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Goodeye8, do gaming w Video game company stock prices dip after Google introduces an AI world-generation tool

Anyone with investing money can make some free money courtesy of capitalism. The stock drop is guaranteed to go back up because AI world gen hype is all hype and no substance. If there’s going to be continued development of this model it’s going to eventually pivot away from gaming.

rollin,

Hey don’t be so quick to dismiss it! The article says that apparently Elon Musk has promised “Real-time, high-quality shows and video games at scale, customized to the individual, next year.”

Next year man! He promised it!! It’s gonna be like, just any game you dream of will be instantly created, exactly matching what you imagined and with fantastic world-building and beautifully complex interwoven story-lines!!! It’s gonna be amazing bro!!!!

Kwakigra, do gaming w Video game company stock prices dip after Google introduces an AI world-generation tool
@Kwakigra@beehaw.org avatar

If Google had released an AI skinner-box geneation tool, publicly traded video game companies would all collapse over night.

mrnobody, do games w Linux Gaming Developers Join Forces To Form the Open Gaming Collective

Gaming on Linux has already come a long way over recent years, with improvements to Valve’s Proton and more gamers switching to Linux, but the newly-formed Open Gaming Collective (OGC) is aiming to take it even further.

Universal Blue, developer of the gaming-focused Linux distribution Bazzite, announced on Wednesday that its helping to form the OGC with several other groups, which will collaborate on improvements to the Linux gaming ecosystem and “centralize efforts around critical components like kernel patches, input tooling, and essential gaming packages such as gamescope.”

The other founding members of the OGC include Nobara, ChimeraOS, Playtron, Fyra Labs, PikaOS, ShadowBlip, and Asus Linux. Related


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</span><span style="color:#323232;">I spent a year on Linux and forgot to miss Windows
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Having a wide range of distros to choose from is one of the best parts of using Linux, but shared efforts around important gaming components should improve the experience across the board, resulting in “better hardware compatibility, fewer duplicated efforts, and a more unified Linux gaming experience.” As Bazzite’s announcement post puts it, “a win for one project becomes a win for everyone.”

It’s worth noting that this will mean some changes to Bazzite, which is switching to the OGC kernel, replacing HHD with InputPlumber as its input framework, and integrating features like RGB and fan control into the Steam UI. Bazzite also added that, “We’ll be sharing patches we’ve made to various Valve packages with the OGC and attempting to upstream everything we can."

tyler, (edited )

Wonder why CachyOS isn’t in the group.

Edit: wonder no more. gamingonlinux.com/…/cachyos-founder-explains-why-…

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

I’m surprised Valve isn’t a member either

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Valve has done more for Linux gaming than all of these people put together.

polotype,

“These people who just got together to build something built less than a billion dollar company”

How unexpected !

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They are a billion dollar company because they made decisions like these over the last several decades. They could have gone the easy route and make decisions that fuck over the consumer, and make billions of dollars in more insidious ways, but they didn’t.

Steam Deck and their commitment to Proton are the reason why we can even have a conversation like this, talking about the rise of Linux Gaming in the year of our lord 2026. Without those two components, we would still be talking about how Windows 11 is fucking us over (while still using it), how nobody likes to switch to Linux because they still want to play games, how the whole “Year of the Linux Desktop” is the same tired fucking joke it’s been for the last 30 years.

Instead, we’re in the timeline where we have enough Linux gaming developers to form their own fucking collective! Because of Valve!

polotype,

Oh, i’m not shitting on valve, they did great things for linux. I’m simply saying that it’s a bit early to criticize the OGC ;)

Bakkoda,

They don’t need to be imo. They can still cooperate and have discourse but Valve should be the pace setter while they have this momentum. Should at anytime Valve ever choose the dark side there can be an alternative that’s hopefully keeping up ala this.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Isn’t Cachy a more general distribution?

But luckily everything they do is in the open and can be utilised by everyone.

Katana314,

Sure, you could say that, but Windows is also a general distribution. Much as people say they’d like a “Gaming OS”, it should be usable for everything else too. Bazzite wasn’t necessarily “incapable” of the other things I tried to do with it, but the UI remained a bit obtuse.

tyler,

They’re an “optimized for gaming and high speed workloads” distribution as far as I understand. Lots of customizations to GPU drivers and what not for games.

tyler,

Looks like they answered why already!

gamingonlinux.com/…/cachyos-founder-explains-why-…

justsquigglez, do gaming w Video game company stock prices dip after Google introduces an AI world-generation tool
@justsquigglez@leminal.space avatar

I ain’t subscribing to the fuckin Verge to read about AI.

