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bloodninja, w After 27,000+ Steam reviews, Overwatch 2 is graded as 'Overwhelmingly Negative'

I stopped playing when they did not let people pick the same heroes. Played more for the fun and the chaos. Did not care if I won as long as I was having fun but the game went the pro gamer route.

Lolors17, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"
@Lolors17@feddit.de avatar

If I’m being honest, they deserve it. I played Overwatch 2 maybe 10 Times, the constant reminder that you aren’t playing for fun, but for a totally original and new character or something very useful like a skin in the battle pass is quite annoying. The 5v5 was at first glance refreshing but got old at a rapid pace. Just play Team Fortress 2 if you’re looking for a great shooter.

LargestDong,

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink,

    They dont push it on you, except when you need to grind 45 levels a season just to be able to play the new character that anyone willing to pay already has.

    Maybe thats not a problem for you, i dont k ow your situation, but i get enough time for maybe 2 or 3 games a night except when i have nothing else on. I BARELY scraped getting rammattra and i had to win 35 games as support to get lifeweaver (which sucked as a solo player). Now theres another one i have no hope in hell of unlocking unless i want to cough up the cash.

    That isnt fun, its a fucking drain. Its boring and its a complete slap in the face for anyone who supported overwatch 1 and waited years for the version of overwatch 2 that we were all promised that isnt going to happen.

    No thanks. Im going to play baldurs gate 3.

    99nights,

    God forbid you have an actual life when it comes to others and gaming.

    LargestDong,

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink,

    So you are saying that you had a different experience to me and that is exactly my point. Putting aside the fact that i glfind it very unlikely that you got the new hero “with ease” i did not and winning 35 games as support as a solo player is not easy or fun.

    Regardless saying you dont need the new hero shows you dont really understand the mechanics of the game. You are supposed to be able to change your character to counter the choices the opposing team have made. If the new character is a good counter and i dont have them then i lose out. Simple as that.

    Dlayknee, w Overwatch 2’s Story Missions Are Good, But Not $15 Good

    So first Blizz dangled these missions as the whole reason for OW2, then after pushing the new game they announced that “sorry, the single-player game was too hard,” and now they’re selling us the scrapped content they abandoned as a one-off?

    Is this real life?

    simple, w A new fan-made port of Wipeout can be played in a web browser

    What I’d do for a Wipeout Omega Collection PC port…

    This is super cool, though

    ABCDE,

    How do you actually play it without smashing into the walls?

    artillect,
    @artillect@kbin.social avatar

    You've gotta start turning kinda early to avoid running into walls, and the c and v keys (brake right and brake left) will help you on really tight corners

    DarkThoughts,

    Never got used to the handling of the ships in Wipeout as a kid. Enjoyed F-Zero X a lot more. Didn't really care for the combat aspects either.

    I wish there was a good anti gravity racer for the PC with extensive ship customization and lots of unlockables though (as in playing to unlock, not paying). There's pretty much just small indie titles and most of them aren't even particularly good.

    JohnEdwa,
    @JohnEdwa@kbin.social avatar

    The only two decent ones with that Wipeout feel that I know are GRiP and Redout.

    DarkThoughts,

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/BallisticNG/
    Can't get any closer to Wipeout than that.

    Redout feels more like F-Zero imo. GRiP isn't anti gravity racer. Maybe more comparable to Extreme G. Reminds me of my old RC car though.

    DarkThoughts,

    It's not Wipeout, but BallisticNG might still be interesting for you.

    wryan,

    Man, I used to love futuristic racers when I was a kid. I put in some serious hours into the Xtreme G and the N64 version of Star Wars Podracer. Freaking Jetmoto... man, those were the days!

    simple,

    I’ve been aware of it for a while but never got around to playing it, thanks for the reminder!

    quicksand, w Fan Ports PlayStation Classic [WipeOut], Dares Sony To Shut Him Down And Make Its Own

    The one on the PSP was my favorite game for that console

    binbou, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

    I wish TF2 got the eSports treatment it deserved

    ezures,

    Honestly forcing competitive in tf2 was the worst thing to happen to it.

    Naz,

    I used to play Q2 competitively, so I’m a little opinionated:

    Not all games are eSports-ready, nor do they need to be.

    Why: eSports need to be fair. Everyone has to start at the same place, and the majority, if not all of the performance has to come from player skill.

