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Diddlydee, do games w Favorite retro games?

Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Shinobi, Gunstar Heroes, Splatterhouse 3.

EvilBit,

Gunstar fucking Heroes. You’re a gentleperson and a scholar.

setsneedtofeed, do games w Favorite retro games?
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Fallout 1, which I’ve probably replayed about ten times more than the second game. It’s concise, with this depressing and dark world that gives a feeling never fully replicated in sequels.

Lords Of The Realm 2, a great little strategy game with an effortlessly charming aesthetic.

Civil War Generals 2, when I feel like really grinding out a strategy game. It has the bright colors and charming graphics which create a clear and readable battlefield that can be brutally difficult as units get ground down into ragged bands.

slazer2au, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?

I’ve learned that over in the EU, people can actually re-sell their games on Steam.

Going to need your source on that mate.

Soulifix,

I'm not doing the leg work for you. If you're that curious, you look it up.

nogooduser,

If you make a claim like that then you obviously got it from somewhere. That means that it should be easier for you to quote that source.

From the other side it could be very difficult to disprove it because it might not explicitly be stated that it isn’t allowed. It might just not provide the functionality to resell the games. Looking for a source to prove that something doesn’t exist is very hard.

otp,

You said “I’ve learned” meaning it’s not common knowledge. This post also makes it sound like something you’ve recently learned. So you should have the source handy, no?

slazer2au,

Ah, your one of those “do your own research” people as opposed to here is my supporting information.

earphone843,

There is a balance, though. Just saying, “Source,” and expecting to be spoon fed information from a stranger on the internet is just as bad.

Like, if I was dubious about a claim, I wouldn’t trust the person making the claim to give me unbiased sources, so I research it myself. Trying to be a pedantic ass is a large part of why I’m knowledgeable on so many subjects.

In fact, I’ll only ask for a source if I know they can’t provide one.

FelixCress,

eurogamer.net/eu-rules-publishers-cannot-stop-you…

The Court said the exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by the license is “exhausted on its first sale”.

The ruling means that gamers in European Union member states are free to sell their downloaded games, whether they’re from Steam, Origin or another digital platform - no matter what End User License Agreement has been signed.

The ruling continues: “Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy.”

And then

game8.co/…/steam-gog-and-others-must-allow-resell…

gratux,
@gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

so this is about selling your steam account, since you can’t sell individual keys?

FelixCress, (edited )

Pass, no idea. There appears to be a European Court of Justice ruling saying that you are entitled to sell individual pieces of software and Steam cannot stop you from doing so, ie their EULA is invalid in this regard.

But I am not aware about any legislation which would force them to create a mechanism for you to do so. I have only googled the entire thing out of curiosity.

I guess it is easier with GoG games, you can just copy them to someone else’s pc, delete from your machine and it is sorted, someone else can use them.

Yokozuna, do games w Favorite retro games?

Legend of dragoon always holds a special place in my heart.

Vinny_93, do games w Are there any games like Starfield?

Star Citizen will get a story mode called Squadron 42 witch should be feature complete and it has a star studded Hollywood cast. It looks worthwile but it won’t be here for at least a year.

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor,

A year or twenty. Given how long they are taking, I wouldn’t be surprised if the game was never released.

verdigris,

SQ42 has gone gold and is in polish phase, I would expect it within two years for sure.

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor,

Given the history of these guys, I am not gonna believe it until I see the game released and in the stores. Until then, as everything around star citizen, this is vaporware aimed at milking the whales that keep giving them money.

verdigris,

I love how it gets called “vaporware” when it’s a playable product with more gameplay than many MMOs. I’m also very grateful to the whales for providing the funds to develop the game.

deadcream,

I can’t tell if it’s satire or not

leftzero,

Well, Star Citizen is playable right now (and has been for years), and they recently showed over an hour of supposedly live Squadron 42 gameplay (obviously somewhat spoilery for the start of the game), so there’s some hope at least…

Of course, it remains to be seen how much more of the story is finished to the same extent, and at what point will it be consistently playable on contemporary hardware (I haven’t played Star Citizen in a long while, so I’m not sure what state it’s in, and I don’t know if Squadron 42, being a single player game, will be as susceptible to server issues, or if it’ll even need servers), but it gives a good idea of the state of the main game features and how it’s intended to feel.

winety,

I enjoy your optimism. I hope we see Squadron 42 soon and I hope it’s good. (The shitstorm if it isn’t would be huge!)

Aurenkin, (edited )

Yeah the prologue level they showed looked incredible. I really hope they can give the game all the polish it needs, after so long in development they absolutely need to release something with quality to match.

TachyonTele,

Now, many years after the game’s original 2015 release target, developer Roberts Space Industries (RSI) says that, with just a year or two of additional “polish,” the game will finally launch sometime in 2026.

Lmao

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t be so sure that SQ42 will be a guaranteed slam dunk as many SC fans seem to be speculating. That’s if it ever does get released or course.

The gameplay in the recent demo is subpar. FPS combat in particular was trash, far worse than HL1; a game released more than a quarter of a century ago. Turret gunning and the platforming parts looked decent but they are not going to carry the game. No example of player controlled space flight was shown.

The space battles looked nice in a b-movie kind of way, but I have my doubts how this will translate to fun space flight gameplay.

From SC, we know that they have a very history of even basic conceptual balance and they are horrible at iterative play testing.

Regarding the Hollywood cast, Gary Oldman sounded like he wanted to get his money and get out of there ASAP. Anderson wasn’t much better. Writing was some high school-level drivel “we must win because we must!” and lots of shouty one liners. There is a very real possibility that the whole thing will be a Wing Commander: The Movie - 30 hours of tedious custscenes. And you just know it’s going to take itself extremely seriously (think the space bulldozer scene in Wing Commander).

