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Omega_Jimes, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

I like the idea that they approached Sony about making a Horizon game but Sony said no and they were like "Oh, well, this game is coming out…

Blackmist, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

That is Aldi levels of copying right there.

FunnyUsername,
@FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

i hope this is a compliment because i love Aldi’s take on foods

NigelFrobisher, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

They’re mad because they wanted to do that first by releasing Ubisoft style annual instalments.

DeusUmbra, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

Whaaaat? A Chinese company making a knock-off of another product? You don’t say.

TheOctonaut,

abduct Chinese paper makers, imprison them, steal the technology

sneak into China, impersonate religious figures, hide silkworms on your person, sell to a Roman emperor

sail into China, pretend to be a botanist. Steal tea and grow it in your starving colonies instead of food

“Why don’t China care about western patents and copyright?”

DeusUmbra,

Good ole “what aboutism”

TheOctonaut,

We used to just call that “pointing out hypocrisy” before Americans found a thought terminating phrase for it

MellowYellow13,

Only US is allowed to invade other countries and steal what it wants

DeusUmbra,

No, pointing out hypocrisy would be going “hey, didn’t you also blatantly rip off a popular product? Isn’t it hypocritical for you to criticize them for something you also have done?” What Aboutism is defined as: “the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented.” www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism

TheOctonaut,

And, as always, it is in the sealion’s power to determine what is the same, and what is “different but related”.

Arf arf arf

DeusUmbra,

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  • TheOctonaut,

    It’s not redirecting the conversation to respond to your statement that whataboutism is when the hypocrisy is “unrelated”. Which conveniently lets you decide what is related or unrelated.

    Do you not consider Russians human?

    DeusUmbra,

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  • abbotsbury,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    yikes, cool it with the dehumanization honey, it’s not a good look

    DeusUmbra,

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  • abbotsbury,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    Listen to how they talk about Ukrainians

    Oh, they wouldn’t happen to be calling them orks now, would they? That would be terrible.

    Judging an ethnic group by their non-democratic government is prejudice, you are prejudiced. Now please continue to justify your racism like everyone else before you.

    DeusUmbra,

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  • abbotsbury,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    sure jan

    makeshiftreaper,

    You’re citing examples from the 6th, 4th, and 18th centuries and arguably the last one isn’t even about intellectual property

    Even ignoring the blatant “what aboutism” if your justification for why it’s ok to steal video game ideas is because some Byzantians were mean to you 1400 years ago just know that nobody is going to take you seriously

    TheOctonaut,

    If you think that historical context doesnt inform culture, you must be an American, in possession of neither.

    DeusUmbra,

    So, you’re saying that it is the Chinese culture to steal from others because they were stolen from? That sounds racist as hell.

    TheOctonaut,

    No, but this might shock you, other countries have different definitions of what theft is. Theft is taking something from someone.

    The funny part being that it is literally enshrined in American law that game mechanics can’t be copyrighted, so its not even in the definition of theft in America either.

    prole,

    I mean… this guy does have a point.

    DeusUmbra,

    Game mechanics can be Patented in the US, just look at the Nemesis system.

    Also, just because a country decides that their definition of a thing is different than everyone else’s, doesn’t make it correct. Just look at Russia, they have so many different forms of lying to justify lying in everyday life, but that doesn’t make corruption OK.

    On top of that, you were the one who defended this fairly blatant plagiarism by pointing to examples of theft.

    CatDogL0ver, (edited )

    What are you talking about? Is this a bot?

    DeusUmbra,

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  • TheOctonaut,

    “Issues with westerners” is an odd choice given that I’m Irish but ok.

    It’s not my job to comfort American fragility. Genocide enablers are fair targets in all situations.

    Goodeye8,

    Genocide enablers are fair targets in all situations.

    So what's your issue with people going after China? After all it's fair game because China is also a genocide enabler.

    TheOctonaut,

    I have no issue with people going after China. I’m not a hexbear/ml stooge. It is possible for two things to be bad. It is possible for something about a bad entity to be neutral or at least unsurprising. Which is how I would describe China’s lack of real interest in engaging with, from their perspective, the global order’s new fad interest in intellectual property rights.

    Goodeye8,

    Then you should've made that argument instead of arguing that it's justified because centuries ago something was stolen from them.

    But I'm not sure how you got the impression China has no interest in engaging with the IP rights when last year they filed more IPs than anyone else in the world.

    TheOctonaut,

    Explained is not the same as justified.

    I would have thought this was obvious but forcing your rivals to abide by their own rules while flouting them yourself is not an endorsement of those rules, it’s a mockery of them.

    Goodeye8,

    Explaining means you actually explain your point instead of throwing out random examples of others doing something similar and then mockingly asking "I wonder why they wouldn't care".

    You also seem to be moving the goal post with every post. You said China doesn't care to engage in IP fad, I showed China absolutely does engage in it. Now you're saying of course they do because they flount the rules themselves. Actually they don't. A few years ago Beijing IP court decided a Chinese artist had to pay around half a million to a Belgian artist for plagiarizing his work. I guess you're about to find another excuse to shift the goal post once again.

    TheOctonaut,

    You think I’m going to shift the goalposts for one example? Ok, yeah that definitely overrules literally decades of behaviour. You win. Here’s your Internet reward for the best argument. ⭐️

    Goodeye8,

    You mean decades of behavior of which you so far haven't presented even a single one. Guess what, one example is better than 0 examples.

    TheOctonaut,

    You want examples of Chinese companies disregarding copyright? Uh.

    www.aliexpress.com? Or, yknow, the actual article we’re commenting on?

