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defuru, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

As a day 1 backer i would like to offer my sincerest apologies.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Get ‘em, boys.

EdibleFriend,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

IMMA SHAVE HIS DOG

GenesisJones,

I gave them my 45$ at the beginning and said call me when it’s done.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Do you have any nachos I can murder? Or at least beat up a little?

RGB3x3, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

Is that Mark Hamill?

Kemwer,

Yes. He’s joined by Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, Mark Strong, Andy Serkis, John Rhys-Davies, Ben Mendelssohn, Liam Cunningham, and many others in Squadron 42, the story-based spinoff to Star Citizen.

… that may one day actually get released…

orvorn,

Yes, he is a major character in the single player campaign along with Gary Oldman, Mark Strong, Gillian Anderson, and others who provided voice acting and facial performance capture.

N0body,

“Hi, I’m actor Mark Hammill. You might remember me from such unfinished games as Untitled Star Wars Game 3 and Untitled Star Wars Game 7.”

Sabre363, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

What are they gonna do with that money, buy some new office paintings?

setsneedtofeed, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so happy that I’m on the sidelines of all this. I think watching is significantly more enjoyable than being part of it.

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

The older I get, the more things this is true for.

TheKracken, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I finally tried this game and holy shit is it terrible. The UI is janky and unintuitive. The movement is slow and stiff or sonic on crack and nothing in-between. The frame rate is terrible even on a decent machine with appropriate settings. Just overall a bad experience. I don’t care if it’s still “In development” get your fundamentals right before you go adding more shit.

pancakes,
@pancakes@sh.itjust.works avatar

People think you can slap on an “in development” sticker to anything and absolve it of all criticism.

yiliu,

I mean, there’s not a lot of incentive for them to change the way they operate…

Lucidlethargy,

This is exactly why “new” phones suck so hard these days. Why do good things when doing nothing is so profitable?

thorbot, (edited ) do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

How the fuck are people still falling for this scam? Oh right, half of our country worships a braindead cheeto blob. edit: Damn so many trump simps in the thread. “omg everything politik” yeah welcome to fucking lemmy

crawley,

The people who are playing Star Citizen are not the same people who are voting for Trump…weird comparison to attempt.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

not really. the essence is people are stupid and that’s the reason behind supporting trump or throwing money at star citizen

infinitepcg,

Why is it stupid to enjoy Star Citizen?

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t call it stupid to enjoy whatever SC has to offer, but I would call it stupid to spend more than 60 bucks on the game at this point…

orrk,

it’s an interesting take to defend, I would argue that the people still calling it a scam are more trump supporter like, as they are a group held together by a need to attack things they disagree with, based on some nebulous understanding of the evils it entails

Summzashi,

Americans try not to make everything about us politics challenge (impossible)

criitz,

Everything IS about US politics 😛

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

“Scam” implies that they’re not delivering the product, and they are, as in you can actually go and play it. There is actually a fair bit to do. Not overly exciting non-stop heroics, but the game is trying to simulate what life in space would be like, and does a pretty good job of it so far.

Maalus,

Are they delivering the product? I was a kickstarter backer, and still don’t have the singleplayer campaign that was promised. How long ago was that?

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Well I backed it before the kickstarter and have been playing the multiplayer on and off for a few years now.

Maalus,

Pretty sure I said “singleplayer” in response to you saying “they are delivering the product”. Which is false, since I can’t play it.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Well since it’s single player and multiplayer, yes it’s partially delivered. The kickstarter, and original crowd funding through their site, did not separate the 2 different versions, so you did, in fact, back the single player and multiplayer. It may not be the bit you wanted, but it is a part of the overall product that has been delivered.

Maalus,

I can’t play Squadron 42 like promised - ergo it wasn’t delivered. Stop being a fanboy when a fact is a fact. It’s an absolute truth, you can’t change it by weasiling around it.

Summzashi,

Lmao the copium. Your 400$ ship wasnt worth it.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

lmao i paid $45 before the kickstarter and easily had my monies worth.

orrk,

look, generally I don’t do this but, really? that’s your take? that someone spent money on a hobby? I spent more money on injection molded miniatures for DnD, what about people who go to 3-star restaurants? a package of the cheapest Walmart slop also has calories, does it not?

Unironically didn’t we agree that Protestant anti-fun shit was idiotic when we drove them out to America?

Summzashi,

There’s a lot to unpack here lol. Your first sentence says it all. Use that for future reference for everyone’s sake please.

orrk,

ya, i normally don’t shame people for not being able to spend money, but you really set a new low

Summzashi,

Is that what you were doing? Hahaha

Khalic, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

Omfg this timeline sucks soooo bad

yesdogishere, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

it's a huge success story for Star Citizen. I htink they are delighting the dreams of people who want to travel and work in space, but know they can never afford to really do so. Bethesda's Starfield is a sort of attempt to do Star Citizen, but it's just not as gritty and realistic as Star Citizen.