Looking at the UI/UX of SC, it’s not unreasonable to assume SQ42 will suffer the same sorry fate. Very flashy ironman-style UI visuals that are nigh unusable in a video game.

Let’s see what happens.

Furbag,

As much as I’m a fan of the project, I don’t think SC/SQ42 would scratch the same itch that somebody who just got done playing Starfield or Mass Effect would feel. Star Citizen is way more on the simulation side and light on RPG elements.

HubertManne, do games w Favorite retro games?

genesis shadow run. used the shadowrun rules at the time and really alllowed amazing build options for something from so long ago. that and being able to hire runners for your team was really need. only limitation was you had to be human but some people made rom hacks that let you choose race and usually included some bug fixes to.

B0NK3RS, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

Something like re-gifting games and/or a way to trade them back to the storefront (discount % of future purchases etc.) would be interesting.

INeedMana, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

Do you wish that you could recycle games?

No. The system is flawed, of course, but in the end game sells -> publishers see the genre/idea sells -> they are going to fund creating another one like that -> creators with ideas earn money
How strong we feel that publishers leech off creators is a valid point. But in the end that’s how it works right now

Maybe, if publishers and creators were getting some petty tax from each swap, that would enable recycling without killing the positive feedback for a good game. Or open another can of worms. Think what practices would result in more gains with such system in place. I’m afraid it might be churning out low value, highly hyped, hastily created games with paid reviews
Or maybe it’s a good business idea and it will revolutionize industry once someone puts up such a service

But, I think, implemented by the current big ones it would end up badly. It’s a flip of the whole business plan and they would cling to old ideas

Additionally, this idea would probably in practice look more like streaming does. A subscription to access with some “coins” for swapping. And we already see that streaming has negative effects on accessibility to older, niche movies and series

you know you’ve wasted however much money

I know that what I’m going to write doesn’t work for fighting games. But for the rest of them, wait until they are priced what you are comfortable spending based on howlongtobeat. Last night I binged on Citizen Sleeper that is on sale rn. 6hrs of good story for price of 1-2 beers. I usually don’t get back to games I’ve finished, so probably won’t be playing it ever again. But I still feel it was money well spent. And if it wasn’t that great, this price is not the amount I’d regret spending on a meh game

Soulifix,

Maybe, if publishers and creators were getting some petty tax from each swap

You didn't read the part where part of my conceptual ideas consist of paying a fee to gift the game away, that would have to be decided up to Valve and the Developers/Publishers. I only came up with just a start. It's not a perfect idea, but it's there as a return for them because they're going to want some return from this, of course.

INeedMana,
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

I did and my response to that is that it’s very probable it would turn into something dysfunctional

Think what practices would result in more gains with such system in place. I’m afraid it might be churning out low value, highly hyped, hastily created games with paid reviews

But without it, there is no positive feedback for good games

BuboScandiacus, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar
setsneedtofeed, do games w Are there any games like Starfield?
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’m commenting late, but there is The Precursors which does require Slavjank tolerance, but if you have it, it provides an interesting flavor on a space opera adventure.

I also haven’t tried The Tomorrow War which seemingly requires even higher Slavjank tolerance, and probably isn’t a top of all time game, but seems interesting if you like peering into strange forgotten games. Warlockracy did a video of this one.

winety,

I’ve actually heard of The Precursors before. It was featured in Tehsnakerer’s Playing series. I don’t know what my tolerance of slavjank is. I’ve played Operation Flashpoint a lot when I was a kid. Does that qualify as slavjank?

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Really it just means the sorts of bugs you find with minimal QA testing combined with stilted voice acting, potentially untranslated audio or text, cultural beats that don’t quite cross over, and some game design choices that are different than how a game developed alongside western games might do things.

If you can stand this lack of polish, these sorts of games can at least give amusement for their price point.

tacosanonymous, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

I almost only play recycled (digital) games.

tacosanonymous, do games w Favorite retro games?
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

Bc they’re fun and easy to jump into,

Double Dragon II: The Revenge

Super Dodgeball

If you’re looking to spend time/have a complete experience:

Chrono Trigger

Super Mario 64

Final Fantasy VII

Coelacanth, do games w Favorite retro games?
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

It’s not strictly a 90s schmup but I got the original XIII (2003) on sale on GOG last month and played through it. I never played it back then and always thought it looked cool. It’s a shame it wasn’t a big success, the art direction and concept of playing in the panels of a comic strip was really cool and still holds up. I love the typed out sound effects like TAP TAP TAP on footsteps and BOOOM on explosions. So I guess that’s my retro recommendation.

Next for me will be No One Lives Forever, which I also missed back in the day but heard was amazing. It’s been unavailable to purchase for decades but I just recently found out the game is made available to download for free by some fans.

I guess I’m on a bit of an old school spy game kick lately.

theskyisfalling,

XIII was (and still is) a fucking awesome game. Such a breath of fresh air back then trying something entirely new in terms of art direction on an FPS and nailing it!

vorpuni,
@vorpuni@jlai.lu avatar

The split screen multiplayer in XIII on consoles was a lot of fun.

refurbishedrefurbisher, (edited ) do games w Favorite retro games?

Chrono Trigger (Probably the best JRPG ever made, or even the best game ever made)

Terranigma (Very philisophical action RPG that also happens to be a lot of fun)

Silent Hill (The vibes alone make this one, but it also has a great story)

DOOM (This one should be obvious)

Majora’s Mask (An emotional powerhouse of a game)

Tetris

Also pick any mainline console Mario game that came out between 1985 and 1996 (not including The Lost Levels, but including US SMB 2)

Super Mario Land 2

Pokemon 2nd gen

All GOAT, but all for different reasons.

Aurenkin, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?

The games are mine

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