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BleatingZombie, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Pretty much any competitive online game. It’s not that I don’t like competing. I just feel bad for the others if I win and I feel bad for losing if I lose

1984,
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I think you don’t like competing actually. And it’s fine.

hyperhearse, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Final Fantasy VII, honestly. And it's not like I haven't tried to like it but it's just not that good to me. I'm a long time FF fan and I have played all but XI, but VII misses me. The music is bomb, for sure, and I love a few of the characters.

It's also talked about SO much by so many in the gaming community and I'm really just tired of hearing about it. I wish Square gave this level of love and attention to some of their other FF titles.

Glide,

I was “meh” about the original, but the remake was genuinely amazing.

hyperhearse,
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See, I played through some of the remake and it was pretty cool for the most part, I just can't make myself finish it. But I LOVE Crisis Core. I guess I'm the oddball out here.

Kolanaki, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Most of the fads and AAA big sellers, really.

TLOU - Great story, don’t get me wrong; probably some of the best writing in games for it’s time. But the gameplay got super boring once every concept was introduced. The loop is just not satisfying, and exploration is more or less go check out the dead end before moving on, because the level design is so linear. This is more or less the same problem I have with most big AAA titles; they look great, have a good story, but are just so incredibly boring to play. You can tell the budget went entirely into graphics and voice acting, because the game itself feels more like an afterthought to those; it’s just there because otherwise it would be a movie.

Lethal Company - The game itself is pretty shit and tedious. What makes it fun is not the game, but how voice chat sounds when someone is being chased or getting eaten. 100% a game made for Twitch streamers where more people will be entertained by watching others play than playing themselves.

Palworld - I was interested by “Pokemon with Guns” and then I found out it’s more like Rust with Pokemon. I hate Rust and Ark all those kinds of survival PvP games. The genre itself has all the same weird jank, like everyone who has been copying the idea from DayZ or the like also copied every bug and bad idea, too; even the AAA made ones! They usually run like shit, are balanced like shit, and get so stale alone and are super frustrating in multiplayer unless you’re playing with a large group of friends so you’re not just being singled out for being all alone.

GTA:O - Specifically the online portion of GTA5 has made me never want to buy another GTA or rockstar game period. Not because the game play itself sucks, but rather because it’s extremely fun but the game doesn’t want you to have fun if you’re also making money. I can spend hours and hours doing all the activities that don’t earn you cash and have not one single issue other than maybe some other players trying to blow me up (especially if they are modding). But once that Mission Rep meter starts going up, hoo boy… The game starts breaking in all sorts of interesting but frustrating ways. Headshots stop killing in one hit, traffic starts behaving erratically and non-sensically (like straight sliding sideways at light speed to force a collision), triggers start breaking, the server decides to go down or get super laggy, etc. Since none of this happens in single player or while not doing activities that reward cash, and there is no other obvious function of the Mission Rep stat, I can’t help but think these are actually features put into the game on purpose specifically to slow down grinding so people will buy Shark Cards. The same kinda shit happens in RDR2:O, too.

Rai,

I’m not far enough into paltopialand to really say, but at the beginning and five hours in, it runs at 142FPS and never drops *at max settings. Its performance is really remarkable for an early game.

I’ve never played Rust or Ark.

Kolanaki,
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To clarify here: It’s not really the game specifically; I just know it’s the latest example of the type of game and super popular atm. It might be the best game of that genre; I still don’t like the genre itself, which is why I’m not getting Palworld.

inlandempire, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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I don’t dislike it, it’s brilliant, the epitome of SupergiantGames’ beautiful craft, but I just can’t play Hades, it released after I had already burnt out on Dead Cells, Curse of the Dead Gods, Grime, Enter the Gungeon, Blasphemous, Gunfire Reborn, and whatnot, I can’t bring myself to play it because I had already explored the genre so many times…

goombakid, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Ocarina of Time. It’s one of the few Zelda games that I just didn’t enjoy. I’ve had a lot more fun playing Twilight Princess and Wind Waker more than Ocarina. I’d play Adventure of Link more than Ocarina.

Skyrim. Mostly all the RPGs like that. Never understood the hype. I did try to like it, but it wasn’t fun for me at all.

brsrklf,

About Ocarina of Time : same.

And that’s weird, I really love the series as a whole. OoT feels way too bland to me and… I don’t know, I can’t stand its characters, its boring empty environments (plain, ranch and lake for example), its overwhelmingly grey colour palette.

