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Diabolo96, w Paradox of Hope, a Metro-style VR game, has been removed from the Steam Store following a copyright claim

Bit fishy. Subway surfer is copy of temple rush. Angry birds a copy of crush the castle. All the breakout clones? If his game violate copyright then those games too.

CorrodedCranium, (edited )
@CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

I am wondering if the game advertised itself in anyway as inspired by the Metro series. I could see that causing potential issues but you are right. It does rapidly cascade if you take that approach.

The quote below is from an article with the author of the series and (TL:DR) they admit that they were inspired by the Fallout and Roadside Picnic.

I know Metro is a product of your environment, but I read earlier that you were inspired by the Fallout games…

Very much so by the first Fallout games. One of the sources of inspiration was Fallout 1 and 2, the isometric RPGs. And I was so inspired by Fallout when I was a student that once I went to cook my pasta and I was in such a hurry to get back to my desktop that I poured boiling spaghetti over my knees and luckily enough it was just inches away the most valuable thing that I have. That’s just to explain the extent of my passion for Fallout 2 back at the time. Also, not just that of course, but the books by the famous Soviet science fiction authors the Strugatsky brothers who wrote Roadside Picnic (Пикник на обочине), later adapted as Stalker and another work of theirs called The Doomed City (Град обреченный) which also has this incredible romanticism of abandoned urban spaces where you become the new master and you can explore the empty streets and empty buildings and everyone’s gone and you roam through empty apartments full of the belongings of other people. So this is something very romantic and very dreamy that can also be accounted for as an inspiration. And there’s some movies of course. There’s a very famous Soviet movie called The Letters of a Dead Man (Письма мёртвого человека), also about the post apocalypse. Altogether, that’s shaping your art references that inspire you. Then you build up on that and you become the inspiration for someone else and that’s how creative things work.

The Fallout games themselves were inspired by a multitude of works such as Mad Max, On the Beach, and A Boy and His Dog at the End of the World. There’s a PDF file out there that I believe was used during some kind of conference/convention talking in depth about this that I am struggling to find. It’s continued to do so throughout the series. I find this is most noticeable throughout Fallout New Vegas with many quest names and a chunk of dialogue referencing the material.


Kind of unrelated but interesting if you ever want to go down a rabbit hole you should check out how inspirational the book I Am Legend Is. It inspired The Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth and was incredibly significant in the creation of the zombie media going on to be the inspiration for Night of Living Dead.

Diabolo96,

While you comment and the books recommendation are very interesting, it still doesn’t explain why he had a copyright strike. By whom even ? The copyright infringement notice would certainly explain what he did wrong. I don’t think it’s gameplay related because if gameplay mechanics were copyrightable EA would’ve done that years ago. If it’s story, name related it wouldn’t be the first time someone is forced to change them because copyright. Unless, he provided some more explanations i would think he just got tired of working on the game and wanted an exit.

CorrodedCranium, (edited )
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I think he was intentionally pretty vague about that. Maybe out of fear of landing in hot water. I believe Deep Silver Embracer Group owns the rights to the Metro video games and it might be one of those fuzzy situations where they are (somewhat) overstepping what they can legally do because a small project can’t afford to fight back and they are striking down something that could potentially be competition for something they might attempt in the future. A similar example of the latter being Take-Two Interactive taking down a GTA 5 VR mod or the source port for GTA 3/VC for devices such as the Switch and PS Vita.

I don’t think they wanted an exit because the game was slowly gathering attention online in the year leading up to this. I think it’s mentioned in a few articles it was their primary source of income and I don’t know if they have any other projects on the go. I imagine by now Paradox of Hope’s discussion page would have been updated if they did.

Diabolo96,

The fear of landing in hot water argument is very probable although i never heard someone got in troubles for saying who gave the DMCA. For the GTA 5 VR and GTA VC ports, it’s understandable since it’s using copyrighted material. This is a new game that was inspired by older games, the takedown sets a dangerous precedent. Imagine if every silent hill inspired game was sent a DMCA…

CorrodedCranium,
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For the GTA 5 VR and GTA VC ports, it’s understandable since it’s using copyrighted material.

The GTA 3/VC port wasn’t using copyrighted material though. You still need to own a copy of the game and bring over your own data files. It’s similar to how OpenMW allows you to play TES 3: Morrowind on your phone. Nothing was being distributed on their end.

