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Disgustoid, w Atari Announces Modernized 2600 Console (Releasing Nov 17th)

I’m an old dude who actually had the original Atari 2600 and 7800 as a kid and loved playing games on them. I finished Pitfall 2 FFS. Those games have exactly zero appeal to me today.

I’m not entirely sure who this new hardware is supposed to appeal to. Would Atari 2600 purists go for this given the price tag and emulated games?

McDuders, w Delta Force - Gameplay Trailer | gamescom 2023

My Dad still plays the original Delta Force to this day. I’d be surprised if anyone else has heard of this series before this trailer.

fartsparkles,

We’re not all teens on Lemmy lol. The Delta Force game engine was ground breaking at the time; it used voxels to render terrain meaning the draw distance was huge and enabled sniping each other over hundreds of meters (previously unheard of).

Sadly this new game doesn’t appear to carry the “tactical shooter” banner in the slightest.

You should spin up a co-op modded server and play a few missions with your dad to make his day.

FracturedEel,

I used to play a demo from a pc gamer magazine demo disc over and over but it was just like one mission

fartsparkles,

Sums up my PS1 days. Official PlayStation Magazine demo disks were pretty much all I played. The timed Resident Evil 2 demo (something like 10 minutes) was the ultimate challenge as I had convinced myself the whole game was there and I just had to speedrun my ass through it asap.

Good times.

lustrum, (edited ) w Alan Wake II - Official Trailer | gamescom 2023

Anyone else think trailers like this are just a waste of time? Literally learnt nothing.

Lojcs,

You learned the plot and graphics. What did you expect to learn?

MarcomachtKuchen,

I think its really Hard to Show more coherent stuff off without spoiling parts of the Story

Bonesince1997, w Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

“Luck be a Landlord is a roguelike deckbuilder about using a slot machine to earn rent money and defeat capitalism. This game does not contain any real-world currency gambling or microtransactions.”

For those curious about the game. Game details from Metacritic.

givesomefucks,

So it’s literally a slot machine simulator…

And the guy who made it doesn’t understand why it’s being taken down for gambling?

ironeagl,

So you think an FPS should be taken down for murder?

givesomefucks,

No because that’s not killing anyone.

But a slot machine simulator is still gambling even if it doesn’t really pay out.

So a slot machine simulator getting banned in countries that ban gambling makes perfect sense.

But the creator apparently thinks it’s because those countries just love capitalism so much…

I don’t know what’s hard to understand

ZombiFrancis,

Well the UAE for instance recently made a deal with a Las Vegas casino. Wynn Resorts.

Exceptions are made, clearly.

givesomefucks,

I googled that.

It’s set to open in 2027 because they’re confident by then it will be legal.

But it’s 2023 and it’s not legal. So sure, if in 2027 it’s legal and this mobile slot machine simulator is still banned, maybe it would matter

ZombiFrancis,

Really, Luck Be A Landlord just needs to call them ‘duty free luck draws’ or something. Or disguise the slots as horse races. Gambling is rampant in places like the UAE, it’s just gamed,(haw). So that’s all LBAL would need to do. I doubt it’s worth the effort for the sales in the countries banning it though.

ABCDE,

But it’s 2023 and it’s not legal. So sure, if in 2027 it’s legal and this mobile slot machine simulator is still banned, maybe it would matter

Except gambling on racing is legal.

Feathercrown,

Are you just trolling?

bogdugg,
@bogdugg@sh.itjust.works avatar

a slot machine simulator is still gambling even if it doesn’t really pay out

Uhh, no? That’s not what gambling is?

kmkz_ninja,

Didn’t you know that every choice you make throughout the day is gambling?

Poob,

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  • Cybersteel,
    @Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s gambling with your life man.

    Poob,

    See my previous comment

    hughperman,

    Every random number generator is gambling, dammit. Right down to quantum mechanics.

    PlzGivHugs,

    What about Vampire Survivors, as well as numerous other games, using spinners or other slot-machine-like animations to represent RPG drops? Should all of these games be banned for the same reason? If anything, many of these better re-create the slot machine experience with their flashy effects and more substantial results.

    givesomefucks,

    I’m not exactly up to date on mobile games…

    But if their primary gameplay is a slot machine simulator, then yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re also banned.

    Although people who play a lot of mobile games would explain the type of replies I’m getting. So it probably wasn’t intentional, but you did help, thanks!

    PlzGivHugs,

    These aren’t mobile games, they’re desktop games, and this isn’t anything new. These same themes and effects have been used for decades. As someone else points out, even the retro Mario games have you use spinners and slot machines. RNG is exciting and helps make a fun and engaging game. I mean, by that same logic, a game like Catan should be banned because one of its primary mechanics is just being rewarded for favorable dice rolls, as you would be when gambling on dice.

    Croquette,

    There is a metric fuckton of slot machine games on the playstore. This game, which isn’t gambling, is being limited while other slot machine games aren’t.

