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dwev, do games w PlayStation 6 Console And New PS6 Handheld ‘Canis’ Specs Leak, It’s Claimed - Insider Gaming

After SCE increased their prices in EU and Aus to help offset the US tariffs, I doubt I’ll invest anything into the PS ecosystem any more. I’d rather redirect into PC gaming from here.

HeyJoe, do games w PlayStation 6 Console And New PS6 Handheld ‘Canis’ Specs Leak, It’s Claimed - Insider Gaming

Some weird views in the article. Like comparing it to the price of the ps5 pro and will be lower. Of course it will be. It has to be since the price point of the average consumer will never buy it at that price. They need to get it back down to the $400-$500 range for it to work. Also saying the ps4 cutback on hardware compared to the ps3 may be true but it wasnt noticeable either. The jump between both consoles was huge and didnt seem like anything was sacrificed. That won’t be the case here since i doubt anyone will even notice the difference because games aren’t getting that much better looking anymore. They need to start focusing on features and other advantages to establish itself as a better option to having a PC.

ampersandrew, do games w PlayStation 6 Console And New PS6 Handheld ‘Canis’ Specs Leak, It’s Claimed - Insider Gaming
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see how this thing possibly competes with a handheld PC. It’ll play the same games approximately just as well but with a tiny fraction of the library, and unless something changes, online play won’t even be free.

simple,
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The Vita had a shared library system where if you get the handheld version for free if you owned the PS4 version of games. I imagine they could do something similar to keep playstation users interested

ampersandrew,
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That’s surely what they’re planning, especially since the architecture won’t be very different this time around, but that still pales in comparison to the value you’d get from a PC handheld for what will likely be an extremely similar price.

dormedas,

The handheld PC and things like SteamOS have crossed the moat that console games used to have as a defense. The PC is coming to the living room, attaching to your TV, and playing games controller-first. The question will be how well will those games play and will they be exclusive.

The other defense, exclusive games, consoles themselves have given up. PlayStation has been publishing to PC to make up revenues thinking that it’s safe because it’s not their competitor Xbox, and Xbox bet on gamepass (and has now lost the console almost entirely, hoping to make its money back via Windows licensure).

ampersandrew,
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I don’t think the Windows license factors into the math much at all, but otherwise agreed.

OmegaMouse, do gaming w Any Strong Opinions on Games in my Steam Wishlist (provisional) from 2024?
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

So you’re wanting to eliminate as many of these games as possible from your wishlist? The only ones I’ve played here are A Short Hike and Animal Well, and I can vouch for both of those being incredible.

A Short Hike is very charming. I had such a fun time playing through it one afternoon and finding all the little secrets. It has a lovely artstyle and is the perfect length.

Animal Well is simply a great metroidvania with some really unique items and beautiful pixel art. There’s some tricky platforming there if you want to get the collectables.

Sorry if that doesn’t really help with your conundrum, but if you want to cut down your wishlist I’d recommend keeping those ones!

Tenderizer78,

Yes, I am looking to remove as many as I can. Although not just based on what people have played but also what news people have heard about them.

A Short Hike wasn’t on the list. It was a “Short Trip”. I played A Short Hike on Epic and didn’t really vibe with it.

Animal Well was in the group of ones I am most likely to play, although I don’t really enjoy metroidvania (I’ll give it a shot anyway though).

Thanks anyway. Not a lot of useable advice but I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

OmegaMouse,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

Oh my bad, I hadn’t heard of Short Trip and my brain must’ve got that mixed up xD

I saw the trailers for Squirrel with a Gun, and personally I thought it looked a bit gimmicky. Perhaps the sort of game I’d tire of after a few hours.

Tenderizer78,

I added it when I saw someone praise that the trans-flag shirt gives you extra damage with bricks. Last-minute addition and probably going in my “closer-scrutiny” pile along with Tiny Glade and Dollmare.

OmegaMouse,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

haha that’s pretty great to be fair!

Tenderizer78,

I don’t get the joke, but it’s funny nonetheless.

