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mohab, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)

Running on water in NG2 is super fucking cool.

In The Wonderful 101, you can dive under water when you carry a hammer (heavy weapon), otherwise you swim on the surface.

EvilBit, do games w Pick-ups from the Vancouver Retro Gaming Expo

I used to sing Sub Terrania’s praises long before it was cool. That game is a gem. The development team was a bunch of demoscene madmen who were able to wring miracles out of the Genesis and eventually created IO Interactive, which went on to make Hitman and the upcoming 007 game.

Their later game, Red Zone, is a technological flex like nothing else.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyrinx

criss_cross,

I played this as a kid. I was so bad at this game. I wanted to get farther but I think the third or fourth level broke me.

EvilBit,

It really was brutal, but in the way that makes you very aware that it’s your fault for sucking at it.

Flickerby, do games w Pick-ups from the Vancouver Retro Gaming Expo

Dark cloud is one of my favorites, I go back and replay it at least once a year. The second one was good too but it doesn’t quite have the same vibe as the first

ieGod,

Never played the first but the second had some mind numbing gameplay loops that didn’t do it for me.

damdy,

Both are great, but the drastically changed a lot in the 2nd. In UK they even called the sequel ‘Dark Chronicle’ rather than ‘Dark Cloud 2’.

At least the 2nd one removed the system where you could permanently lose your best weapons if you forgot to repair in time, they just become unusable.

QueenHawlSera, do gaming w Then promptly shuts down

You shouldn’t be allowed to patent game mechanics.

I mean could you imagine if movies worked like this? Imagine if Disney owned patents on exposition through song, talking animals, and twist villains.

capt_wolf, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)

Everblue 2 for the PS2 is one of my all-time favorite games. I play it about once a year. The original was an EU only release thst I didn’t get to play until a few years ago. It also had a sort of spiritual successor with Endless Ocean 1 & 2 for the Wii, made by the same developer. However, the first one didn’t have any of the treasure finding mechanics and there was no real threat to the player at any time. Neither series really let you walk on land, so to speak. The Everblue games do have above water parts, you return to the island between dives to talk to people, sell treasure, sleep and such, but they’re prerendered images that are more like a point and click adventure. There were a couple pc games I played around the same time that were made by independent developers that never really took off.

favoredponcho, do games w Pick-ups from the Vancouver Retro Gaming Expo

I vaguely remember playing Untold Legends back in the day. It was good.

lowleveldata, do games w Why are people gurgling the switch 2 so hard?

Why would you not get the bundle if you want MKW? It’s $50 that way.

technomad, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)

Certainly not the first by any means, but I was really impressed with the way that the Ori games handled diving. The omni-directional controls are 🤌

missingno, do games w Why are people gurgling the switch 2 so hard?
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"Except for all the people complaining, why is no one complaining?"

Misinformation has been one big game of telephone. There's been a lot of legitimate confusion around VRR, I know Nintendo did claim it was supported docked at first but then had to retract it. FWIW, this is probably something that wasn't ready for launch but will be patched.

But I've seen far more cases of misinformation used to bash on the Switch - I've lost count of the number times I've seen people claim Mario Kart is $90 somehow.

Regarding game prices, I'm not thrilled about it, but I also feel the need to point out that any AAA with DLC has already been more than $80 for a while now. If you don't like it, don't buy AAA.

Me, I don't often buy games at full price, or basically any AAAs outside of Nintendo for that matter. For the handful of IPs I really love that badly, I'm honestly okay with paying a premium. It's the price I pay for having niche tastes that have narrowed with age, it's fine because I'm saving a lot on the games I don't buy. If I have to pay $80 for Kirby Air Ride 2, I will because I've waited 22 years for this sequel.

There's a lot that's fucked up in the game industry, and I just don't think Nintendo is anywhere near the worst right now. The circlejerk here on Lemmy in particular has become especially tiring, and I wish some of y'all could direct that energy towards companies that constantly screw over their workers, push gambling-based business models onto kids, or keep collapsing under their own weight when they expect every game to be the next Fortnite and speedrun shutting down any game that doesn’t meet unrealistic investor expectations.

