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xxce2AAb, (edited ) do games w Do you cheat in video games?

Only single player games – and usually only after they become monotonous playing the intended way.

Zephorah,

The Skyrim mod that plays Danger Zone when a dragon shows up.

xxce2AAb,

Truly the very apex of human artistic expression. Frankly, we might as well just call it quits. If you grab the chairs, I’ll turn off the lights.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s all gone downhill since

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

I need to know the name of this mod right now cause that sounds hilarious and epic in equal measure.

Zephorah,
Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

thank you very much. that is amazing.

LillyPip,

Monotonous, or if you’re hopelessly stuck. If I can’t get past a puzzle or fight, and I’d otherwise stop playing because it’s not fun anymore, I’ll look up a solution. The alternative is not finishing the game and not seeing the rest of the content or story.

redsand, do gaming w I think Konami confirmed mgs4 had 40% of its logic written in powerpc assembly

So rebase and use unreal engine konami

danielhanrahantng,

Wouldn’t o3de be better.

thingsiplay, do gaming w I think Konami confirmed mgs4 had 40% of its logic written in powerpc assembly

Let’s wait for the Ai driven rewrite of those parts into C, and then covert that code to whatever they target.

redsand,

From PPC assembly? WTF data would you even train that AI on

danielhanrahantng,

Agreed but what about the parts that are not standard in cpus today

Chronographs, (edited ) do gaming w I think Konami confirmed mgs4 had 40% of its logic written in powerpc assembly

You’re talking out of your ass, you can’t say “Konami confirms” about something you think is true because they said something else.

danielhanrahantng,

I said I think because I do not know how much assembly the game uses all I know is it is a big amount because with linux part of it is written in assembly so it can use the nonstandard parts of the cpu and the cpu features of the ps3 were not standard at the time.

mrgoosmoos, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

no, I mod them

there is no such thing as cheating in a personal game

don’t tell the people on Don’t Starve forums, but save mods are totally okay and not at all “cheating and ruining the game”. you know what ruins the game? losing my several hundred days of progress because I didn’t actually pause the game when my dog started making puking sounds and I ran away from my computer

also, Minecraft automation - sure, I could let my server run overnight, or I could just directly give myself the materials the farm would have produced in 12 hours and save the power consumption. ofc I validate all my farms before I do any of that, and I don’t give more resources than they produce.

crapwittyname,

Yep, I bounced off Don’t Starve so many times after losing everything on a good run. It’s too involved, too long, and there’s too much endgame content to be happy to start again after making a tiny mistake dozens/hundreds of hours in. It’s not like Hades or Balatro where a top tier run lasts like half an hour. If life was as ruthless as Don’t Starve, there would be no time to play Don’t Starve, because we would all be dead.

mrgoosmoos,

having those discussions about DS on the internet a decade ago is when I realized how many people on the internet were literally just children

crapwittyname,

Masochistic children

sp3ctr4l,

Also, don’t attempt to use the term ‘mod’ as it is used literally everywhere else, with people who play GTAV/RDR2 online.

In their weird, niche vernacular, ‘mod’ = ‘hack/cheat engine’.

Harvey656, do games w Day 503 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
@Harvey656@lemmy.world avatar

Nice job making it to day 503!

dustyData, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

Changing stuff on a single player video game is not cheating.

Cheating can only exist on a competition, like on multiplayer, because you are expected to fair play with another human being.

To think that playing on your own and changing the parameters of play is cheating is a limiting and constrained, and honestly sad, point of view. It’s like punishing a kid for imagining that a toy has super powers. Extremely soul crushing and anti-creativity. If you are playing on your own, then there’s no cheat. Your play, your rules, no punishment for changing your mind. The play field exist to play, not to impose arbitrary and oppressing notions of real life judgement. You can’t cheat, when you are just playing for fun.

That said, if you cheat to make the game easier and access content that you can’t access by skill. It is not cheating, it is a failure of accessibility features. There’s nothing more stupid that the sense of gamer honor.

SoftestSapphic, do games w Do you cheat in video games?
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Cheating in multiplayer games is lame and defeats one of the main reasons people play games with each other.

There is nothing you can do to cheat in a single player game. You decide how you play single player.

Demdaru, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

If I cheat to fix a bug or bypass some weird glitch, not cheating

If I cheat for fun or to bypass part of gameloop/gameplay, that’s actually cheating and it’s fucking shameful, but as long as I play alone and don’t boast, who cares.

If you cheat and then try to boast, you’re a lying scum not worth of whatever you achieved in game. If you cheat in multiplayer, same. Any other case, whatevs. And I consider unlocking achievements via cheats boasting, that’s what they are for after all.