    It would be different if the policy was applied equally to other apps as well.

    ABCDE,

    But if their primary gameplay is a slot machine simulator, then yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re also banned.

    You’ve been told multiple times it is not.

    Feathercrown,

    LbaL is also on Steam btw, I played it there a few years ago

    pruwybn,
    @pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    In Super Mario Bros 2 you use a slot machine to get extra lives at the end of each level - I hope they’ve banned that game too.

    Guy_Fieris_Hair, (edited )

    FPS games aren’t actually killing anyone.

    And a slot machine simulator is not actually gambling. Gambling is the wagering of something of value (“the stakes”) on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted. (Wikipedia) . If you are not paying or receiving money you are not gambling. You are just playing a game.

    Homeschooled316,

    Present evidence that fake gambling causes real gambling. Not evidence that it actives dopamine receptors. Actual gambling.

    Fantasy and fiction don’t cause maladaptive behavior. One day society will accept that this is still true for audiovisual media, just as it had to be slowly accepted for music, just as it had to be slowly accepted for books.

    givesomefucks,

    This is like saying meteorologists who predict the rain cause it…

    hyperhopper,

    The fps isn’t killing anybody and spinning the wheels in luck be a landlord isn’t taking anybody’s money.

    Neither is bad.

    ABCDE,

    But a slot machine simulator is still gambling even if it doesn’t really pay out.

    u wot? It’s not a slot machine simulator either.

    steb,
    @steb@kbin.social avatar

    Similar to some countries banning games that depict skulls or blood, these countries have banned games that depict gambling. This is different from banning games that contain loot boxes or actual gambling.

    all-knight-party,
    @all-knight-party@kbin.cafe avatar

    Uh oh, looks like all the Borderlands games are illegal. Gearbox better watch out

    givesomefucks,

    Too bad lootboxes are banned in a lot of countries so you couldn’t make a closer analogy…

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    The only loot boxes in Borderlands are the actual boxes of loot you find in the game world playing the game like any other box of loot in an RPG. Unless there’s a new one I haven’t heard of that contains MTX loot boxes.

    Detheroth,

    Google “Borderlands Golden Keys”. Been in the game since BL2 and was causing a stink even back then. Sure there is nothing exclusive to the Golden Chests (that I know of), but they are a quintessential Lootbox.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    !deleted6508 avatar

    You mean the event exclusive shit you don’t actually have to pay for (outside of attending the events/seeing social media posts/the few that come with a DLC pack)?

    Per Gearbox’s official site for the game:

    How do I get Golden Keys? Golden Keys can only be unlocked by redeeming SHiFT codes. You can get SHiFT codes from official Gearbox sponsored events and social media accounts.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    The only loot boxes in Borderlands are the actual boxes of loot you find in the game world playing the game like any other box of loot in an RPG. Unless there’s a new one I haven’t heard of that contains MTX loot boxes.

    givesomefucks,

    Even for someone with a username made out of emojis…

    Come on man, you can’t be that stupid

    Edit:

    Nevermind, saw that post history. That’s what I get for being an optimist

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    !deleted6508 avatar

    It sounds like you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. Have you ever actually played any of the Borderlands games? Or are you like @Detheroth and considering the event/pre-order exclusive codes needed to unlock golden keys as a lootbox, despite them not actually selling them for money? FFS, you can cheat to obtain these things by just copying your save file, since they’re stored locally on your profile.

    If you had argued over the season pass shit, you’d have somewhat of a point, though not anything to do with gambling. But you decided to focus on lootboxes.

    ABCDE,

    For someone who calls everyone else stupid, you’re pretty damn ignorant yourself.

    p03locke,
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Anybody who has played the game will know how much of a dumbass take this is. It’s no more a “slot machine simulator” than Doom is a “military training simulator”.

    moosetwin,
    @moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    Star Fox has a secret level with a slot machine as a boss and the only way to beat it is to successfully get a jackpot. It’s as much of a gambling sim as this dude’s game is.

    Iunnrais,

    His is less gambling. In starfox, it’s purely random. In his game, you strategically select the symbols that can appear on the machine to make combos more or less likely.

    Iunnrais,

    It’s not even a slot machine simulator. It’s more like a deck builder card game with a slot machine theme.

    GuinnessChocolates, w Atari Announces Modernized 2600 Console (Releasing Nov 17th)

    Exclusive to USA? Get fucked

    geosoco,

    The website says international retailers are coming soon.

    mnemonicmonkeys, w Valve gives Steam Remote Play a long overdue upgrade

    I wonder how Valve pulled this off. Iirc, they had to reduce performance for remote play a couple years bag by switching to software acceleration when their license for hardware acceleration couldn’t be renewed

    Spudwart,

    Probably using VP9 or AV1 codec now and didn’t want to pay for HEVC.

