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Jazsta, do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

Noita. Got a good deal on the steam sale. Took a while to get over the hump of not knowing what the heck is going on and dying a bunch but getting better at it has been fun

Die4Ever, do gaming w I’d love a 2d Resident Evil Metroidvania.
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neon_nova,

Seems like it could be fun. I’ll give it a try.

Tudsamfa, (edited ) do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
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OpenTTD. Trains go vroom.

Had it on my radar for a while, didn’t think I would like it this much. Boy was I wrong, my sleep is as badly scheduled as my trains.

cyberpunk007, do games w Elden ring night reign single player

You can play it single player, I played all the souls game single player, but more recently prefer doing bosses with others because I’m not a patient player and from software bosses require patience. Lots of it. Lol.

Nikls94, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

Did you finish all of them? Or at least play them for an hour? If you’re using steam for 20 years, that’s a game a day.

atomicpoet,

I definitely don’t complete all of them. My goal is to at least play an hour each, but not every game is worth an hour.

The most time I’ve ever spent on a game is around 100 hours.

MagnyusG, do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

I started playing VA-11 HALL-A, and I’m kicking myself for not getting into it sooner. It’s such a vibe, both in gameplay and music.

Dremor,
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You may also like Coffee Talk (1 and 2). Good story, the characters are likable, and it works with controllers, so you can play it on the go with a Deck or anything similar.

BigTrout75, do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

Mario 64. Never really had the patience before, I would rather play PC games. It’s pretty fun. Gameplay is where it’s at.

qarbone, do games w My statue Peebee (Mass Effect Andromeda)

The only asari I’ll ever truly accept is Dr. Liara T’soni, my OTL.

Brkdncr, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

How much have you spent

atomicpoet,

A few thousand dollars.

Never bought a single game at full price. Almost all the time, it’s at least 90% off. Lots of game bundles abound. And free games are given away all the time.

danielsan256, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

lol I’ll feel like I’m heading in the same direction😅

BroBot9000, do games w Old gamers don't understand what mobile gaming has become
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Games as a service is a scam and goes hand in hand with gambling and addictive mechanics used to keep people hooked. It’s absolutely toxic.

Nintendo is a corporate shithole but at least they make some sort of semblance of non abusive games.

“Portable gaming” is always welcome but the business model of phone games is fucking disgusting.

atomicpoet,

Then don’t play games-as-a-service on mobile. Plenty of great mobile games you can buy outright, no strings attached.

Worried about ownership? Back up the APK files—problem solved.

You don’t have to swallow every business model you hate. Choice is still on your side.

BroBot9000,
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I don’t. You are exposing children to those exact mechanics and normalizing that behaviour. Without further thought in the future they will go for increasingly scammy shit tactics.

atomicpoet,

My kid knows full well what is allowable and what is not. She has never spent money on micro-transactions.

leave_it_blank,

Seriously, you played behind your mom’s back. As did I and everyone else. Be careful, talk to her about the shitty tactics. She has to be aware of them, spot them, and know how they work to be able to avoid them. The hardest part will be for her to actually believe it. Those life service shit uses the most disgusting psychological tricks.

Or she will spent all her money behind your back someday.

We all had our tricks, and children will always be cleverer than their parents.

missingno,
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We all know that decent games exist, somewhere. But the amount of effort it would take to wade through all the shovelware and gacha to try to find an even halfway passable game on Google Play simply isn't worth my time.

And with the mobile market being what it is, it arguably isn't worth it for developers to try and sell any serious game as mobile-first, because it's so difficult for those types of games to succeed when mobile gamers want gacha and those that don't simply aren't playing on mobile. If it's truly worth my time, it should be ported to other platforms.

atomicpoet,

Honest question: how do you find “decent” games elsewhere?

Because all storefronts on PC and console suck when it comes to discoverability.

Do you just accept what marketers and “gamers” tell you about value?

missingno,
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Word of mouth is certainly a large part of it, yes. People talk about successful games. One way or another, the games I like make it onto my radar when I see buzz about them.