    E.g: Imagine modern football where certain players running on the field could just randomly teleport or fly, but most can’t.

    Class-based (hero arena, etc) shooters are inherently unequal in the same way, because that’s the point of classes (e.g: Heavy having more HP than Scout, Spy being able to cloak and so on).

    If you’re about to make the argument that “TF2/OW/LOL/WTFBBQ” requires plenty of skill despite the abilities/imbalance: save it.

    There’s an enormous gulf between what the audience and casual players + enthusiasts perceive as being inside of an eSport and what’s actually going on mechanically on the top-level.

    Players optimize and engineer the fun out of a game.

    eSports players/pros engineer the game out of the game.

    ashenblood,

    Very strange argument. It seems like you’re bad at those games and created some elaborate theory to rationalize it. Class based games require just as much, if not more, skill than non-class based games. As the number of classes increases, the total amount of knowledge required and variety of techniques available also tends to increase.

    Professional players do optimize the fun out of a game, but that’s totally unrelated to the point you were trying to make.

    zalgotext,

    If you’re about to make the argument that “TF2/OW/LOL/WTFBBQ” requires plenty of skill despite the abilities/imbalance: save it.

    You know, normally this sort of statement would be followed up with some sort of rationale or explanation

    Syrc, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

    Good. Fuck Blizzard and their greedy, sexual assaulting, China-pandering asses.

    kippinitreal, w A new fan-made port of Wipeout can be played in a web browser

    What the tech for running it in browser? WebAssembly? On mobile so couldn’t inspect the website . (Also kinda lazy)

    NikkiNikkiNikki,
    @NikkiNikkiNikki@kbin.social avatar

    If it is in rust, then probably yes

    sznio,

    It’s good old C.

    simple,

    It is indeed Wasm, it’s become the standard for games on the browser unless the game is made in javascript (which would run poorly)

    skele_tron, w A new fan-made port of Wipeout can be played in a web browser

    This brings back some memories

    woelkchen, w Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands Are Now Handing Sony Free Wins
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    They could just remove split-screen entirely on Xbox and then Series S would run it just fine (that’s what they did on Steam Deck).

    yesterdayshero,
    @yesterdayshero@lemmy.world avatar

    Let’s say that’s something Microsoft would even allow, it diminishes the ability to compete with the PS5. Why would I get a Series X if there’s a chance that some big game launches will have less features than other current gen platforms?

    Microsoft really hamstrung this generation of consoles by releasing the S and demanding it runs feature parity with the X.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Let’s say that’s something Microsoft would even allow

    Games launch with different features between consoles all the time.

    it diminishes the ability to compete with the PS5.

    Not getting the games at all even more so.

    Why would I get a Series X if there’s a chance that some big game launches will have less features than other current gen platforms?

    Why would you get a Series X if games don’t launch at all because of Series S parity mandate?

    Nothing you wrote really is an argument for why launching BG3 without split screen on any Xbox is worse than not launching at all.

    yesterdayshero,
    @yesterdayshero@lemmy.world avatar

    Hey guys, you should get a Series X because BG3 is coming out. Sure it will be missing features that you’ll get on the PS5 like split screen, but you guys understand we need to support the Series S and have parity between our two consoles.

    So even though you spent more money on a Series X, that’s capable of running the full game that the PS5 is getting, you should just be happy that you’re getting the game at all. Don’t worry about having paid for a console that’s capable of more.

    -Microsoft

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Your comment makes zero sense. The decision not to release on Xbox at all is not Microsoft’s. It’s Larian who rather sacrifice an entire hardware base for a niche feature. You obviously didn’t read the article. It’s spelled out there.

    yesterdayshero,
    @yesterdayshero@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s literally in the title…

    Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands

    And in the article…

    While there would be some variance in technical capabilities between consoles, feature parity between the two would remain the same. It would remain the same because Microsoft would demand it remain the same, from both its own studios and third parties.

    woelkchen, (edited )
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s literally in the title…

    Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands

    Wow, I’m amazed on how bad you’re at grasping the basics of what I wrote.

    I 👏 DID 👏 NOT 👏 WRITE 👏 ABOUT 👏 CUTTING 👏 SPLIT SCREEN 👏 FROM 👏 SERIES S 👏 ONLY 👏 BUT 👏 ALL 👏 XBOX 👏 VARIANTS 👏 SO 👏 THE 👏 GAME 👏 CAN 👏 LAUNCH 👏 AND 👏 NOT 👏 LEAVE 👏 XBOX 👏 USERS 👏 IN 👏 THE 👏 RAIN!

