Hogwarts Legacy: To be fair it is a big Openworld but it doesn’t catch me. The Story is kind of lame the voice sounds a little bit too Much like a crappy TTS. I tried to finish it but I always stop after like 30minutes played.
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt I dislike that the Openworld is like a movie. You don’t need to think where you want to go, you just follow the little dots on your minimap until your are there. Its so utterly boring. I love the souls franchise, you see an NPC, walk up to her talk to her and write the important things down on your Notepad. To be fair, Wircher 3 looks absolutely beautiful after the recent patch.
Edit: I really really dislike Fortnite. Its highly overrated and it isn’t even original.
you can disable all the guides in the Witcher and play it without any gps or handholding. Combine that with the highest difficulty where you actually have to prepare yourself with potions and you have a great experience.
I also couldn’t get into the witcher 3, I think it had been over hyped to me. I found the combat a bit clunky and the story didn’t grab me. I got as far as the undead foetus mission with the baron, and sort of never came back to it
ditto rdr2 - its less a video game than it is a graphic novel read by a semi-literate slow talker
the entire dark souls series is also ruined by clunky controls. give me a Doom, Quake, Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament, Skyrim, etc . . . fps controls pls.
X4 fails because of its controls too. Imagine making a flight sim where you can’t invert the Y axis, or an FPS where the shift key can’t be bound to sprint.
Also, everybody started the round the same, and it was your skill, knowledge of the map etc. Which made the difference, not if you had unlocked some better scopes or weapons
I mean, the no build mode is ok. The concept of building a fort and defending it Left 4 Dead style, if done right, could be endlessly fun with friends. Each wave would require repairs and more sophisticated builds to take on tougher mobs. But yeah, what Fortnite became never drove me to play it unless friends asked me to.
Save the World is very fun. I also got fortnite the day it came out on XBox and loved save the world. When they shut that down, I never played fortnite again… until i saw they brought back save the world and I’ve been playing regularly lately.
Spring engine based RTS games have been the best for a long time. I remember being similarly excited when I started playing Balanced Annihilation, which is the OG Spring based RTS, over ten years ago. BAR seems closely related to BA but has much more impressive looking graphics. Enjoy!
Yeah another big Spring Engine fan checking in here, the development of the Spring RTS engine and games on it has been a long road with lots of fun games played along it, mostly in Total Annihilation derivative games like BA, AA, XTA I forgot the other acronyms… and playing a TA-like game was what brought me like many others to playing games on the Spring Engine….
We wanted to play more RTS games like Total Annihilation but other than Supreme Commander FAF no game companies really seemed interested in doing anything but copying StarCraft (ughhh) or doing something totally different like Company Of Heroes. As a TA fan it felt like the RTS genre cut off its own head by treating StarCraft like it was this perfect RTS that demanded everyone copy it and I NEVER liked it. I liked TA with huge battles, the enormous amount of units with different roles not different gimmicks, the actual modeling of unit’s projectiles not some calculated MMO-like damage exchange, the fact that aircraft actually flew not just hovered, artillery had super long ranges like artillery should and battlefields could be as large and sprawling as my computer could handle.
I hadn’t checked in for awhile, but when I tried out BAR for the first time it got me really hyped again. BAR is so polished and well made and at this point just by virtue of being a TA-like Spring Engine mod there are years and years of tweaks, additions and subtractions to the TA formula that have been hammered out through thousands and thousands of games and many different mods with different ideas of what made TA good. The end result is a REALLY solid TA-like game that has the benefit of years of knowledge gleaned from tinkering with the formula of TA. This isn’t just a clone of TA, it is TA with 10+ years more of development work focused around gameplay balance and fun.
BAR is awesome! The AI got really good too at some point?
I would really consider it a deckbuilder first and anything else second. Obviously yes it has the roguelike elements, but the gameplay is so different from almost any other roguelike. If you like the idea but couldn’t go for the totally card based gameplay, maybe try Inscryption or Hand of Fate.
Visual novels. I haven’t tried many but as a fan of steins gate series, I didn’t find the visual novel fun. Maybe because they were so outdated or because I already know the story but when I played it, I was thinking it would be more fun to just watch as media or watch someone else play while I have my lunch.
