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bizarroland, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?

I don’t know how it has become so fucking easy for large corporate content creators to push the narrative that coming up with ideas for new stories or new games is actually difficult.

There are so many games that have yet to even be thought of.

There are so many storylines that have never touched pen to paper that we could experience, And I know that it is a little risky to offer something to people that they have not personally experienced before, but holy shit, why do we have to remake everything 650,000 fucking times?

pulido,

I largely agree with you, but I think Final Fantasy is an exception.

I’m more interested in what they could do with the old worlds than anything they’ve released since 13.

catloaf,

There are so many games that have yet to even be thought of.

Oh yeah? Name one.

bizarroland,

Okay, how about a game where you are a voodoo priest, and you move a doll through a board full of traps and whatnot, and then the person who you have possessed with your voodoo doll then follows the path that you navigated with the voodoo doll.

Spice it up by having extra events happen while the person is moving through the real life version of the board that you then have to use your voodoo powers to compensate for while you now no longer have any more control over the person who you’ve taken over.

I guess that’s more of like a puzzle thing, so sure, for an RPG, How about an Isekai game where you plop down into a magical world and you’ve got all the pop-up screens and everything like you would see an anime and manga, but there is no Demon King, there is no great evil to defeat. It’s just you exploring the world and having fun with your kind of cheat OP powers while meeting people and learning about the history of this world you’ve been plopped into.

You can have actual events happen by like being involved in small-scale battles between kingdoms and uncovering lost relics and dungeons that have never been explored even by the locals and building a party of people to establish your own kingdom in a neglected land.

The latter would give you an opportunity to go like City Builder Sim-style for a bit of the game.

Or if you think that’s stupid, How about a role-playing game where you and a bunch of your other magician, wizard, witch, whatever friends, have built the first fantasy spaceship, and now you’re flying through the celestial realms, visiting all of the other planets in the solar system, and encountering new people, and helping them to solve their problems that have nothing to do with your planet but rather with the goal of establishing diplomatic relationships with other nearby planets.

This shit is easy. Coming up with an idea for a game, a new one that sounds fun and interesting to play that covers a different storyline and gives opportunities for dozens of different authors and creators to put a piece of themselves into it and come up with interesting fun things to do, that shit is fucking easy, and I don’t know why they’re not fucking doing it.

Ashtear,

Like you said yourself, it’s risky.

That said, I think SQEX is one of the better large publishers out there about giving ideas some leeway. Hell, they let Yoko Taro make really fucking weird shit for far longer than was reasonable until it finally paid off with NieR: Automata.

smeg,

I don’t think anyone’s claiming it’s difficult, it’s just more of a risk. If you’re the investor calling the shots with your big bag of money do you choose a new idea which might be great but people might not like, or to rehash an existing idea that already has fans who will buy more of the same? The decision is entirely financial.

tiredofsametab, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?

Nah. I'd rather they make something with the size, scale, mechanics (referring for combat and such but not same abilities, etc.), and storytelling of FFVI. Optionally some fancier graphics and preferably no grinding anywhere.

newthrowaway20, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?

If Square decides to do another FF remake, they’ll either skip over 8 and do 9 instead, or they’ll go back and do 6. That’s what I think. But if they did 8, they better overhaul that stupid Draw system.

pulido,

I… loved the Draw system from 8.

I would just sit back and be like “well, I guess I’ll stock up for my adventure.”

Good times.

Soggy,

Leave Draw exactly as it is, thanks. Maybe increase magic damage scaling but the Junction system is neat and the whole thing ties into the plot.

missingno, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Only if they DON'T drop the classic turn-based combat. I actually hate the idea of a 'remake' that changes genre entirely.

1-6 recently got the Pixel Remasters, and before that 3 and 4 had the DS remakes. I'd like to see proper remakes of 5 and 6 myself, but that's unlikely to happen since the Pixel Remasters exist.

7, personally I'd play a faithful remake, but it'd be silly to make one since they already have the non-faithful 'remake'.

8 is the one game that could benefit the most from a non-faithful remake. It's a game that's worth remaking because the original was such a mess. But I feel like a bit of a hypocrite for saying that right after complaining about FF7. What I'd do is still keep it turn-based, but completely overhaul Draw and level scaling.

9 would be the most likely candidate as a fan-favorite that could be kept faithful and still hold up well. And rumors have been swirling around for a while that one may be coming.

10 and 12 already have the HD Remasters, and those are excellent. So no need.

