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k0e3, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

Oh no.

Anyway.

PanArab, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide
@PanArab@lemm.ee avatar

Even though I stopped buying new games on Xbox for sometime now, numerous reasons to boycott Microsoft I’m sure you have yours too. There is still probably another Xbox console or two in my life due to the over 300 game digital library I have accumulated over three generations due to Xbox Live Gold and Microsoft Rewards.

Scotty_Trees, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide
@Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world avatar

I still use my Xbox One to play some Battlefield games. But I’m never buying a new console ever again. Fuck Microsfot. Fuck Sony. And you know what Nintendo fuck you too. Price gouging, greedy fucks the lot of them. PC+emulators is now the way to go, fuck all these greedy companies.

t_berium,
@t_berium@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately greed is rampant in the PC market, too.

MorningThunder,

Wait till you find out about Nvidia and AMD

Appoxo, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fuck the US for inflicting this on the rest of the world.
At least the ones that voted the orange guy.

TankovayaDiviziya, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide
Adulated_Aspersion, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

PC Linux Sales

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I didnt know Linux manufactured solid controllers. Can you link me one? /s

Like for real: Xbox Controllers are actually good.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Playstation controllers have more features though, and arguably better Linux support.

PraiseTheSoup,

Said features are mostly gimmicks, and quite frankly the symmetrical stick placement is uncomfortable and outdated by nearly 20 years. Even my $40 8bitdo controller I use for my Switch feels more premium than a $80 PS5 controller. In every other case be it PC, android, or Xbox I am going with the Xbox controller.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Idk, gyro aiming is pretty sweet.

I’m also not a fan of the symmetrical sticks, but it doesn’t bother me a ton, and having gyro aiming as an option is a big value add. I definitely don’t pay full price though, I’ll only pick it up on sale.

AnimalsDream,

I prefer the symmetrical sticks, calling it outdated is just cult of inevitable progress vibes. Also the touchpad is hardly a gimmick when we’re talking about PC as a gaming platform. If anything a touchpad should become standard on all controllers.

My biggest complaints with the dualsense controller is that the shape of it starts to feel uncomfortable after long game sessions, the ds4 was better. Also the dpad sucks.

demonsword,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

and quite frankly the symmetrical stick placement is uncomfortable and outdated by nearly 20 years

sorry but I have to disagree, it’s so much more comfortable than the mismatched sticks other controllers have

fuck Sony BTW, they patented said symmetrical stick placement and the world is worse off because of this

Jakeroxs,

Wish I could agree, but the consistently broken bumpers really irritate me.

I have gone through probably 20ish Xbox controllers, the 360 controllers were the most durable (except the stick rubber bit) whereas the core and series controllers and even my elite 2 controllers have all had the bumpers break or otherwise stop functioning.

I replaces the bumpers several times manually, then with the elite 2 they changed the design but now it breaks at the actual button instead of the flimsy plastic piece like on the core/series controllers.

Luckily putting some ISO on the button and throughly cleaning it along with sticking a small piece of paper near the actuator seems to have fixed it for several months.

I would love a solid controller with Xbox style layout (particularly the thumbsticks) replaceable sticks and 4 back paddles. I think the Playstation TouchPad would also be a welcome addition for PC navigation or steam input mapping.

PraiseTheSoup,

20 controllers bro you have a problem and it’s not the controllers. My original Xbox 360 controllers from 2006 still work. My original Xbox one controller still works. My series x launch controller from 2020 still works. And I play dark souls. You have some other issues to sort out.

Jakeroxs,

I blame Skyrim/Fallout and Dark Souls/ER, so much bumper pressing in those games.

I also use them A LOT, even being a PC gamer lol if it supports controller, that’s how I’m playing it.

I do think where I comfortably press it probably has to do with it.

If you think I’m like throwing them around or doing crazy stuff like that, I don’t haha.

Edit: If you look online, it’s very common for the bumpers to fail

cabb,

You’ve probably tried this but in case you haven’t: try putting isopropyl alcohol in the gaps around the bumpers, it can clean the contacts and make the bumpers work again.

But yeah I’ve also has a ton of first party xbox controllers fail on me, although usually its the left stick or right trigger (I mostly play rocket league which abuses both) and was mostly the xbox one controllers so I’ve switched to more durable 3rd party controllers.

Jakeroxs,

Ha yeah, that’s how I got the elites functional again, took it apart and did it directly at the button, so far so good after several months.

The Xbox one/core controllers though it was usually part of the thin plastic bit that connects the bumpers (it’s all one piece for some reason…)

IEatDaGoat,

8bitdo controllers are fucking amazing.

Liberal_Ghost,

Fact. Thats all I use now. Just ordered another one today lol

BlameTheAntifa,

It’s all I use now. They are so good.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So are the vastly more affordable 8BitDo controllers!

OhVenus_Baby, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

ARGGGGHH ya filthy vermin 😂 Fuck your subscriptions. 10tb checking in.

lustyargonian, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

Steam can’t release a “console” soon enough.

OutlierBlue,

Thousands of them already exist. They’re called PCs.

SupraMario,

Millions you mean.

Hundreds of millions.

j0ester,

And if you want that SteamOS experience; Bazzite and ChimeraOS is nice

lustyargonian,

There’s some nuance.