But what are the most successful games on mobile? What are the games mobile gamers talk about? Gacha. It's all gacha. Whatever else is out there, nobody's talking about it and I'm never going to see it. Nor do I have any reason to go searching through a toxic cesspit in the hopes that maybe I'll eventually find something, when it is far easier to look elsewhere, on platforms that haven't been thoroughly corrupted by the race to the bottom.

But again, the real takeaway I want to stress is that the market has been this way for long enough that both gamers and developers know the well is poisoned, and it will never be unpoisoned. The fact that mobile has become dominated by gacha has reinforced itself - everyone not interested in gacha has left the platform, and mobile developers will keep selling more gacha because that's what the remaining audience wants. They even know that the average mobile gamer won't spend money on a more ethical business model.

I know that developers know that I know that this is what mobile is. The way I see it, mobile itself has become a red flag. If a game is trying to be more than gacha trash, well why don't the developers have the sense to put it on other platforms where non-gacha gamers are? If not, they're shooting themselves in the foot and I have no pity.

atomicpoet,

Here’s where you and I differ: I don’t trust word of mouth. I don’t trust canons. I don’t trust marketing. And frankly, I don’t trust the so-called “gamers” who repeat the same tired narratives.

Instead, I dive deep—into the bowels of app stores, into archive.org, anywhere I can find games no one else has played or talked about. Then I judge for myself whether they’re worth a damn.

That’s how I’ve uncovered hidden gems, and why I know most of what passes for “good taste” is just groupthink dressed up as expertise.

The only people with real taste? The ones willing to seek things out and form their own opinions. Everything else is just noise.

missingno,
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So what, you just buy games at random and hope maybe you landed on something good? Without anything that would make for an informed purchase? Sounds like a horribly inefficient way of running headfirst into Sturgeon's Law.

atomicpoet,

Sometimes I do buy games on a whim.

But usually, I’m a deal hunter—I scour for discounts, read descriptions carefully, study screenshots, and watch gameplay footage. If it grabs my interest, I pull the trigger.

Surprisingly, most of the games that catch my eye turn out to be pretty good.

You should give it a shot. Ignore the hype, forget word of mouth and influencers. Dive into something completely new and different—you might just be pleasantly surprised.

missingno,
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I do. But to me, step one of filtering out Sturgeon's Law is looking in the right place - platforms that are not overflowing with so much poison that I already know I'm unlikely to ever find what I want.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder, do games w The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures
DeathByBigSad,

I American’t sign European petitions

sip,

no worries, if you are on any online gaming comunities with Europeans, you can share the link.

owenfromcanada, do games w Old gamers don't understand what mobile gaming has become
borari,

I feel like I’m watching a gen x or really fucking early millennial transform into a boomer live in this thread right now.

Kolanaki, (edited ) do games w Elden ring night reign single player
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It has always had single player you just get NPC team mates instead of human players. It’s not even always online.

lurker891,

I don’t think there’s npc players. You switch to solo mode and go alone.

Kolanaki,
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Wow really? They said it would in one of the longer trailers for the game.

MrMcGasion,

Correct, they do scale the boss HP when solo vs a normal trio game, you also get one guaranteed free revive and shops are guaranteed to sell a revive item. Personally, I’d still rather queue with randoms, but we’ll see how that goes when they add duo games. Queue times can already be a bit long sometimes, and I’m a bit concerned that losing duo teams to their own mode will make solo queues even longer and more annoying.

ISOmorph, do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
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A friend convinced me to pick up RE Village because it suposedly plays more like an FPS than a classical RE horror game. I did beat Dimitrescu recently and I kinda have to disagree with him. There are so many moments that feel very tense because enemies aren’t vulnerable because “magic” so you have to play cat and mouse like in RE 3 with Nemesis. I do like it enough that I’ll keep at it though. Love turning those red rooms blue on the map.

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