Majora’s Mask’s one of my favourites though. But yeah, I’d rather replay a Link to the Past or any of the other 3D games over OoT.

Sabin10,

OOT is ok but most people that played wind waker or twilight princess first will have a hard time getting into it. Most 5th gen games have aged pretty poorly and need a solid dose of nostalgia to fully enjoy.

jacksilver,

Yeah N64 and PS1 just have this element of jank from the transition to 3D. While a great time for games, none of them have aged as gracefully as the 32-bit games from the previous era.

w2tpmf, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

KOTAR

After growing up with Star Wars games like X-Wing/TIE Fighter, Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, Shadows of the Empire… The whole choose your own adventure text game was a really lame step down.

So many people say it’s the pinnacle of SW games and I just see it as a game that could have been made for Commador 64 that has has some cut scenes added over it.

avater,
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So many people say it’s the pinnacle of SW games

nah Jedi Knight 2 was the pinnacle of SW games and maybe the second Battlefront.

Kolanaki,
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I want Disney to rethink removing Kyle Katarn from the canon because I hella wanna see a show or movie following him, if not another awesome FPS where I can be him. Kyle and Dash Rendar (another video game protagonist) are my favorite SW characters.

trslim,

Hell yeah, Kyle Katarn is the baddest mfer in the star wars universe.

prunerye, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Minecraft. It desperately needs some QoL improvements for it to be anything but tedious.

simple,

That’s what mods are for, most of the game’s popularity is built around the community and not the vanilla game itself

memo,
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Do you have anything to suggest? Me and a friend would like to re-dive into minecraft as a cozy co-op experience but we both have some experience with it from 2010-2018 and the new stuff that came out the last few years just don’t look that convincing.

I’ve seen modpacks mentioned, but there’s so many I don’t know where to start

simple,

I’ve also been a bit out of the loop the past ~4 years, but Feed The Beast is a good place to start. There seems to be a lot of variety depending on your playstyle. Some are technology focused, some are adventure focused, some are custom gamemodes like skyblock, There’s even FTB University which is a modpack to teach you how complex mods work.

Scio, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Skyrim, Limbo, Stardew Valley.

oxideseven, (edited ) do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Zelda BotW and TotK. I just kind of get board cus the game is so wide but so shallow. I wish I could like it cus there is a ton to like.

Any souls like. They just seem very lazy and the combat is just silly to me.

Just about any competitive game honestly. Part of it is I suck at them but mainly the trash talking toxic communities. Plus honestly I’m not very competitive.

Pokemon. I can’t wrap my head around the complexity and “meta” and the story doesn’t real matter anymore. I did like my first Pokemon game but that’s it.

Most Mario except Mario RPG. I played the heck out of SMB 1-3 but when that was all that was available. When games expanded so did my tastes I guess.

Renacles,

I’d like to hear a bit more about your thoughts on souls-likes. What makes them lazy and silly?

rikudou,
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Not the OP, but IMO it’s that difficulty is an actual feature. And that feels stupid. Difficulty should be a parameter, not a goal.

I’m a story guy myself, so if the game doesn’t have a really good story, it’s not for me. And souls-likes usually sacrifice everything to difficulty. And even if the story was good, dying 20 times with every new boss would break me out of it all the time.

trslim,

I think with Souls games in particular, difficulty can be part of the atmosphere. Whether or not that is your sort of thing is another story. My husband completely bounced off of Dark Souls even after playing Elden Ring. To him, Elden Ring was the first Souls game that was more interested in being a fun game rather than a difficult experience.

all-knight-party,
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Difficulty is not the goal of any of the Souls games (not talking about soulslikes). The challenge is a means to get you to think methodically and strategically, and is a vessel to bring you catharsis and release when you overcome it.

trslim,

That’s what I said to him. I personally think overcoming the challenge is very enjoyable. I love Dark Souls.

Mint_Raccoon, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Almost anything first person. It makes me incredibly nauseous, which is really unfortunate because there are some really neat games that use the mechanic. I recently sold my copy of Echo Night since I couldn't play for more than around ten minutes at a time. I also couldn't complete the tutorial in Half-Life because it made me so nauseous that I had to spend almost the entire day in bed. Weirdly I'm perfectly fine with Metroid Prime.

