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JohnnyCanuck, do gaming w The gaming industry needs to become more like holywood
@JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m sorry, but your reasoning is absolute nonsense. Maybe game developers should unionize, but suggesting that it should work like Hollywood is pretty ridiculous.

The huge studios would function just like in Hollywood.

Okay, so fuck the developers at big studios just like how most of the people working on movies get fucked now? You think because a deal was reached by the union that the big studios aren’t still just running to the bank with their loads of cash? The recent strike (and most strikes in Hollywood) were mostly about residuals. You know why? Because people who aren’t above the line in the credits get shit pay. At least in the games industry most people are employees, get paid up front, have a salary, and whether the game succeeds or flops they get their money. And most people don’t get laid off between games. You’re getting paid your salary even while there is downtime. In Hollywood, if the movie flops(*), you’re shit outta luck, my friend. Hope you’re happy with whatever you made during production and you’re able to find your next gig quick. Because you’re not an employee of the studio, you were working for a production company on this one movie and now you gotta fend for yourself because the movie’s done and so is this LLC.

(*) which brings us to the big fucking asterisk in how Hollywood “works”. Movies don’t make money. Not on paper anyway. It’s so bad, it even has its own name: Hollywood Accounting. The gist of it is that they use creative accounting techniques so that profit sharing agreements (like the residuals that were just fought so hard for by the unions) pay as little as possible.

And yeah they would want to pump out those blockbusters, but nothing would stop indie developers from developing.

What stops indie developers from developing now? Indie game developers have it way better than indie movie makers. They have better platforms for distribution, a larger audience, and much lower cost to entry.

I would allow for consistent and fair discussions for the unions and studios as to how pay will be done.

Yeah, because that’s what Hollywood is known for…

It will also put in safeties for crunch and other abuses.

Crunch (and other abuse) still happens in Hollywood production, so… Nope, sorry.

I’m just saying [the Hollywood model] makes way more sense as a model for how modern AAA games are made.

No fucking way. As someone who was a salaried employee for 15 years in the A to AAA game industry over 7 projects, some of which failed but I still got paid, with bonuses and stock awards and job security, please fucking no. I’m glad I didn’t have to fight for a new gig every couple of years and hope for residuals.

frog,

Very well said. I think there is an argument that the gaming industry would benefit from more unionisation (there are very few sectors that wouldn’t benefit from it!), but emulating Hollywood doesn’t seem like the answer.

greenskye,

I think it’s fair to say they’re are some significant similarities between the two industries. They both focus on large, multi year creative projects with unknown returns. I’m not sure emulating Hollywood is the answer, but they can at least look at how existing Hollywood unions have approached addressing any similar problems

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Indie game developers have it way better than indie movie makers. They have better platforms for distribution...

It kills me that there's no Steam or GOG for TV and movies. My options are either Blu Rays, when they exist, or streaming, even if I buy the movie outright.

teawrecks,

You mean delivering an actual file/media that you can watch without streaming? I know Netflix has the ability to download stuff to watch offline later. I assume other platforms support something similar. That’s pretty close to steam or gog where you don’t own a copy of the game, you own a license to use their copy.

Edit: But yes, I do sometimes wish I could pay per title and not have to worry about subscriptions to maintain access to certain things.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

It's not close enough if I want to run it from a PC or Steam Deck. They only allow it on mobile where they can enforce their DRM. Then those downloads are only good for a few days before they need to be renewed and they run into all sorts of technical problems trying to enforce the DRM.

JangoF76, do gaming w I don't want to "Press any key to continue" to the main menu

Of all the things to complain about. You must have a very stress free life.

Lowbird,

Dude. It’s called a pet peeve. They’re allowed, and even people who have very stressful lives have them. It’s definitely better than shit-talking random people on the internet - just skip the thread if you don’t care about it.

EssentialCoffee,

My group calls them first world problems.

SpiderShoeCult,

I’d say that they’re more of an issue for people under a lot of stress. It just adds an extra stress point. In fact if OP was not stressed, they probably wouldn’t mind it enough to post a rant about it.

Misconduct,

They spent their time sharing a relatable gripe that sparked some jokes and discussion. You spent yours doing this.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod, do gaming w Elite Dangerous
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Kerbal Space Program

Civilization

Factorio

Inucune,

The factory must grow

Xanthrax, (edited )
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

Runescaaaaape, you casual.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Football Manager.

beneeney,

I would love to get into Football Manager or OOTP Baseball but I hate the yearly-purchase monetization scheme. I wish there was a good indie alternative, or something that scratches a similar itch.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

An upside of SI tending to have very minor year-on-year upgrades between FM editions is that most people don’t buy it every year. It’s common to buy every two or three years, unless a momentous change is implemented. The sortitoutsi.net site has squad updates among its mods that let you play older games for longer.