It makes sense, but I highly suggest to try and see visual novels as reading material with mixed media (e.g. music). Many are very mid, but some do excel: Higurashi and Umineko are a great example of that.
any 3d Zelda games. I didn't play OOT until I was in my late 20s and it was awful (specifically controls and camera). I tried watching people Speedrun it or do the randomizer, but the sound link makes when rolling (which most did most of the time) drove me crazy. BotW seemed like something I would like on paper, but Nintendo just had to work their new controls into some shrines and I found it frustrating. Also didn't like the breaking weapons. Link Between Worlds (神様のトライフォース ２) sits in a weird place. I mostly liked it, but hated the gimmicky 3d bits on the 3DS.
goldeneye for the same reasons - felt like a step backward and I had no nostalgia for it, playing it for the first time in my 30s.
anything with the N64 controller for the same reasons. It felt so unnatural and weird.
most roguelikes (but not all). Losing to random chance is annoying. Some randomness is of course fine
dark souls and the like. Watch boss. Die. Try again. Die. To me, that's boring. I'd rather have in-world ways of learning about the boss.
pokemon. I was already in high school, working part time, and doing a lot of school stuff (band/theatre/sports) and just never got into it. I tried Pokemon go and didn't care for it (but did like Dragon Quest Walk that came out later)
Final Fantasy 7 -- hated the camera and other similar things. Story and all was fine
Most 3rd person shooters (with the exception of Just Cause). I would line up the perfect shot in Sniper Elite only to shoot the few pixels of the corner of something I couldn't see because my character's dumb body was in the way
starfox. I was already playing better games like that on Amiga and other platforms, so it felt like a step back to me
I know it’s kind of an unpopular thread, but geez, those are widely considered some of the greatest games. It seems like you’re a bit older than I was when I played most of those, and I wonder if my youth made me enjoy those games more than they deserved.
Yep. I think my age (I'm in my mid-40s) and being an adult when I played them or they came out has a lot to do with it. I think having less free time and a number of issues I deal with makes it harder to enjoy certain types of games (this is not to say young people don't face their own stresses and issues!)
I’m so glad someone else feels the same way I do about OoT. I could go on for hours about how Nintendo ruined their franchise with cheap gimmicky 3D at the time, and that damned controller.
I’m not so on board with the rest, being a massive dark souls fan myself, but diversity makes us stronger and all that, you do you.
I think any game you grew up with gets a nostalgia level assigned to it and it's easy to overlook certain flaws. For me, OoT felt like a step back, but I had been playing PC and Amiga games lot (I hated Starfox for this same reason). I'm sure I have the nostalgia glasses for some games, but I'm old enough that I think many wouldn't even know them, hah.
Exactly, lttp was perfection and we already had decent 3d with mouse and keyboard controls on PC, it was a major step back. I guess that was just Nintendo nintendoing what Nintendo nintendoes.
I remember showing Ocarina to my dad and excitedly telling him it’s the peak of gaming and nothing would ever beat it’s graphics! Think I completed the game in 26hrs non-stop without sleep.
I’ve seen it since and it’s so blocky I struggle to see how I ever liked it. So I will appreciate the memories instead. :)
The N64 controller is my favourite ever controller. Bizarre shape but I had so many hours racked up on it in my teens that it holds a special place in my heart.
Which Roguelikes do you like? I’m the same - hate them all for being overly difficult. Except original ADOM which I played constantly.
I think "rogue-lite" or something like that is a better term for what I like. I'm currently playing "Against the Storm" is one a coworker recommended recently and I'm enjoying so far. Spelunky 2 was OK. There are probably a couple other's I'm not remembering at the moment.
I tend to agree about the souls like games, especially from soft ones. There have been some I’ve enjoyed (I devoured remnant and remnant 2), but most often they just feel clunky and slow to me. Not “hard” just annoying.
Why would I play them if I’m not interested in the whole Star Wars world? I’ve watched a couple of movies, didn’t like them too much and didn’t watch the rest, so the games are automatically also not interesting.
For example, that's like saying you don't think you'll like the Dark Knight, because you don't like comic books and without ever having watched it. I'm not saying the Dark Knight is a particularly good movie, but it being part of a certain extended universe, having a particular setting, isn't necessarily relevant to whether you'll like it.