The GTA 5 VR mod was filed under a copyright not licensing claim so it doesn’t seem like it was about the creators making money. Likewise you still need to own a copy of the game. There are conversion tools that target a multitude of games with the goal of converting them into a VR experience that don’t, to my knowledge, receive legal threats. It’s just that this project targeted Take Two Interactive games (it also worked for Red Dead 2).

This is a new game that was inspired by older games, the takedown sets a dangerous precedent. Imagine if every silent hill inspired game was sent a DMCA…

I agree. I feel like a significant amount of the games I’ve played recently are very upfront about being inspired by Resident Evil, Wasteland, or the STALKER series. I hope it doesn’t become an annoying hurdle for indie developers.

Diabolo96, (edited )

If it was just an engine then the GTA 3 “port” is i believe legal. Just another company abusing it’s power.

As for GTA 5 VR, I know they can’t make any money of their work or they’d have something worse than a just a mere DMCA ( Nintendo made someone pay it half his income for life ) but I know the most devs are mostly doing it for the challenge and more importantly out of love for the game. As an exemple, here’s someone porting portal to the N64

CorrodedCranium,
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As for GTA 5 VR, I know they can’t make any money of their work or they’d have something worse than a just a mere DMCA ( Nintendo made someone pay it half his income for life ) but I know the most devs are mostly doing it for the challenge and more importantly out of love for the game. As an exemple, here’s someone porting portal to the N64

I think it’s the wording they used. A DMCA is one thing but skirting around a license is another thing and that’s not what Take Two went after.

I think it really depends on the company and what they think they can get away with in the fine print of the terms and conditions. It might be Nintendo as well who I believe at a time was going after game play videos.

I wonder if there is a court case in the US that talks about game modding in a similar way to the one that legitimized console modding?

Diabolo96,

It might be Nintendo as well who I believe at a time was going after game play videos.

Yes.

I wonder if there is a court case in the US that talks about game modding in a similar way to the one that legitimized console modding?

I am not from USA so i don’t know. I highly doubt it tho.

ezures, w What are some good funny games/mods out there?

Its a bit extreme, but crack-life for half-life. You know there are some people saying they get brain rot from memes? This is like the bottom of a sinkhole for your iq. Every sound is some random effect, the wortigons have afros, the headcrabs are British, your hud is in webdings, the soldiers speak in old tts and the smg has infinite fast firing grenade launcher.

Is a lot, and while you are lost in a word where nothing makes sense, you are losing your ass off. If that’s isn’t enough, there’s a standalone mod, that’s even stupider, even bigger, even more bizarre.

But it’s probably not for everyone, its very 2000 edgy humor, so if it’s not your thing, don’t force yourself with it (might wanna check some vids, Jolly has a good ones, but i think he deleted it some time ago).

azalty,
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paddirn, w Baldur's Gate 3's director hasn't completely ruled out DLC

I would love to see some GMing tools and the ability to do custom campaigns. Like I could imagine a group using BG3 to run an actual game of D&D in. It wouldn’t need to be incredibly complicated, just some sort of modular tiling and the ability to add objects/monsters, you don’t need dialogue (or keep it basic) or need to fuss with scripting or anything like that, just a basic scenario builder that’s easy enough for most GM’s to figure out. It’d still be more work than pen&paper, but a bit more approachable and it’d just look so beautiful.

SinkingLotus,
@SinkingLotus@lemmy.world avatar

I’d love a system like Neverwinter Nights 2 had. Giving us the ability to create custom campaigns.

Jakeroxs,

They had gm tools in divinity original sin 1 (I think? Maybe it was 2) didn’t ever get used afaik

sugar_in_your_tea,

They could also release a few campaigns that DMs could use to start from. That wouldn’t require much dev time aside from the DM tools (e.g. add a surprise if the team is doing to well in a battle, or hold back a surprise if they’re struggling).

I think a lot of people would buy story packs, even if there’s a way to make your own or get free community stories.

Spacemanspliff,

That’s what Neverwinter nights really was. Hell there are still people playing persistent world servers.

FooBarrington,

That would be cool, but WotC won’t let it happen. They want to own and monetize the digital tabletop, which they can’t do with BG3.

nekusoul, w What are some good funny games/mods out there?
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

When it comes to “classic” comedy, then Hi-Fi Rush is one of the highlights in recent times. Not only are there a lot of jokes in the dialogue that landed for me, all the cutscenes are also loaded with perfectly timed visual gags. Lots of humour hidden in the environment as well.