Tenderizer78,

I played Animal Well and was immediately reminded that I do not like metroidvania. Even Outer Wilds I liked more in theory than in practice.

justlemmyin, do games w Recommendations for games to play on a treadmill (i.e. not too intense)

Hello good sir, How does one play Porsche unleashed on PC these days? Would you have any hints please?

eru777,

There’s several videos on getting it to run on windows 10 on youtube, however I think the best way to play NFS Porsche is on an old computer. And a CRT monitor.

rustyfish, (edited ) do games w PlayStation 6 Console And New PS6 Handheld ‘Canis’ Specs Leak, It’s Claimed - Insider Gaming
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

If this is true I’m definitely out. I am barely playing anything technically demanding on the hardware. Mostly older or indie games. The Steam Deck has proven that handheld PC couch gaming is more than enough for me.

Come to think of it, I didn’t even had to buy the PS5. It just catches dust and unlike the PS4 I didn’t get anything like Bloodborne aka something I could pump countless hundreds of hours in to justify buying it.

caut_R, do games w Good racing games on Steam?

From all the racers I‘ve played, DiRT 2 and GRiD 2 are probably my favos, and Forza Horizon 4 is also really good. But the former two are EA now that Codemasters has been bought (although they weren‘t on release) and FH4 is delisted (and 30ish bucks anyway) so…

cRazi_man, (edited )
@cRazi_man@europe.pub avatar

Dirt 2 Dirt Rally 2 is a game that I have really enjoyed being shit at.

caut_R,

You probably mean Dirt Rally 2, I meant the original DiRT 2, which is pretty arcade-y and easy.

(The one that had Games for Windows LIVE (yep lol))

cRazi_man,
@cRazi_man@europe.pub avatar

Correct, it should be Dirt Rally 2. Highly recommend that for real rally simulation.

caut_R,

I can second that, it‘s a good sim for what I can tell anyway. (Although also EA now, see OP‘s requirements)

simple, do games w Good racing games on Steam?
@simple@piefed.social avatar

Redout 2 if you're into futuristic racers. It's a lot of fun.

tomkatt,
@tomkatt@lemmy.world avatar

How’s Redout 2 compared to the first one? I have the original, but have been on the fence with the sequel.

simple,
@simple@piefed.social avatar

It's a more polished version of the first, its not that different. If you liked the first you'll enjoy the 2nd

Etterra, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?
  • Final Fantasy
  • Legend of Zelda
  • Super Mario Bros
  • Civilization
  • Populous
  • Sim City
jojo, (edited )

Populous! (It's also available in GOG as part of their old game restoration)

caut_R, do games w Recommendations for games to play on a treadmill (i.e. not too intense)

it had a lot of backtracking which was annoying

…but very immersive on the treadmill no? LOL

…I‘ll show myself out

germtm_, do games w Day 381 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

love Prey. it’s such an underrated gem of a game.

Dunstabzugshaubitze, do games w what video game deserves to be in a museum?
@Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org avatar
  • tetris, because it is tetris
  • pong, and probaly other examples of early home console games
  • wolfenstein3d, doom, quake, quake3, doom3 because all of them were technical milestones, had lasting impact on the industry and they show the rapid advancement of pc gaming in the 90s and 2000s
  • the elder scrolls series, as a simmiliar showcase.
  • final fantasy 1, 6 and 7, as a showcase of jrpgs through various generations and the fmv of 7 and onwards were imho precursors of 3d rendered movies.
  • half-life, because of the impact of it’s scripted set pieces and its level design
  • counter-strike and starcraft, as the games that probably gave us professional e-sport.
  • dota, because its for mobas what doom is for first person shooters.
  • deus ex and thief, pioneered the “immersive sim” and they are great showcases of the interactive nature of games
  • Pokémon, cultural impact can’t be denied and the trading aspect is a great example of a non traditional multiplayer experience
  • various Mario Games, but definitely Mario Bros. Super Mario World and Mario 64 and probably Galaxy as a showcase of the evolution of plattformers in 2d and 3d, maybe throw a spyro or banjo kazooie in there.
  • Grim Fandango, Kings Quest, Monkey Island, point and click adventures are there very own beast and often feature actual memorable characters. I definitely think more often about Manny Calavera than i do about Gordon Freeman or any Morrowind NPC, even though i played half-life and Morrowind much more than Grim Fandango
  • Minecraft
  • super meat boy, fez, hollow knight… lots of interesting indie games and they show how much more accessible game development has become.
  • Prince of Persia and karateka, the way they were animated alone would be enough, but they also featured an actual story, they were interested in showing and featured music used simmiliar to a movies soundtrack.
  • probably much more
  • games that are a product of a very localized culture (gothic could not have been made anywhere else but the ruhrarea for example)
  • the whole military complex is missing (from Mil Sims like Operation Flashpoint to actual recruitment vehicles like Americas Army)
  • more modern games, which i just don’t know or that have not been rattling around in my brain for long enough, but baldurs gate 3, the last of us, or alan wake would probably end up on my list in a couple of years.
Whitebrow,