11 is the most in need of some way to preserve it for future generations, but I don't know how that would even work. Could it perhaps be adapted in some way like they did with Dragon Quest 10 Offline?

13 onward, too new to need remakes. (And also I have no interest in the direction the series has gone since then anyway)

Soggy,

You leave 8 alone! It’s not turn based (in a strict sense) and Draw/Junction is the foundation of the entire game, mechanical and narrative. The scaling is a little weird because there’s two main experience bars and only one of them makes enemies tougher and it’s not explained, but so be it. All I want is the Japan exclusive Chocobo World and updated graphics without changing the visual style and maybe a soundtrack that doesn’t sound so MIDI.

Eeyore_Syndrome, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?
@Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works avatar

FF11 in Unreal 5 or at least DX12. 🙃 Need my Galka at maximum sexy.

SolidShake,

UE 5 sucks major dick though. Like oblivion is a cool AI generated remake and gold use of that engine. But it’s far from optimized. My frames go from 120-45 in a matter of 2 seconds in the same area.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

How is the Oblivion remaster AI generated?

pulido,

I’d prefer to see it using Godot and Vulkan.

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

I’d love an XI remake but it’s also scary to think about because of how I know it’d completely take over my life lol.

edgemaster72, (edited )
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

(Galka)(subligar)(You can have this.)
edit: added an appropriate screenshot
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d885444e-4f0d-4382-a8fd-7ab16f749513.png

smeg, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #13

So…dev stumbles, fans harass, and the project is dead.

Goodbye Winlator…for now?

Ugh, another amazing one-person project killed by harassment. The internet makes it so trivial to bombard someone with hate-mail, and I doubt many of us have been through the “media training” necessary to deal with it. I only have the tiniest of projects going and if the people I thought I was making a nice thing for suddenly turned on me then I think I’d be saying “fuck it then” too.

Dariusmiles2123, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?

I’d have loved turn based combat to remain in FF7 remake.

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the remake bit it doesn’t feel as tactical as the old one in my memory.

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think there’s a turn based mode you can enable from the options menu. I know there was one for 15.

Dariusmiles2123,

I think I enabked it, but it’s clearly not the same as the system from the old games.

drasglaf, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #13
@drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

Since you love underwater settings, you probably know already, but Subnautica 2’s Early Access was announced not long ago. I’ll wait until it’s complete, but given their track record, I feel it’s a game many people will be comfortable buying in EA to give feedback.

Tieas, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #13

Another great one, I always enjoy reading them.

theskyisfalling, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #13

Couldn’t agree more with your take on Early Access bullshittery. I too refuse to pay for anything that is “released” and described as much. It is just another thing after micro transactions that have further ruined gaming and despite a personal boycott of these practice’s still gets ever more common :(

Kolanaki, do games w Do you think Square Enix should remake other Final Fantasy entries?
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I would like 3/6 to get the FF7 treatment, especially since it would be cool to see in 3D.

The other obvious choice to remake that isn’t final fantasy would be Chrono Trigger, but that would just be fucking with perfection.

Fizz, do games w Cities Skylines 2, Kerbal Space 2, Planet Coaster 2, Frostpunk 2... What Went Wrong?
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

For cities skyline. The first game was pretty shit all things considered. The game had so many dlcs and mods were what added a lot of the good functionality.

Cs2 was way more ambitious with the simulation aspect and utilising new dev tools. Once we get more mods and more dlcs cities 2 will be looked at as an amazing city builder.

BenLeMan,

I would be inclined to agree with you, except that the simulation is one of the weakest parts of the second game.

But also part one did not have the same ludicrous number of game-breaking bugs on release.

CS2 has gotten better for sure, and will keep doing so over time, but I’ve given up on wanting to buy it because it seems fundamentally worse than its predecessor.

If they ever add DLCs for true simulation of the economy and for showing fire, police, and ambulance crews at work as well as re-adding bicyclists I might reconsider.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Yeah I know cs2 sim sucks, believe me I’m one of the biggest cs2 haters there is. On release the cs2 sim was the same as cs1, all smoke and mirrors. Except cs1 didnt promise to be calculating all these things.

Cs2 has been pretty bug free for me up until economy 2.0 added a few simulation bugs.

My wishlist is for them to remake all the vanilla assets, they look terrible. Add bikes and e scooters. Then add an industries DLC.

kayzeekayzee, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #13

I started playing Islets after hearing anout it from your posts, and I really enjoy it! Thank you!

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so glad!!!