Definitely another depressing update in the world of AI though. The thought of abandoning the Internet as a whole is looking more and more appealing as time goes on.

lofuw, do games w Linux Gaming Developers Join Forces To Form the Open Gaming Collective

I’m gonna OGC right now.

maxie, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

Companies like meta and Amazon can’t be trusted with gaming, it’s just a silly side project to them. If I was working at a studio acquired by either I would be shit scared for the studios longevity.

bytesonbike,

Microsoft too.

They flip flop over if gaming is important to them all the time.

bytesonbike,

I remember when Amazon went all-in on gaming. Everyone was skeptical, and they partnered up with so many Asian companies.

Then they pulled out. Then they pulled back in. And now they’re kinda in a weird place.

sukhmel,

What did they make?

orochi02,

New world and Amazon Luna (maybe im getting the names Mixed up)

sukhmel,

Yeah, I eventually found a Wikipedia page about Amazon Game Studios, they still exist and make games, and it looks like they only make mediocre stuff even when they have chances to make something interesting (like King of Meat, that seems to be a well received game, but has awful name, is too pricey, and is almost unknown, making the online too small)

ParlimentOfDoom, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

Oh look, that completely predictable outcome of an obviously stupid fucking idea, that people still felt the need to argue with me about so many years ago despite it being obviously doomed for failure.

Can Facebook unsteal the name now?

BreadstickNinja,

I’ve always appreciated that they stole the name from Snow Crash. Like Zuck completely unironically named his company after a technological dystopian hellscape infected with a virus that destroys people’s brains. Honestly, I don’t think there’s a better name for Facebook.

tacosanonymous,

Did he say he named it for that? Bc I can totally believe he has no idea what Snow Crash is.

BreadstickNinja,

I mean, Neal Stephenson coined the term “metaverse” to reference a virtual world not limited to gaming but to all kinds of business and commerce and social interactions.

Zuck’s concept for the metaverse was basically the same thing. I’d be surprised if the connection wasn’t intentional.

Alcoholicorn,

completely predictable outcome of an obviously stupid fucking idea

Nah, it could have worked if Meta started by

  1. sell the hardware to businesses and schools at a loss, with a requirement users be able to take the sets home.
  2. Publish standards to allow all apps to have multiplayer and compatible full body avatars, same control scheme, movement, etc.
  3. buying up VRChat and any other apps with a large user base, refactoring them for compatibility.
  4. Develop and release free multiuser apps, from virtual office/meetings to virtual movies to home decor.

Somehow FB didn’t even try to exploit the same effects that forced everyone into Apple, MS, and FB.

To be clear, its for the best, the end result of FB giving out millions of headsets at a loss would have been making even more money selling much more precise user data, and virtual nikes and shit.

ParlimentOfDoom,

No. The entire concept is just dumb. Adding less efficient means of doing things isn’t a selling point.

echodot,

Clearly the idea isn’t done because there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.

Alcoholicorn,

there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.

What do you mean?

echodot,

ChatVR, RecRoom, Roblox, BattleBit, Project Loom (Which Google killed for no reason, but it wasn’t because of lack of success), and of course the OG, Second Life.

Hell you could even make the arguement for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen if they ever finish it.

Some of those projects haven’t just been successful they’re so successful that they are starting to affect government policy.

Alcoholicorn,

How have they affected government policy, beyond Roblox probably causing some laws being passed about exploitation and protection of minors?

You have a point, I think the big thing FB failed to capitalize on is that someone who wants to use ChatVR or Roblox has to go into chatVR or roblox. FB had an opportunity to build an entire ecosystem they control, and they failed to get anyone inside of it.

I genuinely have no idea how they managed to spend that much money and not get a single decent app. Horizons literally looked like a tech demo someone slapped together for a gamejam or something.

ParlimentOfDoom,

You’re just listing random games, none of which are remotely related to the metaverse…

echodot,

Do you even know what we’re talking about? Have you ever played any of those games, they are very much in the style of what meta where trying to do.

If you took Meta’s description of what the “Metaverse” is and then looked at chatVR it’s basically the same product.

ParlimentOfDoom,

Yes I have. And they all act as independent games, not the centralized hub for all work and play “ready player one” style that meta was pitching this whole things as. Those non meta products being semi successful games doesn’t mean the overarching master plan for the metaverse was ever feasible, or even desired. Facebook didn’t have a good game to tout in the end, let alone the rest of it. Despite the billions they spent on whatever the fuck they spent it on.

It really seems YOU don’t know what we’re talking about.

Alcoholicorn,

The real selling point would be that everyone else is using it and you need to use it to interact with them, same with FB. How many people are still forced to maintain a FB account to talk to their boomer relatives?