    The article is about feature parity between Series S and Series X and not about how all Xbox variants can’t have feature disparity with PlayStation. If Larian were to cut split screen for all Xbox versions, the game could launch just fine.

    Really not that hard to understand.

    yesterdayshero,
    @yesterdayshero@lemmy.world avatar

    Where did Microsoft or Larian say that was an option? Where did Microsoft say that they would be happy to have features cut from the X to keep parity with the S?

    I pointed out how poor a business decision this would be if Microsoft would allow it. It ruins their offering for the Series X. How can it compete with the PS5 if they start allowing developers to drop features from Xbox games? The entire point of the article is that Microsoft has boxed themselves into this corner. And your suggestion isn’t a good solution.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Where did Microsoft or Larian say that was an option?

    That is an option because exclusive features come to one brand all the time. Everyone with even minor insight in video game business knows that.

    Where did Microsoft say that they would be happy to have features cut from the X to keep parity with the S?

    It’s not about happiness, it’s about what the rules allow and since there are exclusive features on other consoles all the time, it’s obviously allowed. That’s how the Spider-Man character ended up being exclusive on the PlayStation version of Marvel’s Avengers. Golden Eye 007 has online multiplayer exclusive to Nintendo Switch. Those are well-known facts and if you don’t know them: That’s on you.

    I pointed out how poor a business decision this would be if Microsoft would allow it. It ruins their offering for the Series X. How can it compete with the PS5 if they start allowing developers to drop features from Xbox games?

    Yeah, you’re such a great business genius, you think not launching a game at all is better than cutting a niche feature barely anyone cares about. Yes, you totally convinced me.

    I guess you gonna vote me down again because you cannot stomach that I’m right and you’re wrong.

    vrighter,

    xsx and xss have to have same features.

    xss can’t do split screen. it only needs to do split screen because the xsx can do it.

    If devs remove split screen from xsx, then xss would not need split screen, because xsx doesn’t have it either.

    Microsoft can only demand feature parity for their consoles, not sony’s

    Pika,
    @Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I think you are misreading, they are refusing to launch because of the feature parity but, that’s because they are consciously deciding that split screen is a hard requirement for the game to launch, whereas with other consoles(steam deck) they just removed split screen and called it good.

    conciselyverbose,

    They've explicitly told us that Microsoft won't let them have feature disparity between the two, and that that's the reason it isn't there.

    No one's speculating. We know that it's not there exactly because the S can't handle the most demanding feature of a moderately demanding game.

    woelkchen,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Can’t you read? I wrote about no split screen on all Xboxes, not to allow feature disparity between X and S.

    simple, w Baldur's Gate 3 is now the top rated game on Open Critic

    I wouldn’t expect that to last long though, a lot of reviewers still haven’t played enough of it to give it a rating so right now the sample size is pretty small. Even IGN hasn’t submitted their review yet, and usually they’re early. The game is just really big.

    vezrien,

    I agree with a lot of your post - but it started at 92, after a few days it was 95, then 2 weeks after release its 97. If anything, more reviews will mean a higher score.

    520,

    That assumes everyone is going to be rating it in the 90s, which is far from a guarantee even for games that absolutely deserve it. Especially when the cRPG genre isn't exactly an industry darling.

    Virkkunen,
    @Virkkunen@kbin.social avatar

    Do game journalists even rate things less than a 90 anyways?

    M0oP0o,
    @M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

    Depends on if the cheque clears.

    LucidNightmare,

    People downvoting you is fucking hilarious. I hate to break it to them, but both movie and game reviews were bought out quite some time ago. Watch gameplay, read multiple reviews not from the critics, but from real people who actually tried to enjoy the game instead of doing some mediocre checklist.

    M0oP0o,
    @M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

    I think if it was not the case we would have seen a lot more failing grades lately. I mean some of the titles did not even work on launch yet somehow 9/10?

    LucidNightmare,

    Exactly. The same critics they are desperately waiting for their approval are the same ones who will give a trash and micro transaction bloated piece of shit game over a 90, but then a well developed and labor of love below a 90 because the better game was indie and didn’t pay them for the review.