In a lot of genre stuff(westerns, scifi, fantasy, etc.), you'll have stories which aren't actually about a fictional future, but about the present or past. Often they'll rework them into science fiction stories, just like how a similar story would have been reworked into a western when those were popular.
For example, Red Dead Redemption could have been turned into a Star Wars game quite easily.
Hell, in the past acclaimed directors like Tarkovski made science fiction movies, so they could fly under the radar with subversive stories, exactly because critics underestimated the story they were telling because it was 'just science fiction'.
TLDR: don't judge a book by its cover.
This being said, I get why you wouldn't bother trying if you disliked much of the Star Wars you have seen.
I hated Shadow of Mordor when I got it. It was Linux native so I had to try it. Played past the return time so it sat in my library for a while. Got bored and tried it again. Didn’t really care for the story but the gameplay was awesome. I have SoW to try, but no real motivation currently
Well tbh I’ve heard a lot about the gameplay in Shadow of Mordor being great, so I played it when it was temporarily free on Steam. The gameplay didn’t feel like anything special so combined with the world I disliked, I didn’t last long in it.
May I ask why you dislike the world? Is it LotR in general, or just what they did to the lore in those games?
Because I do enjoy those games, and I’m a fan of Tolkien as well, so I can definitely understand why someone wouldn’t care for the Shadow games due to what the devs/writers did with Shelob and Sauron
Honestly, for some reason, I just strongly dislike everything set in the medieval fantasy setting. I tried watching Game of Thrones and dropped it because of that, I didn’t watch too much of Harry Porter or LotR, never played Skyrim for the same reason. I know I’m missing out on a giant chunk of cool media that’s great and interesting but I just can’t bear this time period + magic. Unfortunately.
I might try something that’s incredibly good and super popular but I probably won’t like it in the end, even if I’m coming in with no prejudices against the world.
As a big Outer Wilds fan, is there any other game in the genre you like better?
I believe Outer Wilds is one of the best games ever made, because it’s the best execution of it’s genre (exploration / mystery games). I accept the genre might not be for everyone, but I’m not aware any better games in the genre.
GTA V - I disliked the characters, story was uninteresting, and gameplay felt like a downgrade from GTA IV; graphics were the main attraction there, and that’s not enough for me
Borderlands - my fastest “nope, not for me” game I’ve played; I don’t like loot in games, and that’s basically the entire point of the game
Skyrim - found it very bland coming from Morrowind; side quests weren’t as interesting, which is pretty much the entire reason I liked Morrowind
any competitive FPS (Apex Legends, COD, etc) - I play most games once the get the story, mechanics, etc
What about loot do you not like? I don’t mind random loot to a degree, but I’m not a big fan of games where you have to wait for a drop with max stats or whatever. Give me a loot pool with randomizations if you want, but no random stats (e.g., if it has fire that always means the same amount of bonus, or whatever)
TL;DR - I’m a fan of tighter, focused experiences with a strong element of puzzle solving, and I’m generally not a fan of sandbox-y experiences.
Some of my favorite games are Zelda, Ys, or Half Life. Loot in those games is typically an intentional part of the progression, and the gameplay feels like an action-y puzzle. Resources have a specific purpose, and wasting them has consequences.
Using a slightly different weapon, item, cosmetic, etc doesn’t excite me at all, I am mostly there for the story and gameplay. To me, shopping feels like poor game design and essentially covering for the player missing something important. So games with extensive store/inventory mechanics feel poorly designed, on average.
There’s one big exception here: if the economy of the game is integral to the core loop. For example, I love Recettear, which makes loot and inventory management a core mechanic in an interesting way. I’m also working on my own game with a player-driven economy (e.g. if you sell a lot of something, you get less for each additional one, it’s cheaper for AI/other players to buy, and NPCs will slowly distribute the items around the game world).
On those same lines, I generally don’t like things with crafting, enchanting, etc, unless it’s an interesting, core gameplay mechanic. I’m very goal oriented, so the journey is less important than the destination, so I like constant “mini-destinations” (boss fights, puzzles, etc). I almost never replay games, unless there’s a different set of challenges to explore (e.g. I loved each of the three characters in Ys Origin, but won’t bother playing Morrowind twice).
