tag it from the countless other players camping it, you still had a very low chance of the drop.
I spent the night at my cousins one weekend and we went to bed one night after camping it for hours and left our characters logged in at the spawn point so we could check the combat logs to see if anyone got it while we were asleep. When I woke up, it had not spawned, but my cousin had already got up and left the cave. I was surprisingly alone in that room for the first time ever. No other players. After about 30 minutes, it spawns. I’m alone, and not strong enough to kill it by myself. My cousin somehow managed to make it from Jueno to the maze (like at least a 10 minute run) before anyone else showed up, and we got the kill and the drop.
We were literally screaming and high fiving so hard that his step mom thought we had won the lottery or something.
We both put it on at least once just to say we had, and sold it for more money than we’d ever imagined. We then bought the best gear for our characters and felt like gods.
Never even made it to max level, but holy crap nothing has ever come close to that level of excitement in or out of a game.
I still play ffxi to this day and I fully remember moments like that. Good nostalgia but I’m also glad they don’t make games like that anymore. FFXI itself has been modernized to remove this kind of grind and is still getting new content updates. You should check it out again.
Me and that same cousin got together and played it again 3 or 4 years back and got to 99. The grind at max level is just too strong to keep my interest. He, however, got into the ffxi horizon fan server that’s pretty much exactly like original XI, but with some QOL additions and an added hardcore mode. He got summoner to level 75 in hardcore mode and died like 2 days later. You don’t lose your character, but there are some cool items you get from hitting certain level milestones that you do lose. One of which was a ring with a teleport spell on it that had unlimited charges and only like a 20 minute cool down that you get st 75. It also does a server wide announcement when a hardcore character that high dies, so everyone was messaging him. He got super bummed and quit.
Breath of the Wild: stepping out of the cave in the begining, seeing that vast world in front of Link waiting to be explored
The Switch was the first console I had since the PS2, and the PC “gaming” I did in the meantime was mostly retro games on emulators or a bit of Stardew Valley, so the contrast to that was HUGE.
Another one was re-playing Ragnarok Online months after quitting (and giving away all equipment and deleting all characters) with a friend. We were barely second job class (he was Hunter, I was Priest) and rudimentarily equipped enough to beat Abyss Knights, so we went leveling in the area where those sometimes spawn. AND ONE OF THEM DROPPED A CARD! Cards are extremely rare (allegedly 0.01% drop chance) and monster-specific, and the Abyss Knight card is extremely valuable. So from one second to the next, we practically went from piss poor to rich AF.
Another extremely lucky moment was in Diablo 2: a regular cow in the Cow Level dropped a (perfect!) Windforce, at the time one of the best unique items in the game. I don’t remember exactly but IIRC from some online calculator the chances for this drop were under one in a million (I wasn’t even wearing anything with lots of MF%)
At least in recent memory, it was Dragon’s Dogma 2 teaching me that I could pick up and carry downed party members by having one of my party members pick up another one and bring them over to me. There’s so much that’s possible in DD2 that just isn’t in a typical videogame, that throughout the entire experience I was mostly learning niche interactions from my other party members instead of my own experimentation. It was a really cool experience, and felt way more impactful then a text prompt just lecturing me about all the mechanics the game has.
I FOUND IT! I ACTUALLY FOUND IT! I had exhausted all my more targeted ways of finding it and resorted to Google images searching for “point and click game bar” and found a screenshot I recognised.
A few years back, testing out new zombie infection game mode in indie VR FPS, 12 of us on the server including the dev. I’m last man standing, everyone else is infected, making scary zombie noises as I pick them off with my trusty bow and arrow. I eventually succumb to the inevitable and get piled on, they’re all too distracted making brain eating noises to notice the martyrdom grenade fall to the floor…
As a millennial, I’m probably not alone when I write Red Alert, Atlantis, Diablo and Fallout 2 on a computer without internet connection. Also endless demos from PC Gamer CDs.
The more unusual game I want to add is Warlords 3. Got it as a Christmas gift from my cousins boyfriend (he was maybe 20 years older than me). Probably because he wanted someone he could play shared screen PvP with. Spent a lot of time with that game. The same guy also gave me a pirate copy of Diablo. I should probably give him a call today and thank him.
Also playing Tibia on a 33k dial up connection was special. A very laggy and expensive experience. Always afraid that mom would just turn off the connection because she had to make a phone call. And the true horror I felt when I encountered another player or a new monster deep within an unexplored dungeon. I didn’t like WoW when it came out. Probably because of emotional bluntedness that free PvP in combination with gear + xp loss causes.
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