Not that I want to be encouraging you to take it up, the game is literally like crack and I don’t let myself play it anymore.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Ever tried SmokePatch Football Life for ePES? So good. Also totally free.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I have not. How does it compare to FM?

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

It’s closer to FIFA (but way better). It started as a beloved mod for ePES/Pro Evolution. Then the developer(s) took the manager mode and built it into a standalone, free title that still works with other mods. It’s crazy deep even without extra mods, but you can add in (amazing) team-and-player-and-country-specific chants, stadiums, player faces, balls, shoes, teams, fields, new announcers, it’s fucking wild. I love that you can take a rookie, use him well, and it actually reflects in his stats. Then you trade him on a few years later for huge bucks. So addictive. If you get it all going, it is the most-fun, most-immersive soccer experience I’ve had. It’s here, another updated version apparently incoming soon.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I’ll take a look at it, but like I said above I don’t let myself play FM anymore and this sounds equally dangerous. Do you need a PES install to play or is it fully standalone?

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, it is dangerous. Fully standalone and free. When PES went Free-to-Play, the developers spun the single-player/management component out into its own thing.

Hexagon,

Minecraft

Cethin,

I would disagree about KSP, at least for the first hundred hours or so probably. You’re actively learning and adventuring, and discovering new things. After that, once you’re figuring out how far you can push things or installing RP-1, you’re right.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod, (edited )
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

I once spent 40 hours testing a Duna lander

Agent641,

I had a thing for system-dominating single-launch ships.

These would have 10-12 probes on it, hanging from beams like bats. I would have massive stageable fuel tanks, and I would slingshot it past each planet and it’s moons, drop a probe and try to get the probe into orbit or on the surface (often failing due to lack of ∆V), all in one launch, with the ships core functioning as a science outpost to collect science and relay or bring it back to Kerbin.

I never quite dialled it in and touched or orbited every body with a probe, but some of these missions would last like 30-40 realtime hours,and I flew dozens of them.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been in the design and planning stage for a Jool 5 mission for months now.

I don’t even need the science. I just have to do it.

Zombie,

Just… One… More… Turn…

ninth_plane, do games w The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

The more people play and buy porn games, the better porn games will get, same as any other genre.

descartador, do gaming w Can we talk about the Roblox situation?

Another quesion is: where is visa, mastercard now? Shouldn’t they stop working with roblox?

genuineparts,
@genuineparts@infosec.pub avatar

Nono. Playing games with sex: bad. Grooming and sexually abusing kids: The new Summer Trend sparked by President Chomo.

Release the Epstein Files btw.

overload,

10,000% truth

MarcomachtKuchen,

Uffff brutal

TehPers,

Why would they stop working with Roblox? It’s the perfect platform for their execs to use when they’re looking to cheat on their SOs.

Porn is too heavily regulated for them, so they don’t like it. To begin with, it has a minimum age requirement that’s much higher than Roblox.

Payment processors (and any banks that are a part of it) can’t really be hated more than they already are. It’s amazing how much someone can fuck over society as a whole without any remorse. Narcissists and psychopaths I guess. I hope I see the companies cease to exist at some point during my life, and not be replaced with something worse (or equally as bad).

EldenLord, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

We got GoonerGate before the release of the Epstein files

douglasg14b, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to the age of bots.

Enjoy your perpetual unavoidable and even undetectable bias and opinion influencing astroturfing.

Paid for by whoever doesn’t want the things that you want, to influence the people around you to bite at each other’s throats and work against their own interests.

Rolive,

This is one of the biggest reasons Reddit has turned to shit.

PonyOfWar, do games w Krafton Issue Statement Regarding Subnautica 2

Always good to let this kind of drama develop for a couple weeks before passing any judgement. Not to say I fully believe the publisher’s narrative either. But maybe it’s not the time for grandiose proclamations of a boycott yet.

Baguette,

Gaming nowadays is always about being patient, whether its a pre order or controversy.

This also applies to the internet in general tbh

dragonfucker, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Copyright was invented so artists would be able to sell their art, and more art would be made.

When copyright is protected on a product that’s no longer sold, less art is made.