Other than that, any “serious” game that has a wonky physics engine can accidentally be pretty funny on accident. Slinging around corpses in Dark Souls 1 for example.

ChaoticEntropy, w What do you think is a good required completion time for video games? What examples come to mind of games that felt just right?
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Wholly dependent on the game. Lots of Indies feel like decent, self contained games ranging from 3-8 hours of gameplay. Gris, Inside, Abzu, Thomas Was Alone, etc.

Anonymousllama, w Baldur's Gate 3's director hasn't completely ruled out DLC

Seems like a no-brainer to have a custom campaign system given the number of people who’ve picked this one up. You think they’d want to capitalize on their success regardless of how tired they are

Duke_Nukem_1990,

I wonder if a campaign editor or even something more sophisticated ala Neverwinter Knights has simply not been green flagged by Wizards of the Coast.

over_clox, w What are some good funny games/mods out there?

Going back to legacy PC games from the 90s…

For adults that don’t mind blood, guts and cursing: Redneck Rampage

Something much more innocent for kids though: Mystic Towers

Kolanaki, w Baldur's Gate 3's director hasn't completely ruled out DLC
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While DLC would be welcome, I really want a toolset to make my own campaigns.

FoundTheVegan,
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I would too, but I get the feeling WotC might not allow that. They are hard core pushing their digital tabletop replacement with D&D beyond. A custom baulders for a flat fee would seriously eat in to their subscription model profits.

Which I'm all for! I'd definitely play custom BG campgains but I have no interest in paying $10 bucks a month for a Skype game or whatever.

Kolanaki,
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There have been digital tabletop tools that allow you to play any game for so long, that are free, I don’t see how they would ever really get anyone on board with a subscription service to do the same thing.

I use a couple myself with my group. They have some premium features like access to tilesets; but they also allow importing an image to use so it’s not like I feel compelled to subscribe.

Aqarius,

It’s what the point of the licensing mess a few months back was: to rope dnd-one away from third party VTTs

FoundTheVegan,
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Those free versions only exist because of the OGL, which WotC wanted to rein in. In part because of their own VTT being in development. This was also before WotC changed how they sold their books, now they are slanted to being part of a Beyond membership. While 3rd party seller still have a supply of books, the WotC main website is now only selling physical books as a bundle with a digital one for an up charge. Wizards is changing and is very much transitioning to prioritize their digital goods.

I mean this isn't just a wild conspiracy theroy, Wizards themselves said as much during an investor meeting.

Granixo, (edited ) w What are some good funny games/mods out there?
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Counter Strike 1.6 undeniably the best mod ever (for those who don’t know started as a Half-Life mod).

https://feddit.cl/pictrs/image/97c44273-8b55-40a3-b403-edcacb3169fe.jpeg

Now if you don’t have any friends to play with i would suggest CS: Condition Zero (Deleted Scenes)

It’s basically a single player campaign that, while it’s pretty rough on the edges, it still serves as a fun, single player diversion.

Disclaimer: if you get stuck on a mission just watch a Youtube walkthrough.

LucyLastic,

TIL Counterstrike is a comedy

Scrof, w What are some good funny games/mods out there?

The Dungeon Of Naheulbeuk: The Amulet Of Chaos

Endorkend, w Todd Howard says Starfield mod support is on the way next year
@Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

He just wants to give modders more time to fix the mess of bugs Bethesda left unresolved, before giving them an easy method to create new content.

Oneeightnine, w What are some good funny games/mods out there?
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The Stanley Parable, although it couldn’t be further from High on Life in terms of its comedy. Personally I don’t love the game but it’s absolutely hilarious.

CorrodedCranium,
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Fun fact: There’s a fan-made Unity port of the Stanley Parable for PS Vita

azalty,
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I tried the game and it really wasn’t a fun experience for me. It’s just an overpriced walking simulator with some not really funny dialog playing.

All I did was trying to find bugs because I wanted to uninstall after 30 mins, when I figured out it’s not just the start that is slow, it’s the entire “game”

Oneeightnine,
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I mean yeah, it’s absolutely that.

Kolanaki, w This Fallout New Vegas Mod rewrites over 1,000 functions to improve performance and reduce load/save times
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Man… if vanilla New Vegas is still giving you performance issues, you might wanna upgrade your toaster.

steersman2484,

If it brings me a few minutes more battery life on my steamdeck, it is worth it

Potatos_are_not_friends,

The achievement is less about the need, but more that someone did it.