    Goodeye8,

    I was expecting something where the Chinese IP courts rule in favor of breaking IP laws or at the very least turn a blind eye. This current article doesn't count because there's no resolution here. As for AliExpress, they have an entire process in place to handle IP infringement and they actually ban sellers off the platform if they continue infringing.

    DeusUmbra,

    So, wait, Namco are Genocide enablers? Since when?

    Also, my guy, I’ve met plenty of Tankies in my life, it’s not uncommon to see a westerner that hates westerners.

    CatDogL0ver,

    So many bots nowadays on Reddit. I won’t be surprised we have bots here

    _cryptagion, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

    I might be convinced to care just a small, tiny, minuscule amount if it was an indie game. But a corporation like Sony? They can get fucked hard and often with a chainsaw, for all I care.

    Outwit1294, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

    They are Chinese, what did you expect?

    hal_5700X, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit
    CatDogL0ver, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit

    Sony is that petty.

    Sony is suing a game dev because their name is “Naughty Cat” which, according to Sony , infringes on Sony studio “Naughty Dog.”

    MentalEdge, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit
    @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Oh wow that is A LOT more similar than I was thinking.

    zecg, do games w Sony calls Tencent game ‘slavish clone’ of Horizon in new lawsuit
    @zecg@lemmy.world avatar

    Loved Horizon, so I clicked on an open world gameplay trailer and it’s just survivalslop, fiddling with some shit-producing hovels to get them upgraded to shit+1-producing hovels and hitting trees until they’re planks.

    FeelzGoodMan420, do games w How Nintendo locked down the Switch 2’s USB-C port and broke third-party docking

    Imagine posting an article on Lemmy that requires a subscription. Unbelievable.

    Alphane_Moon, (edited )
    @Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world avatar

    The country where I live has this article available for free (other articles from the site do require a subscription, albeit they are labelled as such).

    I normally post archive.is copies for subscription articles, I thought this was in open access.

    null,

    Go take a walk.

    szymon,

    Imagine not paying for work of journalists

    Instead you get technological fox news

    ms_lane,

    THIS is technological fox news though.

    90% of the article is wrong - it’s just dogpiling for clicks on ‘controversial topic’ It’s the Faux News playbook to a tee.

    szymon,

    Oh thanks, I wasn’t familiar with them,

    redsand, do gaming w Nintendo’s Zelda movie has found its princess and hero of time [Bo Bragason and Benjamin Evan]

    Weirder choices than Mario. She looks like she could take his lunch money.

    Patch,

    That’s pretty lore accurate, though, right?

    Most Links are portrayed as being either kids/teenagers or very young-looking adults, and Zelda is often portrayed as being a more experienced character, still young but often already embroiled in the politics or conflicts that are core to the story’s initial setup. Link usually shows character growth as he rises to the challenge, but Zelda is often a more static character, who starts the story fully fledged.

    I’ve never heard of either actor, but a cursory Google to look at their various photos and I can see them working in the roles. Obviously assuming they can act, too.

    redsand,

    Usually they reincarnate to be about the same age. Zelda does tend to be in leadership because she always reincarnates as the princess but link is always physically much stronger. Also his face is weirdly round for the character but that’s my own artsy opinion based on the main 3D games.

    theangriestbird, do gaming w Nintendo’s Zelda movie has found its princess and hero of time [Bo Bragason and Benjamin Evan]

    boooo typical nintendo casting L. They could have cast Hunter Schafer, the literal perfect Princess Zelda. I mean… look at her!!!

    https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/00087bd7-59c3-48e9-83d7-19dfd9b4f588.jpeg

    Kit,

    I was crossing my fingers for Hunter Schafer, but the casting they chose looks pretty decent. They’re a bit younger than I expected but I guess it’s lore accurate.

    thingsiplay,

    One should not make the mistake to just judge a single photograph, for a role in a film. Its also important how they move and talk, and what the perception of the person based on existing films is. I’m not in the position to judge about any of these castings or your suggestion, just wanted bring in this point into the discussion.

    Doom,
    @Doom@ttrpg.network avatar

    Y’all are weird as fuck about this casting I don’t like it.

    HappyFrog,

    People have different preferences. It would be nicer to say “I don’t see it, I don’t think she would fit,” instead of “y’all are weird as fuck…” that’s kind of rude and weird to say.

    Doom,
    @Doom@ttrpg.network avatar

    No I think it’s weird. I’m not trying to be nice I’m trying to say this sentiment on the Internet has crossed a line

    t3rmit3,

    How so? What exactly about people proposing this actress do you have a problem with?

    I’d like to give you the benefit of the doubt that your intentions are good, but you’re being awfully evasive about what your actual objection is.

    Doom,
    @Doom@ttrpg.network avatar

    look at her

    🤢

    Vodulas,

    I’m going to give coyotino the benefit of the doubt here and say that meant “Look at her, she already looks like Zelda” just based on the previous sentence

    t3rmit3,

    My Spidey sense is tingling hard with this one.

    Vodulas,

    Yeah, mine too

    t3rmit3,

    Is this a criticism of the quote, or a response to it?

    Once again, you’re not actually just stating your issue, and your responses are ambiguous enough that they could be interpreted either as an objection to people treating Hunter Schafer in a way that you perceive as negative, or an objection to Hunter Schafer.

    Megaman_EXE, do gaming w Nintendo’s Zelda movie has found its princess and hero of time [Bo Bragason and Benjamin Evan]

    Live action seems like such a weird choice for this

    tatterdemalion, do gaming w Nintendo’s Zelda movie has found its princess and hero of time [Bo Bragason and Benjamin Evan]
    @tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

    Wait is there actually a Zelda movie happening? I feel like I’ve heard of intentions to make a Zelda movie for 20 years.

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