    Bluescluestoothpaste,

    I mean yeah dude and bg3 is a brilliant effing game you saying it doesn’t deserve great ratings?

    bionicjoey,

    Ign shouldn’t have much issue with it. There isn’t too much water

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    They get memed a lot about this, but I actually agree with that ORAS review. The water does hurt navigation for a huge chunk of the game.

    520, (edited )

    I also agree but for different reasons...

    For those that live under a rock, Pokémon heavily relies on a weakness/strength system based on 'types'. Both the Pokémon and individual moves have types. Hitting weaknesses will wreck faces, while hitting strengths is practically useless. This is an important preface to my point.

    In the regular land terrain, you can find Pokémon of pretty much all types, which forces you to change up your own Pokémon to adapt.

    In water terrain though, the Pokémon you'll find, both in the wild and on trainers, is 99% water as a main type, and it is here where we come across the real problem.

    Without any grinding, you can absolutely blitz through any challenges in those areas with a few reliable Electric or Grass types or even moves, to the point where it's just not fun to do.

    But at the same time, you have to go through these areas to progress, and the game heavily encourages you to use Pokémon/moves that hit weaknesses. It's been teaching you to do this the entire time. which means most players will experience the drag and not set their own fun to counteract this. That is a legit negative.

    dom,

    It really is bad design. I have no idea how it became a meme when the criticism is so obviously linked to this

    520, (edited )

    I think they just summed it up really badly. At the end of an IGN score, you've got compliments and criticisms at the bottom, summed up in short sentences.

    'over-reliance on Water Pokémon' or 'some routes are boringly easy' would both be infinitely better sentences than 'too much water', which on the face of it, and without context, does sound like a bullshit bullet point.

    dom,

    The “too much water” was intended to talk about too many water pokemon, as well as the poor navigation of water levels.

    To me, when people try to discredit ign because of “too much water” I immediately know their opinion is worthless because they didnt read the review and couldn’t piece together what the criticism was in the first place.

    Rayspekt,

    I'm out of the loop, can you fill me in on that to much water meme?

    520, (edited )

    'too much water' was a summary negative point in the IGN review of Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire games.

    On the face of it, that complaint sounds fucking ridiculous, but is actually very valid due to the way those games handle waterways; they are the only terrain filled almost entirely with a single Pokémon type, with all others having wide varieties.

    This makes large sections of the game a pathetically easy and boring breeze even by Pokémon standards; one reliable Electric or Grass type and you're set.

    However, that sentence was in the TL;DR bullet points of the review, which sounds fucking ridiculous without context.

    WarmSoda,

    I thought it came from thier review of Spider-Man?

    520,

    Nope, here's the Know Your Meme page (IGN itself no longer shows the pros/cons section)

    https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/866746-ign

    WarmSoda,

    Thanks, I learneded today

    Kbin_space_program,

    However, there are:
    • Jumping puzzles dependent on either high strength or specific spells.
    • Inventory management is critical, particularly grabbing a few emptied crates/chests/backpacks and dumping them into your personal storage chest so you can quickly sort.

    Both of those, based on previous reviews, make a decent score from IGN unlikely.

    HellAwaits,

    Imagine caring what IGN thinks.

    PerogiBoi, w Manic Miners: a LEGO Rock Raiders remake - Launch Trailer
    @PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

    This game fucking smacks

    MomoTimeToDie, w Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands Are Now Handing Sony Free Wins

    Yeah, the series s was a great decision in the short term, but was always going to create a lot of problems as the current generation progressed. Because while it kept consoles on shelves during the initial launch and chip shortage, and pulled in people who would ordinarily balk at the cost, the promise of next Gen support for the series s was always going to come back and bite Microsoft in the ass when more games started to push the consoles limits.

    In this regard, Sony was way smarter in just extending the ps4 lifespan since developers can just drop it any time without the existing user base feeling like the got scammed since the ps4 never had promises of running concurrent to the ps5 like the series s does.

    Arn_Thor, w Manic Miners: a LEGO Rock Raiders remake - Launch Trailer

    I have been waiting decades for this

    hal_5700X, w Baldur's Gate 3 is now the top rated game on Open Critic
    @hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

    Man, people do love the bear. jk

    FracturedEel,

    I’m playing a female tiefling and I was tempted just to see what all the fuss was about

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