    VP9 and AV1 are open codecs. and AV1 > H.265

    Kyoyeou,

    I’ve heard of AV1 but never of VP9

    nodiet,

    A few web services such as YouTube use VP9. It was developed by google to have a royalty-free alternative to HEVC.

    Norgur, w Nintendo Switch emulators Yuzu and Ryujinx can already run Red Dead Redemption on PC

    Yeah but... isn't that a hollow victory? I mean... every PC that can run RDR on Yuzu can... you know... run RDR natively, right?

    collectioncard,

    Red dead redemption never received a pc port.

    Norgur,

    oh... my bad. It has now I guess.

    collectioncard,

    Yeah… I really wish it did though. Kinda surprised that they decided not to port it alongside the switch and ps4.

    Pwnmode,

    They still didn’t release this port on PC. Unfortunately.

    forgotaboutlaye,

    Also Xenia Canary is a much better expierience than emulatoing Switch

    ziggurism,
    @ziggurism@lemmy.world avatar

    Is that a ps3 emulator?

    thewitchslayer,

    Xenia is Xbox 360. RPCS3 is PS3. And that can run it too, just not super well last I knew

    nodiet,

    What makes you say that? Last time I checked (about a year ago), yuzu and ryujinx were way more performant and fewer bugs in the emulated titles compared to Xenia (Canary). Have there been such big improvements to Xenia since?

    Kolanaki, w Mortal Kombat 1 - Story Trailer | gamescom 2023
    !deleted6508 avatar

    That is quite a change from the original story. I’m surprised. I figured it would be more or less the same, but maybe flip the characters around or change inconsequential shit, as most reboots tend to do. It did make Raiden a champion now, instead of an actual God/Protector. So that’s weird.

    aaronstc,

    They basically did what you’re talking about in 2011. The entire universe has been reset in the story.

    Sanctus,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    They did that in the last one. This looks like another reboot that has in universe reasons. Which means the old stuff still happened but due to the time stuff its happening again but different

    Supervisor194, w Atari 2600+ Announced
    @Supervisor194@lemmy.world avatar

    lol $29 for 2600 Berserk? Look, I’m all for nostalgia, but the 2600 wasn’t even a good game console on the day it was released. Why don’t they showcase any 7800 games? At least those are much more like real arcade games. 2600 Berserk isn’t worth 29 cents, much less dollars.

    p03locke, w Alan Wake II - Official Trailer | gamescom 2023
    @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Just a reminder than Alan Wake and Control are in the same universe. There was a really good DLC for Control that takes place after the events of Alan Wake.

    ADHDefy, w Streets of Rogue 2 - Official Reveal Trailer | gamescom 2023
    @ADHDefy@kbin.social avatar

    The first one is one of my favorite games. I cannot wait for this.

    zabby, w Killing Floor 3 - Official Reveal Trailer | gamescom 2023

    From what I’ve played Killing Floor 2 is at the top of my list when it comes to satisfying gunplay. The original was lots of fun too. As long as this one keeps up the quality, it seems like it is hard for them to fail, right?

    GreenMario, w Atari 2600+ Announced

    Curious if they use real hardware or emulation (read carts as Roms).

    Homeschooled316,

    The processor listed in the specs, Rockchip 3128 SOC, is a smart tv chip.

    GreenMario,

    Emulation then.

    roguetrick,

    It can use the original carts. My Atari and intellivision consoles still work, though.

    Taleya,

    Same here. Never modded mine though, still uhf lol

    roguetrick,

    Shit I still have the original mechanical switch and TV it's connected to.

    Taleya,

    Tv has updated (although i do still have a crt for missile command and scope on the ol’ snes) but yup, the punch-button switch with the wood and metal chassis is my baby!

    Tylerdurdon, w Atari 2600+ Announced

    Anyone able to get the list of compatible games?

    hydrashok, w Atari Announces Modernized 2600 Console (Releasing Nov 17th)

    Ordered and already excited. I still have a giant box of 2600 games and controllers and according to their site, it will all be compatible.

    Ready for the nostalgia overload when I fire up Pitfall.

    Schaedelbach,

    Be also ready for the realization of how barebones those games are. Played a couple of 2600 games with a friend and there is just a tiny amount of genuine fun to be had. And I am definitely not hating on simple old games! But most of the games we tried boiled down to “follow ball” with terrible controls. His collection might just have been bad, though.

    Nioxic,

    I havnt heard of any one mentioning any old atari games worth playing…

    I mean, only one i have personally played is space invaders… which was… not shit.

    thecrotch,

    River raid. And if you include 7800, the best version of joust.

    Buddahriffic, (edited )

    Game quality is what crashed the home video game industry between Atari’s decline and Nintendo’s rise. Not that all of the games were bad, there were just so many bad games out there that buying games became a gamble that disappointed more often than not.

    Nintendo improved on this by requiring games meet certain standards before they’d let someone release them for their system.

    Edit: fixed typo

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