Skua,

With the amount some folk have spent on Star Citizen I think they actually could afford to explore space in real life

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think India landed a probe on the Moon for less money than what was spent on SC.

Skua,

Holy shit, they did. Less than half of the money, even

Lucidlethargy,

Starfield is single player, so it’s not really in the same category. Star Citizen was meant to connect people, which is why the lack of launch sucks so hard. Nobody can ever convince me it’s playable without a permanent, persistent universe for this reason.

Meowoem,

It’s a really interesting one, it’s done much better than most people expected and seems to have a very strong community. It could evolve into something really interesting in the long-term, like it’s entirely possible that twenty years from now it’ll still be going strong with a healthy user base, it might even have the scope to really embed itself and still be popular in fifty years.

I never expected it to get to where it is and I never expected it to get to any of it’s previous milestones, now I’m starting to really wonder how far it could go

Kichae, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I think I've reached the point where no one will be able to convince me that Star Citizen is not a money laundering front.

sebinspace,

I don’t know about a front, but when they have this kind of income, they have zero incentive to actually launch the damn thing, and every incentive to just keep dangling the carrot

dustyData,

In Spanish we say “música paga no suena”. Or “Paid music (service) won’t play”. As in, if you actually want the DJ, Mariachis, or band to stay the whole party, withhold payment until the end. If you pay upfront they will arrive late and leave early. They already have the money on the bag, and no legally binding responsibility to actually deliver any product. Even with this new round of crowdfunding, tomorrow they could just claim they already delivered what could be done with the money and disappear into a fiscal paradise. And not a single chump who backed up this decade long fraud would have any single recourse to fight back.

DarkGamer, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

Cause it's the game dev that never ends it just goes on and on my friends…

TIMMAY, (edited ) do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I dont have the energy to care about this game, just like I dont have the energy to care about George RR Martin or Patrick Rothfuss never finishing their products either.

PDFuego,
@PDFuego@lemmy.world avatar

Same. Until these things are physically in my hand I’ve got plenty of other stuff to get on with, what’s the point of wasting years chasing them. It’s the same with any marketing really, give me a title, pitch & release date, I’ll see you then.

deus,

Writers, no matter how good, are just regular people. I have much higher expectations and not as much patience towards a game studio with infinite money and no released games whatsoever in over a decade.

TIMMAY,

Yeah, that’s a good point, and I didnt mean to directly disparage them, only to say that at the decade point or so I just dont have the capacity to keep anticipating something entertaining. That was also my biggest reason for just not giving a shit about the avatar movie sequel. Kid me would have been all in, now I just dont care enough to spend the time money and effort on it

Lucidlethargy,

God damn fucking Patrick Rothfuss… What a beautiful story to likely never have an ending. Don’t read into it, anyone… Not unless he releases that last book.

dustyData, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

I want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and I’m not kidding.

This thing is a scam, and you’re all being taken for chumps. The only worse fraud than SC is buying Fatalities on Mortal Kombat.

TIMMAY,

that’s a fucking thing?!

dustyData,

It’s now a season bundle. But it was $10 per fatality x 3. One for Halloween, one for Thanksgiving, and one for Christmas. That was a total of $30 for a whole minute of cut-scenes. They successfully Overton it, apologized and now it’s $10 for the three scenes. But yeah, now buying Fatalities is a thing, look forward for your Easter Fatality edition and an extra Bunny skin version for only $4.99.

echo64,

There is this tiny company called Nihon Falcom. They make this game series called Trails that I adore. they have like three programmers work on each entry.

In the time since Star Citizen was announced they have released:

  • The Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails 2012
  • Ys: Memories of Celceta 2012
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2013
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II 2014
  • Tokyo Xanadu 2015
  • Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana 2016
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
  • Ys IX: Monstrum Nox 2019
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II
  • Ys X: Nordics

as well as a bunch of ports of older games to modern platforms and localizing them to the west. All of these are worth playing and some of these were GOTY material for me.

Its good to quantify how much time has passed, and how much you can get done with a smaller budget and focused scope.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

Trails into Reverie is not worth playing. Cold Steel was iffy. Trails is a shadow of its former self.

whereBeWaldo,

Call me shallow but I enjoy the fanservice ( not the naughty type, I mean when characters from the previous entries come back/get mentioned) so I enjoyed them thoroughly, Kuro 1 and 2 are also great, they bring a lot of new ideas to the table.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

Do you play indie games? They seem to be exactly what you’re describing.

dustyData,

I play mostly smaller games, and am very patient with my gaming habits. Haven’t bought a AAA game in a very long while. Still follow these kind of news because they trend set the whole industry and encroach everywhere with bad practice as big publishers represent the majority of the industry releases and also the grossest revenue.

verysoft,

People will buy fucking anything, it's hopeless.