I’d be equally excited if something optimized the shit out a PlayStation 1 game too.

Coelacanth,
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I mean, isn’t vanilla New Vegas pretty famously unoptimized? I think its performance has less to do with your hardware and more to do with the engine (hence this mod).

MaliciousKebab,

Todd, I didn’t know you were a Lemmy user.

GreenMario,

How much can upgrading a computer cost, $10?

– Todd “I haven’t had to buy my own groceries since Morrowind dropped” Howard.

Chailles,
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But I mean, this isn’t just for Vanilla New Vegas, is it? Plus New Vegas is known for being particularly unstable.

moosetwin,
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I would if I could

Psythik,

It absolutely does, though. Vanilla crashes all the time and has several game-breaking bugs. I don’t recommend that anyone plays New Vegas unmodded – especially on a newer machine that’ll be less compatible (like my 7700X + 4090 rig running Windows 11) – unless you just hate yourself. You need community patches to get it in a playable state.

Same goes for Fallout 3. It’s not nearly as buggy as NV, of course, but try running it Vanilla on a modern Windows 11 machine and let me know how well that goes for you lol. You get massive framerate dips and it literally crashes every 5 minutes on a brand new PC if you don’t install any mods to make it compatible.

Kolanaki,
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I mean I still play it on a modern system mostly unmodded (I do minor QOL mods like adding/moving fast travel points to limit loading screens but nothing super fancy or specifically for performance). Still on windows 10, though. I get no performance issues, though crashing is still a worry. It’s not like every 30 minutes tho, like when it was new 🤣

Psythik,

Still on Windows 10, though.

Well there you go. Win10 is old enough now to still be compatible with those games. But like I said, try it on a modern machine running 11.

That said, even in my Windows 7 days, NV still crashed all the time. The game had a rushed development; it’s a miracle that it runs at all on any PC.

thecrotch,

Windows 11 is essentially a skin and experience pack for win 10, in fact it was.originally going to be the nezt update to 10. very little has changed that will affect how games run.

Relo,

I played NV unmodded and hardly had any crashes in my +150 hours. All I did was to deactivate all but one CPU core iirc.

Atomic,

It’s not a toaster problem lol. Every time to enter a loading screen you pray the game doesn’t randomly crash

AceFuzzLord,

My toaster of a desktop can easily run the game at pretty good framerates yet the game just sometimes decided to just crash like it’s nobody’s business.

Hell, it ran it just fine before getting an upgrade from 4gb to something like 16gb of ram, but the problem wasn’t performance issues. Instead it was random crashing. Mods completely fixed that issue.

New Vegas is a pretty good game, but I wouldn’t wanna play it unmodded because I don’t wanna deal with random crashes.

revoopy,

Nah, with mods the lack of threading makes oblivion and fo:nv unplayable once you add on enough eye candy

FrankTheHealer,

The vanilla game is still Bella buggy, awesome, but hella buggy.

n3m37h,

Try playing F.E.A.R without the performance mod, a 5800x3d and 4090 will only get a studdery mess and that game is from 04

ArmoredThirteen, w This Fallout New Vegas Mod rewrites over 1,000 functions to improve performance and reduce load/save times

This article is talking about it like this is a new thing. It has been part of the core set of QoL mods for new installs for years now. Looks like they got a recent update though which is exciting

Edit: Didn’t look at the link just knew by name, looks like they released a new mod to compliment the one I’m talking about? This person is a fucking godsend

Coelacanth, (edited )
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They did indeed release a new engine optimization mod, separate to the standard mandatory-install Stewies Tweaks. The past year has been crazy for NV mods.

Destraight,

It’s new to me, because I barely mod my games

circuitfarmer, w Todd Howard says Starfield mod support is on the way next year
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The important shit is getting done already. The community isn’t going to wait for a toolkit.

And the things that toolkit likely allow aren’t really what modders want to change, anyway. I don’t think anyone wants to add quests, but fixing broken things seems to be the goal of the current mods.

thanevim,

What makes you think modders aren't interested in making quests? Have you seen Fusion City Rising for Fallout 4?

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I just meant that the game is really long as it is. I think QoL stuff is probably the focus before quests.

Chailles,
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Modders aren’t single minded collectives. A modder who wants to make a quest mod will make a quest regardless of the inconveniences a QoL mod they could have made would have fixed.

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