It’s SO bright and colorful and pretty, and it really is a lovely combination of genres. I think I got it from GOG, maybe it was redeemed on Epic, but I played it a few months ago and fell head over heels for it. Feels perfect on a handheld, too!

hakase, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #13

I love these updates so much! Thanks for all of the time and effort!

PerfectDark,
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I’m so glad you do!

I feel lucky in that I just love writing these, it makes me feel cozy and happy. So I’m so glad you’re enjoying them!!!

CosmoNova, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

There‘s no Oblivion remake. Go to the Steam Page and carefully read word for word what it is you‘re talking about.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I play Fantasy Critic with some friends. We allow remakes in our league but not remasters. This one counts as a remake for purposes of this site, with a flag on it to note that it was contentious. This game definitely blurs some lines on some definitions.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Out of interest, how does that site classify Age of Empires Definitive Edition (and aoe2:DE and aoe3:DE) and Age of Mythology: Retold?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know. As far as I can tell, it’s only searchable for the current calendar year, and we can view games we had on our roster in the same league in previous years. No one had any of those games on their roster. The site differentiates between remasters, remakes, and reimaginings, with a reimagining being something like Resident Evil 2 or Final Fantasy VII Remake. We used to not allow remakes, but we changed the rules for our league starting last year (personally, I voted against it, but I was outvoted). The league commissioner can always override a decision that the site makes when categorizing a game.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I managed to find aoe3 and aom on the site by using a site-filtered Google search. Couldn’t find 1 or 2, but with both of those that I found being “remake”, I suspect the two I didn’t find would be the same.

It’s interesting, and perhaps highlights how vague the line is between remake and remaster. AoM I can see being called a remake (at a bit of a stretch), but 2 & 3 are pretty solidly remasters in my mind, due to being entirely in the original engine with just a bit of new QoL features and improved graphics added.

prole,

Fantasy Critic

Wait what? Is this like fantasy sports, but with video game reviews? Do you draft developers or some shit?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, it is fantasy sports but with video games. You draft games, and your points are determined by their score on Open Critic. Over 70 gains points, under 70 loses points. Every point over 90 is worth double. The way my friends and I structure our league, we have one counter pick during the draft, and the counter picker gets the inverse of the points of that game; so if I have a friend who drafts Kirby Air Riders, and I counter pick it, and it scores 67, my friend loses 3 points and I gain 3 points. If I counter pick a game that scores positive points, I lose those points instead.

The only game on my roster that has released so far is Knights in Tight Spaces, which only got me 6 points (I aim for about 13 points per game), because it scored a 76 on Open Critic, and I was perhaps a bit too risky when I drafted Pony Island 2: Panda Circus, because I got counter picked on it, and it doesn’t have a release date, so I might be stuck with a game that scores 0 points due to not releasing this year.

prole, (edited )

But you don’t always know about every release a year in advance (I mean for games that weren’t announced yet at the time of your draft)… Are there “seasons”?

Lol sorry, I’ve just never heard of this and I’m intrigued.

Edit: clarity

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Correct, you don’t know that. You can speculate on releases, like I did with Pony Island 2, and get counter picked as a punishment for the risk. As long as it’s in the site’s database, it’s fair game. I drafted “Unannounced 3D Mario Game” this year, but then I picked up “Unannounced 3D Donkey Kong Game” after the draft for 1 in-game dollar (no one else put in a bid for it), as a hedge, since the rumor was that either a Mario or a Donkey Kong game would be made by the Mario Odyssey team for the Switch 2 launch. No one counter-picked Mario, so I’m allowed to drop it, and the Donkey Kong entry automatically updated to Bananza. The “season” is a calendar year. We do our draft early in January, and typically the first release of the year will be like halfway through the month, and the score that each game earns is whatever score it has at the stroke of midnight on January 1st.

Because we don’t know every release a year in advance, A) this game got a lot harder starting back in 2022, because that’s when game marketing cycles got way shorter, and B) some of the best reviewing games of 2025 probably won’t even be announced until this coming June.

prole,

“Unannounced 3D Mario Game”

Ahhhhhh OK, I see…

Do you guys curate this yourself, or is there a website or something that facilitates it?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They have their own database. If there’s a release or a rumor they don’t know about, you can suggest one, but they ask you to cite your sources. If it’s got a Steam page and you provide that link, they’ll basically add it right away, which is what happened when I got Total Chaos added. Fantasy Critic also gives league commissioners a lot of power to house rule just about anything.

prole,

Neat. Thanks for the info!

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