ApathyTree, do games w Do you cheat in video games?
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I would consider dev mode in rimworld to be cheating in a “technically it is” sort of way… spawning infant thralls that are then adopted by my colony, or spawning whatever activity site I choose are definitely not how the game is supposed to work. The mods are sort of also cheating I guess, tho most of them are content heavy… there are definitely several hacky mods in my list, like minify everything.

But while it’s cheating in a technical sense, it doesn’t impact anyone and it’s teaching me a lot about how video games function, which I find more entertaining than completing hard-coded objectives. It’s the first game I ever put a lot of mods on, and between troubleshooting and testing stuff, it’s been nearly as illuminating as rendering lag that adds each texture layer individually starting from low poly (my ps4 is having some major lag issues I’m trying to sort out, and horizon zero dawn is fascinating for this rendering issue, so so many layers! And then to realize it usually gets processed in real time! 🤯)

As for cheating in multiplayer, it hasn’t come up in decades. WoW was the last multiplayer game I played, and I stopped that when whatever the third expansion was came out. So like 2010 or so?

Bytemeister, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

Depends on the game and platform really.

Been using game cheats since IDDQD and IDKFA. I’ve never used a cheat in a multiplayer competitive game, that’s like cheating at golf. No one really cares what your fucking score is, and cheating ruins any and all accomplishment and personal validation from competing. At that point, you’re just being an asshole to other people for imaginary clout, and you should really consider what is gratifying about playing in the first place.

Datz, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

When an aspect of a game is ass (usually grinding, and I tend to be tolerant), even if I try to engage with it. Or if I’m about to drop the game anyway and cheats means seeing an ending. Last time I did was Megaman ZX, the game was already tedious and expects you to then also do a boss rush with limited ways to recover between fights, so I cheated infinite lives to get it over with.

lightnsfw, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

Only if it’s single player and there’s some bullshit time consuming part I don’t want to deal with or some bug fucks me over. I wouldn’t in multiplayer. I can’t even bring myself to murder people in arc raiders unless its self defense.

gwl, do games w A cool feature/mechanic you want to see in games again

Fun fact: some mechanics never came back cause they got copyrighted and the studio with the copyright went “no, we’re not doing that kind of game anymore” and as soon as anyone goes “okay, can we try?” they sue them into oblivion for copyright infringement

JackbyDev,

You mean patent. You don’t choose to copyright things or not, all media is inherently copyrighted. This comment is technically copyrighted once I hit send. It sounds like your referring to Shadow of Mordor’s/War’s Nemesis system being patented.

gwl,

Potato Pohtato

JackbyDev,

Copyright infringement, trademark infringement, and patent infringement are all very different.

gwl,

Cool, but the difference doesn’t matter for this context, the result is the same

JackbyDev,

The difference does matter. Two copyrighted games can have similar mechanics. Just look at literally any pair of games in the same genre. First person shooting isn’t patented, so anybody can make an FPS game. They patented the nemesis system. Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War are copyrighted.

gwl,

Cool. The result is the same.

To put it simply. I do not care

JackbyDev,

It’s a common misconception. It’s not a big deal. Why are you being so defensive about me correcting it?

gwl,

Vibes across as mansplaining, it didn’t add anything to the context

JackbyDev,

I’m not a man

gwl,

The term has the meaning now of “pointlessly explaining something in a way that’s intentionally trying to be detracting of the other party, like a stereotype of a man would do”, rather than being locked into gender

JackbyDev,

It wasn’t pointless of me to try and help you and others know the difference between copyrights and patents. It’s a very common misconception. It wasn’t detracting from your point, either. At no point did I argue that the game companies doing this are actually morally correct and that it shouldn’t bother you that the Nemesis System is patented or that Nintendo is patenting things like capturing monsters.

count_dongulus, do games w Do you cheat in video games?

I don’t, because I find that as soon as I do, the game feels permanently pointless. It’s like grinding to get some random chance item, and then someone gives you a magic menu enabling you to just put any items you want in your inventory whenever you want. Items mentally become zero value. And then any game mechanics built around scarcity and the intended emotional impact of that scarcity become permanently meaningless too.

It’s pulling back the curtain. You can’t unsee what’s going on back there. Any further interaction with the game just leaves me feeling “this is just a video game, the rules are pointless and with that menu I can get it to do whatever”. Even partial cheats, like infinite ammo with no reloading needed, break the illusion for me permanently and leave further gameplay even without cheats feeling unsatisfying and pointless.

For me, it’s rare that a game can survive its mechanics or overall gameplay loop being destroyed by cheats when those are what make games…games. You’re left with either a creative mode sandbox, or a movie, neither of which I care for in a video game format.

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