When a copyright holder stops selling their art, copyright protections should immediately cease, and they should be responsible for copyright obligations - releasing the source code to the public. Use it or lose it!

Couldbealeotard,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

This is the most level headed approach to IP I’ve seen. If you’re not willing to use the property you forfeit it. It’s a common contact for licensing rights for movies that forces a studio to make a movie or lose rights. That way people can’t squat on a licence to prevent others using it.

dragonfucker,

Sony has to make a Spiderman movie every few years even though DVDs of the old ones are still being sold, but Ubisoft can just delete games forever and they can never be played again.

MunkyNutts,

A good book on this is: Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity by Lawrence Lessig

naught101,

The same thing should apply to private property, especially in cities.

naught101,

Pretty sure it was so publishers (printing press owners) could have a guaranteed profit. Those two things (publisher and artist profits) were correlated at the time. Not so much anymore. Streaming/subscription mentality is like planned obsolescence for IP.

Omega_Jimes, do games w What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

I just don’t understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don’t want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.

porous_grey_matter,

See you’re looking at it from the point of view that it would serve the player experience, but that’s not what it’s for, it’s to mine your data

ILikeBoobies,

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  • Elevator7009,

    Hey, you posted this twice. Pretty easy to do, if your initial post does not go through and you hit Reply again…

    ILikeBoobies,

    We haven’t gotten another Middle Earth game because it had an online requirement

    Now look where we are

    thermal_shock,

    It’s for precedent on future games and to sneak in shit for later. Wittle down your expectations and privacy, make it “normal”.

    Sabata11792,

    Need to protect those purchasing opportunities from cheaters.

    anarchiddy,

    IIRC Borderlands 3 scales the value of loot to the game’s difficulty setting, with some mechanics aimed at encouraging players to join online coops at high difficulties in order to earn more valuable loot. I imagine cheats undermine that intent, and I also imagine borderlands 4 might be aiming at a pay to play scheme.

    I’m guessing this EULA is being used for all their IP with the intent of taking advantage of it in the future.

    glimse, do games w Would "suggest price" be a positive option for steam?

    I think it’s a terrible idea but please don’t take that as an insult. It would instantly be filled with $1 “bids” and the data would be useless at best. I also feel like if I was a dev, I’d feel pretty bummed about the catalogue of people who think my game isn’t worth buying

    Maalus,

    You could say the same about steam reviews.

    SupraMario,

    They can set a auto rejection on offers below a certain threshold, ebay does this with its make an offer.

    Pheonixdown,

    Someone would setup some third party tracker that identified the auto reject threshold and listed it for everyone, so people could low-ball just above it. Or devs would just set it to auto-reject below the listing prices.

    glimse,

    Then it gets filled with the lowest offers. Either way, the data wouldn’t be useful enough to warrant it as a standard feature. If the devs want to know, they can put up a poll or something

    acosmichippo,
    @acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

    I think that makes sense for items of finite/low quantity like eBay. Then you have to make sure your offer is at least reasonable so it beats other offers. But with an unlimited resource like software you don’t have to worry about that.

    irotsoma, do games w Why does the PC gaming industry still use such deceptive pricing?
    @irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

    To get sorted to the top of the lists for biggest discount. To claim bigger losses in copyright infringement cases. And to increase the perceived immediacy to buy it to get a good deal to take advantage of impulse buying whereas if they have time to think about it they may not buy it at all. Plus rich people don’t care how much something costs, so you’ll get a few of them here and there buying it at full price.

    oVerde,

    So much this

    Wrufieotnak, do gaming w #StopKillingGames Update: Germany becomes 4th county to hit threshold

    If you are an EU citizen and agree with the initiative: GO VOTE!

    It still needs to reach 1 million votes in total, not only the 7 country thresholds.

    Vittelius,
    @Vittelius@feddit.org avatar

    Right, I knew I forgot to mention something in my post. 1000% this

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Set a reminder for when I’m home

    B0rax,

    Are you home now?

    ReversalHatchery,

    Good bot

    /s

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    This actually reminded me to do it 😭

    B0rax,

    You‘re welcome :)

    exu,

    Did you do it?

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    yep

    tias,

    Why does it need to reach 1 million names exactly? This is a petition, right?

    jmcs,

    If it reaches the threshold the European Comission is forced to formally answer to it, which requires them do a full review of the subject and this greatly increases the probability of something being done.