Danitos,

Try increasing the FOV. Same thing happened to me with Half-Life.

brsrklf,

I suspect Metroid Prime works for you because movement is quite slow. Samus feels like a tank compared to Gordon Freeman.

I love the Prime trilogy, but when I returned to it while doing a Metroid binge of sort, and I was kind of trying to do decent times, I was surprised how much slower-paced they feel compared to the 2D games. Even jumps feel floaty (probably for the better, it’s hard to judge jumps correctly in first person).

Veritrax,

I find turning off motion blur and screen shake/weapon bobbing really helps for me. Assuming you have the option that is.

BiggestBulb, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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I'm gonna get a lot of flak for this...

I really don't like Sekiro. Like, at all.

I played the inspiration for years (Tenchu) and loved that so much, but Sekiro just feels hollow in comparison. I know it's not a stealth game, nor is it trying to be, but I can't help but feel like the cliffs and stuff are just "cheap" ways of making the game more difficult. Idk, maybe I'm just not ninja enough lol...

Speaking of stealth, Dishonored. I REALLY wanted to love this game. It's just not open enough for my taste. There's only usually one main walkway to the objective (I say walkway, but there are of course roofs and stuff you can teleport to - I'm just saying, I wish you could get on the actual roofs of buildings Assassin's Creed style or explore the city open-world style). Cool story, cool theme, but the gameplay falls through for me. I felt the same way about MGS4.

Also Red Dead Redemption was meh for me. Could have been better, could have been worse. Undead Nightmare was great though.

Xariphon, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Legend of Dragoon. The game where a main character dies and is immediately replaced with an off brand of himself, and that includes a boss rush mid game that is unavoidable and punishes you for trying to use the game's signature mechanic.

falsemirror, do gaming w How do you feel about the expression "updated for modern audiences" in remasters and remakes?

I haven’t actually noticed this happening before now. My immediate reaction is if it is changes driven by the original creators I’d feel quite positive about it. Love to see personal growth. When driven by the studio though, I’m a bit more skeptical.

Either way, this is why modding should be protected. Let folks play historical/modern/hyper-weird versions of the game they love.

SnotFlickerman,
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When driven by the studio though, I’m a bit more skeptical.

This is a really good point. When it’s in the hands of the creators, you’re still dealing with people who know what they were creating.

A lot of the stuff that people complain about are hamfisted attempts by corporate flunkies to make the game “appeal to a wider audience” as opposed to actually caring about removing unnecessary or offensive material in a constructive way that doesn’t lessen the original impact of the piece of media.

Corporations never decided that women, black people, latinos, and LGBT were humans with inherent value to them simply from existing, but rather, they decided that “Oh shit, we’re leaving money on the table by not marketing to these groups or hiring them.” It’s all about dollar-signs. It’s why corporations will fly the Pride Flag in June on Twitter… Just not on their Saudi Arabia Twitter corporate account. The corporates don’t care about the issues, they just care about getting your labor and your money, in other words, extracting value from you.

And attempts to extract value from you are where hamfisted attempts at making pieces of media “more appealing to everyone” by trying to shove as much strained “diversity” (the corporate kind, not the real kind) in there as possible in hopes to increase sales.

…on the other hand though, some of the original creators simply never grew up and are just obstinately wanting to continue to offend people for no good reason other than getting off on triggering other people. Like I’d have more hope from a remake from Neil Druckmann over John Romero, for example.

ThatWeirdGuy1001, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Souls games.

tHe PoInT oF tHe GaMe Is ThE sTrUgGlE

So turn the difficulty up.

Gabadabs,
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A lot of games increase difficulty by just turning up HP and attack numbers, and part of the fun of souls games is that that's really not how they handled difficulty.

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
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Star wars Jedi fallen order/survivor seemed to do just fine. It changed parry times and enemy stagger/aggression with difficulty changes.

Doesn’t seem like it’d be that hard to do the same thing with souls games.

AVengefulAxolotl,

Its not for everyone. Just like any other game.

One appeal of the souls-like games is having one difficulty only. It makes balancing much easier.

At the same time people can talk about the game, and actually be talking about the same game. With different difficulties games can change a lot.

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

And I get that. My biggest issue is I know if I could just lower the difficulty I would love the game. Hell I feel I could probably get pretty good at it if I played it on a lower difficulty then switched to a higher one after getting everything down.

Chuymatt, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

OP just doesn’t like horses…

avater,
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that’s a bold statement.

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