  • One of the bigger issues about PC gaming these days is the shader compilation stutter. Valve is able to precompile and upload these for SteamDeck, so a fixed hardware “console” from them will solve this problem too.
  • SteamDeck is pretty weak but games are still sort of optimised for it. Same would be true for such a console, making devs focus on a target platform directly.
  • Assembling PC yourself can have its own issues. You may not get all the ROPs, or a new Windows update may break your games, or you may occasionally update drivers to make a game more playable without black screens, or wouldn’t turn on with a controller when set up as a “console”. I’m not saying it isn’t doable, but there is an audience for consoles who would love whatever SteamDeck has done for handheld but in console form, and may not want to bother with setting everything up. Valve can disrupt that
AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

You can connect the deck to your tv if you want a “console” experience.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I did that at my friends place: Worked very good. Screen was turned off and connected my xbox controller.

Minor nitpick: If it’s connected via a powered dock they should circumvent the battery.

lustyargonian,

It ain’t powerful enough for modern titles sadly. I’m trying to say that there’s a space where Valve made steam machine with niceties of SteamOS and power of say PS5 can really thrive.

commander,

I think it’ll happen soon. Tariffs threw a wrench in everyone’s plan but Strix Halo currently exists. Ryzen 395+ is in minipc’s now and should give a solid ~PS5 level experience that should come down in price over time as AMD releases successor generations. At least now could be cheaper with Valve putting somethings out with razor thin margins expecting to get return from software sales

AnimalsDream,

The tariff situation makes it a bad idea to release or even announce new hardware right now. What they should do is finish Steam OS so they can officially release it for all platforms.

chunes, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

Old games are better anyway. Covid knocks off two IQ points every time you catch it, and it shows in the quality of software these days.

NastyNative, do gaming w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide
@NastyNative@mander.xyz avatar

From the creators of paying extra to play online now bring us a more expensive xbox and games that no one bought and a monthly subscription to a mediocre library with games being pulled off monthly.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited ) do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

Thank you so fucking much Nintendo for upping the standard and the everyone else falling in line because consoomers didn’t scoff at all and sold out pre-orders

Katana314,

Valve hasn’t gotten the memo yet. Someone email them again?

Noodle07,

No no no no someone stop them !

13igTyme,

I think it was actually publishers like EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, and Activision that started the price increase. For big titles they started raising them to $70 a year or two ago, then to 80. I think I remember Diablo 4 launching for $80, or so.

I only know this because I refuse to buy from these publishers.

fluckx, do gaming w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

That’s one way to try and shift your audience to your game pass subscription I guess.

ReakDuck,

Or to an altetnative? Or do you think users are forced/hooked because of habits and comfort of not relearning

fluckx,

Sorry I don’t fully understand your question. Forced/hooked on what exactly?

The Xbox eco system?

Switching between consoles is a costly switch which will likely not pay off the price hike. That is assuming the competitor you’re switching to also doesn’t do a price hike shortly after you decide to switch.

They can switch to games from other publishers or other platforms ( e.g.: Nvidia ) instead of gamepass. But that would depend if the game is on there to begin with ( which is also an argument against game pass ). If all your friends are playing cod or Minecraft there isn’t really an alternative to switch to either.

Switching from Windows to Linux is ‘harder’ because people think it’s all terminals and magic and difficult. It generally isn’t nowadays. But there isn’t an initial cost to that. You don’t need to buy new hardware, there’s just a learning curve which doesn’t have to be that steep. But I have a technical background so could be biassed on that.

People can still buy games second hand or through the various discount websites I suppose. But I suppose you’ll still feel the price hike there as well. 10% off on a 60 or 80€ game is still the difference between paying 54 and 72.

Note: I actually didn’t read the article, but only the headline. So I could be completely beside the point.

Hyphlosion, (edited ) do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

Weren’t consoles supposed to be the cheaper, more convenient option?

samus12345,
BBQuicktime,

They were until an orange bitch started a trade war. Now everything is going to be too expensive, consoles and PCs alike.

pulido,

To be fair, the trade war was going on long before trump enacted tariffs.

If you ever saw someone spreading FUD about Huawei or Tiktok, it’s because they’re peddling rhetoric put there by our rulers to stoke the fires.

PraiseTheSoup,

I mean, barring Nintendo, they still are and will continue to be as long as you don’t need to have games on day one. I very rarely spend more than $20 on Xbox games. Most AAA games go on sale within the first few months. $70 Ubisoft titles will literally be $15 a month after release, not that Ubisoft makes much worth buying these days but it was just an example. The digital storefronts (again, not Nintendo) have sales constantly, you just need a little impulse control.

Manifish_Destiny, do gaming w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

Oh no. Guess I’ll have to continue to use steam and GOG.

mesamunefire,

Good combo.

unknown1234_5, do games w Microsoft is raising prices on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games worldwide

if anyone was looking for a good time to switch to PC, it's now. some stuff will be harder but you'll have steam sales and control over your own device (more than a console anyway, if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft).

ximtor,

if your running windows you’ll still have to put up with Microsoft

Luckily, there is another choice. Linux runs pretty smooth and has gotten much simpler to use over the years.

unknown1234_5,

that's what I was implying I switched back in August

samus12345,

All hail Proton!

Palerider,
@Palerider@feddit.uk avatar

Yeah, I’ve been an xnbox user since 360 but I don’t think I’ll stick with another console.

I’ve been looking at handheld PC`s…

unknown1234_5,

personally I prefer a laptop over a handheld but those should work decent too

cyberpunk007,

Plus steam deck is pretty solid.

Jyrdano,

I have Win11 at work and its frustrating as hell. Definitely switching over to linux when I decide to buy a new pc

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