Yeah, I’m not a fan of loot that offers incremental benefit, but I do enjoy loot that offers a meaningfully different way to engage with the game (be that a new ability in a metroidvania or some new weapon in a soulslike)
Yup, I love the ability-based progression in Zelda, older Ys, Metroidvanias like Ori and Hollow Knight, etc.
I don’t like loot for the sake of loot. For example, Borderlands prides itself on having 16-17M weapons (they’re procedurally generated). That’s not interesting to me, that’s tedious. I much prefer the Half-Life approach (14 in original, 10 in Half Life 2), where each weapon fills a niche and you pick based on what you need.
A lot of people love loot in games, such as in MMORPGs, Bethesda-style RPGs, and Diablo-style RPGs. The latter is the most frustrating because many people mean Diablo-style when they say “ARPG,” whereas I mean Zelda/Ys-style.
I’ve never been a fan of the direction the Fallout series took after Fallout 2. FO Tactics and BoS aside, Bethesda’s handling of Fallout 3 and onwards really didn’t resonate with me.
As someone who enjoyed the story and RPG aspects of the earlier games, the shift to fast-paced shooter mechanics was off-putting.
Back in the day, getting my ass handed to me in Quake III, Half-Life, and Unreal Tournament wasn’t exactly a barrel of laughs, just something to endure. Discovering turn-based combat where I could strategize and plan my moves, rather than relying on quick reflexes, made me actually enjoy gaming. The shift away from that gameplay style made the series lose its appeal for me.
I think there are two age groups of Fallout players. Those who started with the original games, and those who started with Fallut 3.
I’m young enough to have started with 3. I did go back and play the original two, and I absolutely see what you mean. New Vegas was somewhat better, despite still being a shooter, probably owing to the fact that it was written and designed by the remnants of the people who worked at Interplay when they made Fallout.
Haven’t played it. I tried 3, and played through 4. But from what I’ve seen anything released from 2004 onwards is purely action role playing.
Researching my original comment (yes, I’m a professional overthinker) I stumbled upon the wasteland series. It seems that the original fallout was based on this series, and that it still has proper turn based combat.
I was really excited for “open world dark souls”, but I feel like this turned out to be a bad combination. The difficulty is all over the place, so you fight enemies that are really strong (which is fine), but then other areas become completely trivial as a result.
And with how many bosses they put into the game, the quality of each individual fight suffered immensely imo. I think the bosses in previous games were just a lot better designed (on average, there are of course stinkers in Souls games and good ones in Elden Ring).
There’s also a ton of gank bosses, which is just lazy. You could use the summons, of course, and it almost feels like a lot of the difficulty was designed around players having that extra strength, but at the same time, the enemy AI and movesets are designed around fighting a single person, so it breaks the combat.
All around, it was just a huge disappointment for me personally, and I uninstalled it right after I beat it, whereas I have hundreds of hours in DS3.
Fromsoft had to fix a security vulnerability in all their games that got advertised in the final months before release. All Fromsoft games went offline for like a year and it really short circuited how Elden Ring got finished.
Souls games are particularly crafted series of levels. That kind of gameplay has to either be condensed in between stretches of empty, or spread out thinly over a large area.
Elden Ring has some condensed areas with good classic Souls level feel, but they’re often quite short. There is also a lot of very empty areas with little to no significance. A lot of the game feels like placeholder content that had cancelled plans.
Hell yeah, love BAR. The discord group slowly started falling apart as we all fell out of love with SC2 but we’re back to regular matches every night now that they’ve been getting converted to it.
I am more of an AoE or SC2 style RTS player, as opposed to the Supreme Commander/Planetary Annihilation/BAR style but BAR really just makes RTS feel so good it doesn’t matter.
At their best, the originals were about a hyper-competent adventurer who always had a plan and was unapologetically confident. She was like Xena and Indiana Jones combined.
It was already a pretty tired cliche at the time to make a gritty origin story when the first game came out. We got an uncertain, untrained, and unprepared Lara with a whimpering attitude.
By the third game they tried to act on the feedback about this, but instead of something closer to the original, she became Rambo, covering herself in mud, hiding in the shadows, stealth killing hordes of enemy soldiers.
I think the Uncharted series did what Tomb Raider remake series should have done.
The enemy ai in those games was so bad that i couldn’t get into them. Especially after coming off of playing the last of us. That game ruined a lot of other games for me. Lol
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