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rafoix, do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?

Fromsoft and Larian are great at this.

BioWare 20 years ago was guaranteed. We might never get another BioWare game I would purchase.

FishFace,

“Zanzibart, forgive me”.

Nah, Fromsoft has great vibes. But the worldbuilding and story is all deliberately obscured because of Miyazaki’s love of sci-fi he couldn’t properly read. That makes it a trove for obsessives but it can’t really be called good.

rafoix,

It’s definitely good and it is done in a way that can only be done in video games. Too many video games depend on passive exposition instead of finding actual lore in the world.

Kolanaki,
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So your reasoning for saying it isnt good is because you actually have to work to see it instead of it being spoonfed to you? Is that right?

FishFace,

Do you consider it being “spoonfed” to you when you read a book and the plot and everything is just written down?

Do you consider it positive that you have to “work for it” if every fifth word is written in Chinese and you have to translate them?

Making it hard to understand does not make it good. Making it easy does not make it bad. Is there an aspect of it you like that isn’t just that it’s hard to understand? Because that’s all you mentioned.

IronBird,

Do you consider it being “spoonfed” to you when you read a book and the plot and everything is just written down?

uh…no? the whole point of books is to read them

the whole point of games is to play them, if you want all the plot in your games to be reading…maybe grab a book instead?

FishFace,

Right, so if making the plot and lore obvious in a book is fine, it’s also fine in a game. Using pejoratives like “spoonfeeding” criticises this without giving any reason.

From games are particularly bad because most of the lore is on item descriptions that are often themselves locked behind random drops and easily missed questlines. This is not good world building, this is purposefully obscure world building. People mistake “hard to put together” for quality, but it’s the opposite - making this stuff harder to get makes it worse, because players are less likely to get it! If you feel too communicate the lore to most players, that’s not good!

dukemirage, (edited )

I hope you don’t mean Baldur‘s Gate when you say Larian and BioWare. edit: downvotes seem to forget that the Forgotten Realms worldbuilding wasn’t done by the licensed games.

dukemirage, do games w Day 475 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I also make sure in to visit the easter egg shrine everytime I’m playing the appartment section.

I feel like Remedy has a knack for that.

They definetely do, always a treat to explore their spaces.

i_am_not_a_robot, do games w Day 475 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
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BootyEnthusiast, do games w Day 474 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/af0e65b9-3c61-4789-88cc-49554110ced4.webp

MP2 is still a surprisingly good looking game for being a PS2 era title.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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There’s some parts where i forget that it’s PS2 era. It really feels like something from the next gen. It’s surreal

fdrc_lm, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?

Baba is you

Quazatron, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?
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Portal and Portal 2 are packed with passive aggressive remarks. One of my favorites:

Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I’m serious, that’s what it says: “A horrible person.” We weren’t even testing for that. Don’t let that horrible-person thing discourage you. It’s just a data point. If it makes you feel any better, science has now validated your birth mother’s decision to abandon you on a doorstep.

cmhe,

If you like sassy AI, take a look at ADA from satisfactory. She is insulting the player ins some way on every upgrade.

TheGuyTM3, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?
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In Drake of The 99 Dragons, each time you die, (which happens often), you get roasted and humiliated by some gods in the after life for 10 seconds before they allow you to revive again. This has absolutely no reason to be here, except for doubling the loading screen time.

Could also mention, in the 6th installment of Touhou Project, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, if you play on easy, the game won’t even let you fight the final boss, mocking your pride on such simple level, and this game mode is usually commented as child play by the games in the whole franchise.

PacMan, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?

Eternal Darkness on the GameCube

It makes the Volume go up and down and a bunch of other wacky things.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/b561815a-8332-4e61-af40-e4c23fa067e9.png

testman, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?

In Postal 2 when the Postal Dude says “Didn’t you just save?” if you savescum.

Grandwolf319,

Is it save scum or saves cum?

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing precludes you from doing both tbh

lando55,

I don’t have a spare shoebox

armpit_sweaty, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of November 2nd

just at the tail end of being obsessed with Hollow Knight (after having owned it since the Switch came out in 2017, but could never get past the 1st boss, so never played it) - since then played a bit of Elden Ring, half of Dark Souls 1, then started a bit of Silksong (beat 1st boss 1st try), but I’ve kinda hit a wall - I’ve explored the whole map except one map-region, and just have like 7 bosses to beat…

Playing Silksong now, also I started Pokemon Z-A 3 days before it was released ; on a hacked switch , hehehe

Gaxsun, do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?

Ace Combat. Seems rather dull on the face of it but goddamn are the geopolitics compelling.

deranger, do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?

STALKER. The Zone is amazing. Currently replaying Call of Pripyat for my third or fourth time through, a year after playing the shit out of Heart of Chernobyl, and I’m absolutely loving it.

Flagstaff,
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Dang. I wish I could enjoy replaying it, but nothing will capture the magic of the first time. I always love watching others experience my enjoyed titles live for their first time, though.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod, do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?
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Subnautica and Raft

SnotFlickerman,

Wait Raft has lore and world building?? I love that game but I never even paid that close attention. Guess I need to go look now.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Having played a lot of raft with my kids, I can say I never would have thought of it for this. But looking back, yeah, there is a good deal of world building going on.

EncryptKeeper, (edited ) do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?

Little Nightmares 1 & 2. Cosmic horror very well executed. No real lore is ever given to you besides what you are shown through your travels and what little environmental storytelling exists.

Everything is vaguely familiar but off. Distorted, but in a way that you’re never quite sure whether everything in the world is supposed to be like that, or if something happened to make it that way. In fact, it’s not even officially cosmic horror. There is no Cthulhu-esque big bad revealed to be behind it all. The visuals of the games could even just be interpreted as on -the-nose allegory and metaphor, with a fairytale like quality, if not for the subtle hints at a prior normality in the background.

catalyst, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?
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I would have swore there was a moment in Disco Elysium where a character makes fun of you for talking like you are trying to exhaust all the options in a dialog tree. But now I can’t find it. Anyone know?

rustydrd,
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Don’t remember that dialogue, but the OP made me think of the Jamrock Shuffle (constantly running around town like a crazy person).

catalyst,
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Yesss that was so good lol.

It’s possible I’m thinking of another game entirely on the other thing. Haha

leftzero, (edited )

Also a certain obsession with containers, if I recall correctly.

And at some point Kim mentions the detective’s surprising endurance (especially given his physical and mental state) which allows him to keep running tirelessly all over the place.

Spoilers about the later.Turns out Harry was a gim teacher before being a cop, and still has some good health from that time, despite everything that he did to himself after.

Famko,

That was during the dream sequence at the end, no? You can even correct the character saying that they’re not lists, but trees or something like that.

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