Good list.

Vampire the masquerade bloodlines also deserves a honourable mention

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

Awesome effort.

ramenshaman, (edited )

Great list!

I would add KSP, Guitar Hero and/or DDR, Beat Saber, WoW, and Portal.

Dunstabzugshaubitze,
@Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org avatar

Kerbal Space Program is awesome :)

Videogames are still a young medium, very diverse and changing so rapidly, that i feel like there is no established canon of ‘classics’ or ‘high impact’ works. We’ll probably end up with dozens of lists like this in such a topic, and might end up without a single game that made it onto all of them, besides tetris.

if a simmiliar question was asked in a movies community i’d bet any list with more than 10 entries would include metropolis, nosferatu, citizen kane and star wars, just because those are widely agreed upon movies that had an impact.

Cocodapuf,

i’d bet any list with more than 10 entries would include metropolis, nosferatu, citizen kane and star wars,

I’d add the Shawshank Redemption to that list as well, and probably the Godfather part 2.

kurcatovium,
@kurcatovium@piefed.social avatar

Amazing list. I personally would add couple games, that defined my "gaming hobby":

  • XCOM/UFO: Enemy Unknown - not sure how this fits in the list, but it was ground breaking for me: perfect blend of micro- and macro management, strategical decisions, tactical battles, what a great game and so much memories of it (and I'd put honorable mention of Jagged Alliance 1&2 here, 'cause they are very similar concept)
  • Civilization - genius idea, one of the 4X pioneers, easy to pick up, hard to master, and so much replay value; its overall depth is quite a feat, especially given it's from 1991, no wonder the franchise is still alive and well now
  • Fallout - esp. 1 & 2 might not be the best gameplay-wise, but their world building, characters and atmosphere are excellent... and everyone knows the legendary intro "War, war never changes..."
  • Planescape: Torment - similar to above, amazing world, unbelievable story, one of a kind game
  • Gothic - mainly 1&2 were simply awesome, there are no barriers (ahem), the world is your to explore, but it's deadly so you have to plan your progress, nothing is streamlined for you; I can't remember different game with such a vibe (other than piranha bytes later production)
  • VtM: Bloodlines - kind of similar to Deus Ex, but also taking from the table top; and in my book it has THE best atmosphere of all the games I've played
  • Witcher - this might be just European thing, but playing especially W1 felt kind of like folklore fairy tale from childhood turned into pretty grim adult game
  • Disco Elysium - this is probably the only "sort of new" game that I've played and which definitely deserves a place in the list, great characters, amazing story and writing

there are plenty of others too, but my brain farts

jawa21,

I would add Rogue for sure.

Dunstabzugshaubitze,
@Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org avatar

oh, absolutely, rogue and nethack, they are the foundation of crpgs and dungeon crawlers.

i just fear we’d need increased security to break up the fight between groups with various definitions what ‘roguelike’ means.

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Shadow of the Colossus should be in there too. It has pioneered orchestral music in video games and gad a huge impact on them as a whole.

Dunstabzugshaubitze,
@Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org avatar

shadow of the colossus seems like a great game, but i’ve never heard its music referenced as pioneer work, what did it different in that department?