ParlimentOfDoom,

Except no one is using it because it’s dumb. You need to get people there first before that longevity matters.

frog_brawler,

Wait, hold up, are you telling me that you knew no one would want to wear a headset to join a 90’s style AOL chat room?

FellowEnt,

~40000 people playing VRChat right now FYI.

Natanael,

Because it has legs

BroBot9000, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing of value was lost

MurrayL,

Fuck off, sincerely. It’s hard enough out there for game devs as it is without heartless idiots online celebrating the demise of their studios.

Also, obviously, fuck Meta for closing them.

BroBot9000,
@BroBot9000@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll celebrate every aspect of the scam that is Metaverse and the oculus rift dying off.

Like any other studio bought by a big corporation this is the inevitable outcome and I wish the best for the employees that had no say in the matter.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

The metaverse was always going to be a flop.

I get why devs jumped in, for that sweet Facebook cash injection.

But, gotta be realists here. It was always going to fail, and it was easy free money until that point.

superglue,

Always. Buying hardware from Facebook just feels gross to a lot of people, even those that dont even really care about privacy.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

It's not like Meta just shut down some random game studios. They chose to get into bed with Meta. This was the most predictable outcome.

bytesonbike,

My brother in arms, my heart goes to you. I know it sucks.

Never fall in love with your work, ever. Metaverse and VR has always been a neat niche piece of tech.

As a dev, make the thing for that money, and always be ready to jump ship.

echodot,

My man what are you on they sold out to Meta, they 100% knew what they were getting into, and have been well compensated for it.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

That’s probably a lot of lost jobs.

TehWorld,

But also 100% predictable. Sad, but not unexpected.

For reference, I could absolutely take a job in the next couple weeks with a $50k signing bonus where I get to shoot people in the face with impunity, but I also know that the Nuremberg Trials were a thing. Also, I’m not a horrible human.

Etterra,

I expect that everyone there has seen this coming for ages now.

melsaskca, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.

I bought a Quest 3s about a year ago and am an old school, single-player gamer. Meta sure tried hard to get me to socialize and meet “friends” while VR’ing but I was never interested. Also, because of the whole surveillance layer built into new tech I worry about my interior spatial domicile information being exposed. Not that there is a big secret in a house floor plan but I just don’t like people sneakily looking at my shit.

sexy_peach,
@sexy_peach@feddit.org avatar

I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.

Sure but I fear that they all feel so important that they won’t use it.

melsaskca,

Sigh…I agree.

urandom, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

To what are they gonna rename the company now?

TheColonel,

SLOP

bytesonbike, (edited )

Meta is now SLOP:

  • Social media
  • Large Learning Models
  • Online Engagement
  • Pedo support

I’m Mark Zuckerfuck and I suck.

TheColonel,

I was thinking of spelling out the acronym but hilariously, Pedo (defense, support, porn, or something) was 1000% what I was going to use for P!

ElectricWaterfall,

AI

TigerAce, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

All 3 users will be angry

bytesonbike,

I’m actually kinda angry. There was a lot of money being thrown at this metaverse thing, and I wanted to milk that sweet Facebook money for as long as I can.

echodot,

I mean there’s always be vrchat, Which is basically what meta was trained to do but actually works.

titanicx,

Actually one of them was supernatural. And that is a massive community there is some massive blowback going with regards to that. My significant other being one of those people so I’ve heard a lot about it over the last 24 hours seeing all the posts seen post from all the coaches that were involved that have gotten laid off and just one of the communities on Facebook is somewhere in the neighborhood of 170,000 people.

TigerAce,

Yeah but on the plus side, Zuckerberg will have less underage girls to groom

titanicx,

Um. Not really sure what that has to do with this. But yes?

SaharaMaleikuhm, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

You’d think they would lose a lot of money making all those shit investments, but then America is the upside down and nothing makes sense over there.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a bug in our simulation. If you’re poor and you lose a little money, you go bankrupt. But if you’re rich and you burn a fuckton of money, you can buffer overflow into richness and go back on top.

UnspecificGravity, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

Who cares about billions of dollars wasted on the last profitless scheme when there is a whole new profitless scheme to dumb money into? Line goes up!

bytesonbike,

I want cloud gamified LLM GenAI NFT Cryptocurrency Neural network IoT Web3 Metaverse!

skooma_king, do games w Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

So, they were still throwing tons of resources into this years after it flopped?

Zorsith,

“Flop”, to me, implies some sort of jump. “Metaverse” just kinda rolled off the edge of a cliff immediately, like a dog shitting on a frozen hill.

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