    Sterile_Technique, do games w Steam Summer Sale - Top Deals
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    Subnautica $29.99 $9.89 (67% off)

    Sci-fi survival builder: you’re on a massive spacecraft that ends up crash landing on an ocean planet; your goal is to figure out wtf happened and find a way off the planet. This game is 80% feel-good tropical diving simulator; and 20% thalasaphobic deepsea horror. This has become one of my go-to “idk what to play” games that I keep returning to for a nice digital tropical vacation… with a dash of fleeing in terror from, uh… spoilers. No really though, if you don’t already know this game’s story, DO NOT start looking up videos and posts etc about it - just buy it and dive in.

    jazzup,

    This is one of my personal favorites and the one that introduced me to the crafting/survival genre. I highly recommend it.

    SidewaysHighways,

    Same here!

    Do you have another recommendation? Preferably something with multiplayer and would be even cooler if it has a server I can host!

    jumjummy,

    Not multiplayer, but Green Hell is also fantastic.

    Solemn,

    The Forest is a good multiplayer survival crafting game, with a pretty cool story. The sequel is also already out I think.

    jazzup,

    I really liked Grounded.

    I haven’t tried it yet, but Abiotic Factor looks pretty fun and has great reviews. It’s early access though.

    Sterile_Technique,
    @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

    Abiotic Factor

    Hadn’t heard of that one… it’s like a survival builder set in Half Life 1 lol. Wishlisted!

    brenticus,

    Just to throw a few other options on the pile:

    • Valheim is more combat oriented, but is probably my favourite survival crafting game after Subnautica. You’re playing vikings trying to earn their way into Valhalla. I die a lot. Very fun.
    • Planet Crafter is more chill, more jank, and more linear, but it’s a survival crafting game that is clearly heavily inspired by Subnautica. You are sent to a mars-like planet to terraform it as part of your prison sentence. It’s a great podcast game, just build and explore and watch numbers go up.
    • Less on the survival crafting side of things, the environmental storytelling is also really good in Outer Wilds and Return of the Obra Dinn. Very different games, but they were actually what I went to after Subnautica to scratch that itch and it worked weirdly well.
    lowleveldata,

    20% thalasaphobic deepsea horror

    I’m not sure about that percentage

    Skua,

    Never mind the depths I was already on edge when I met the fucking crashfish

    SidewaysHighways,

    He’s just happy to share some sulfur! and wanted a hug

    AstridWipenaugh,

    The audio in this game really seals the deal. You’re just swimming along collecting resources and hear a terrifying roar. But you look around and can’t see where it came from… Do you keep going or nope the fuck outta there and go take a breather in your life pod for 20 mins while your heart rate comes back down?

    falkerie71,
    @falkerie71@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Should I also get the Below Zero bundle?

    philpo,

    Absolutely. Below zero is more story oriented but still great.

    GoodEye8,

    Depends on what you want. If you want more of Subnautica story then get it. If you want more Subnautica style going into the depths, Below Zero doesn’t go that deep and about half the game is actually above water. While I loved Subnautica I felt pretty disappointed by Below Zero.

    Arbic,

    It’s such a great game. The entire mood of the game and the sound effects and music is so good

    IWantToFuckSpez, do gaming w Rant: Valve's new Steam Deck screws speak volumes about their ethos.

    Yeah what Valve is doing is great. Hopefully they will become more mainstream in the future and become more known with the super casual crowd. Nintendo definitely needs more proper competition in the handheld market.

    Also FYI it’s Phillips with double L, Philips with one L is the Dutch electronics company.

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Eh, they’re both shit 💩

    LoamImprovement,

    I can’t imagine what gives you that idea about the Steam Deck. I’ve had mine for a year and it’s a great little device.

    irmoz,

    I think they meant Philips and Phillips

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    I was referring to Philips the company and Phillips the screw. I feel like I made my thoughts on the Steam Deck pretty clear.

    LoamImprovement,

    Lol whoops, did not see the OP next to your name. My bad.

    Mummelpuffin,
    @Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

    I mean… Phillips heads are hood for what they’re actually designed for, which is, uh, to strip really easily so they don’t get over-tightened. Which is irrelevant if your manufacturing is precise enough.

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Screw head not device.

    altima_neo,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Norelco ain’t bad tho

    PeWu,

    I actually thought they invented those screws, thus linking them to their company. Glad to be enlightened

    I_am_10_squirrels,

    If they do become more mainstream, there is more opportunities for enshitification.

    IWantToFuckSpez,

    Nah not as long as they don’t go public and Gaben runs the company

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