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

To my limited knowledge, it was the first games where true orchestral music was used. It was influential enough to be remade for PS3 and PS4, there are few games to get such a treatment.

Dunstabzugshaubitze,
@Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org avatar

i think that honour might go to total annihilation.

i also remember the final fantasies on the psx having an orchestral pieces jn their soundtrack, but those might have not been performed by an actual orchestra originally.

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Possible. Might warrant more reserch on my part. Still, there is very few games to be remade for 3 consecutive console generations.

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

From my quick search, looks like it would be The Lost World: Jurassic Park, in August of 1997. Total Annihilation was released in September of 1997.

knight_alva,
@knight_alva@lemmy.world avatar

I would add the OG Mortal Combat gave us the MSRP rating system.

anomnom,

Probably shouldadd Mike Tyson’s Punchout, Tekken 2, and Marvel vs Capcom.

Double dragon, Street Fighter, the original Simpsons arcade game.

anomnom,
  • Grim Fandango, Kings Quest, Monkey Island, point and click adventures are there very own beast

Maniac Mansion was the OG in the category, at least with graphics.

Myst deserves a place for is graphics too, even if it was mostly static renderings.

PacMan,

Missing Space Invaders it started a coin shortage in Japan.

Others I can think of off the top of my head:

  • Donkey Kong
  • pacman
  • zelda
  • Halo
  • Unreal Tournament
  • Sonic
  • GTA
  • Gran Turismo
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Earthbound
  • Castlevanna
Dunstabzugshaubitze,
@Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org avatar

yes, arcade stuff is lacking on my list. The few i have played where mostly on an atari 2600 and simmiliar home consoles way after the fact and the only arcade i’ve ever seen was in a holiday resort thingy :D

Zelda: yep, was surprised there was no mention of it after i looked over my “finished” list, original Zelda and ocarina of time should probably be there, maybe a link to the past. did not play breath of the wild, so don’t have an opinion on it. But zelda -> altp -> ocarina of time is a nice showcase of 2d games transitioning to 3d, and the item based exploration and progression is found in a lot of games.

halo: i am not a console shooter guy and on pc it felt like a very good game, but atleast to me not ground breaking. through the lense of console shooters it’s probably a huge milestone.

unreal tournament: if i’d be listing my favourite games it would be there. but it did not have the impact on e-sport cs or the quakes had so it would be another technical showcase. the unreal engines became very important however.

sonic: yes, at the very least to show another take on plattformers.

gta: yeah, 3 onwards as blockbuster movie equivalents. don’t ask me why they are not on the list, no idea.

gran turismo: if we include simulators, we should also list a bunch of microprose work, richard burns rally, the microsoft flight simulators and so on. Definitely an interesting section of gaming, but not one iam part of so hard to tell what to include for it.

chrono trigger: yeah, my list lacks non western games and chrono trigger deserves to be there simply because of its ambitious scale and the fact that its one of the greatest games i’ve ever played, what was i thinking?

earthbound: never played it :(

castlevania: the early metroids and later castlevanias for what we know as “metroidvanias” today. I’ve played castlevania 1 and 2 and there is not much of what makes metroidvanias in them. fun games though.

Fizz, do games w Recommendations for games to play on a treadmill (i.e. not too intense)
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Factorio, osrs, rimworld.

I tried playing games like Tony hawk pro skater or racing games, but every time I’d turn I’d lose my balance and almost fall off the treadmill. So anything i could play had to be slow placed or not have a 3d camera.

rustyfish, do games w Day 381 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Psycho Shock is one of my all time favourite games!

paris, do games w Steam had already shown its true face, itch.io and GOG are fighting censorship alone.

itch capitulated in like the worst way what do you mean. they nuked a bunch of stuff and stole money that they hadnt paid out to creators yet even for non-delisted games. itch is hardly “fighting censorship” in that regard. dont bother boycotting them or steam though. call visa and mastercard daily to pester them about their recent changes that have affected digital storefronts and dont let up until they reverse course. thats where your pressure will make a difference. three people refusing to buy from steam anymore will do nothing at all.

rikudou,
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I mean, three people calling Mastercard will do nothing as well.

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