I think we've reached a point where you've got the backlash, the backlash to the backlash, the backlash to the backlash to the backlash... and all of that keeps amplifying toxicity. Everyone needs to step back and chill.

SolidShake,

Yes. Delux editions etc are $80+ Nintendo ka making base games $80 which means delux will start at 100-$120

okr765,

I agree that there has been a lot of misinformation surrounding the Switch 2 (especially that $90 price). It’s important that consumers know the truth about a product when they are considering what to buy, and misinformation never helps.

I think one of the larger issues that people here have with Nintendo pricing is not the initial prices, but the fact that Switch games released by Nintendo just haven’t gone on sale. AAA games from other publishers commonly go on sale years after their release, offering a more affordable option for people who can’t justify $80 on a new game. The last time I can remember Nintendo doing this with their games was Nintendo Selects on the 3DS and Wii U.

Another issue people here particularly have with Nintendo is freedom to do what you wish your hardware. Nintendo has always tried to prevent users from running their own software on their devices, and it’s easy to see how people are upset by this behavior (especially on Lemmy where there are many tsch-savvy Linux users who are greatly offended by this).

missingno,
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but the fact that Switch games released by Nintendo just haven't gone on sale.

But this isn't true either. I use DekuDeals for price tracking, you can look up any game for yourself and see when it's been on sale.

okr765,

You are correct, I should have done more research before stating that. However, the sales for first-party Switch games still seem much more hard-to-find as well as much less of a discount than when you compare to the PC market. For example, if you look at Super Mario Odyssey, the linked site lists an all-time low price of $29.49. Compare this to a AAA game released the same year, Horizon Zero Dawn, which can somewhat regularly be found for $12.49 on Steam. The Steam sales throughout the year also make it much easier to find PC games on sale, and as far as I’m aware the Switch doesn’t have something comparable. I just believe it’s much harder to find good deals on Nintendo games than the vast majority of other publishers, which is why the high price tag is hard to justify for many.

modernangel, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)
@modernangel@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fond memories of drowning in Quake {1996}

ShadowRam,

Lighting Gun.

Those with 3D accelerators had transparent water and could see people under the surface and kill them.

Those without got screwed.

Lembot_0003, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)

Blood/Duke Nukem 3d or other Build engine based games allow underwater swimming.

KoboldCoterie, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Marathon 2 (1995) let you go underwater.

tal,
KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Man, I’d forgotten how utterly baller that theme is.

Rhynoplaz, do games w Pick-ups from the Vancouver Retro Gaming Expo

If I recall, Dark Cloud surprised me. I think I got it on a whim for cheap and ended up sinking quite a bit of time into it.

jordanlund, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

All of the Assassin’s Creed games… AFTER the first one.

The first one was notorious, if you so much as got a toe wet it was instant death. LOL.

tobz619,

Haha that’s the kind of thing I love!! the developers that stopped water being a limitation and turned it into some kind of feature

For example, in the infamous games, you’re an electric man so waist high water kills you, and shallower water conducts your electricity. If an enemy also stands in that water, it’s an instant kill on them

Made up instantly for the fact you couldn’t swim lol.

Zahille7,

My evil run in Infamous, I would just find a group of people next to a puddle and just walk right onto it. Then I’d just watch as people would panic and run right into the water. Fun times.

edgemaster72,
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Me jumping on dock posts praying that Altair doesn’t decide to do a sudden 90 degree turn into death water:

https://media1.tenor.com/m/Fp0JJdxY6msAAAAC/yes-sweating.gif

jordanlund,
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I blamed it on Altair growing up in the desert. Not a lot of opportunities to learn how to swim. :)

Zarxrax, do games w First/notable 3D games where you could dive below water (and walk on land)

I think tomb raider let you swim underwater.

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