Rokk,

I’m all for having both. I personally prefer ‘AAA’ games over indie games but I think there’s just different flavours for different folks.

That said, SC is a mega scam at this point and I can’t believe people are still continuing to fund it to this level.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, Underrail is pretty good.

orrk,

imagine a bigger game with great graphics and a whole ton of technical innovation, AND have people be paid well, that is for chumps

NOT_RICK, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

This project is baffling

weeahnn,
@weeahnn@lemmy.world avatar

don’t judge until you’ve seen the dynamic cloth physics! that is what everyone wants, right?

Lucidlethargy,

I actually will only play a game with realistic sweat and tears. Oh, they are hard at work on that?! Well FINALLY, I’m SO fucking glad. Thank you SO much, Robert’s Space Industries. You guys are definitely NOT complete hacks.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

WHERE’S THE HORSE BALL PHYSICS ON MY SPACESHIP

Khrux,

I paid for star citizen a decade ago and honestly enjoyed it enough for about 2 days. It always felt exciting to see how ahead they were of early Xbox 1 / PS4 games in their scope with volumetric effects etc.

The trouble is, 90% of their innovative content has been long overtook by general game progression, they’re making a game that could have probably launched with the PS5 and been innovative and are already falling behind there. I genuinely believe that they were Innovating their game slowly over time and there were amazing things in the works, but they missed the moment that it was exciting and new by so many years.

OttoVonNoob,

I have a friend who is obsessed with it. I asked him if it was a money laundering scheme. He agreed its the most likely situation.

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

A few of my guildmates play SC as well and they try to get other people to play, but every time an open period happens, the servers always shit the bed with instability and the play experience for the new player is awful.

It’s so funny trying to hear them rationalize bad servers and inability to do basic things as just part of the experience.

orrk,

to be fair, its issue is that they literally have a whole flood of people trying the game, like 70%+ is people just trying the game then

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s not like these free play periods are a surprise to them. They are in complete control of how hard their servers get pounded and when.

orrk,

sure, but AWS only has so many servers ready to spin up at any one time

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I’m convinced they made the game as a side project to their true goal of inventing dynamic server meshing.

We are talking about Chris “feature creep” Roberts here, though. The guy can’t stop himself from retasking a team with yet another “immersive” thing they need to waste their time on.

So who knows. Could just be bad management, but I wouldn’t put it past them to be doing this so they can license and sell the engine or something. That is, until other developers snipe their employees and use their knowledge to develop server meshing themselves.

Summzashi,

I literally cannot think of a worse way to launder money then an extremely high profile public crowdfunding campaign.

Murvel,

Laundering? They’re not even entering as investors are they, so they are not really expecting any return other that a presumably finished game at some point?

Asafum,

That and they release their financial reports every year…

The people in this thread are astoundingly hateful idiots that are just doing the groupthink thing to be part of a group that lets them feel “smarter than you.” It’s really disappointing to see this every time star citizen is mentioned, but I’ll just continue to enjoy it and then welcome all these people when it’s completed as they suddenly stop hating on it because it isn’t fashionable anymore.

setsneedtofeed, (edited )
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been part of some amateur game dev projects and SC has the vibe of an amateur project where the devs are constantly focusing on whatever catches their fancy at the moment, going back and tinkering with things they’ve already made, and sort of aimlessly scope creeping. There’s nobody to strongarm them into writing, much less following a game design document.

All of that is intuitive to me to understand.

Then there is “the dream” that is being sold to people who want this type of game. That level of very specific fandom is also easy to understand, at least from a distance. People get super into all kinds of games and spend outsized amounts of money and time.

Star Citizen is like the perfect storm of these elements.

sebinspace,

Think part of it is that Chris Robert’s comes from a time when games couldn’t be patched.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

No, there’s really no excusing this game’s development. If anything, Robert’s should have learned from Freelancer to have a tight core product that’s actually shippable.

At this point Internet nerds are locked into throwing money at Star Citizen’s development, making it the closest thing humanity has achieved to a perpetual motion machine.

Viper_NZ,

Freelancer was fantastic. It’s what convinced me to back Star Citizen back in 2012.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose I should have elaborated.

Chris Roberts begin developing Freelancer with a similar aspiration of total simulation that Star Citizen now promises.

Freelancer repeatedly overshot development timelines and Roberts was running out of money. He had to go to Microsoft for cash. Microsoft gave money to develop Freelancer in exchange for Roberts being essentially demoted to a consultant, and Microsoft taking charge. Microsoft immediately began cutting features and mechanics to turn Freelancer from an amorphous project into a shippable game.

If you know that, then seeing Roberts in charge of a new game, with no oversight and essentially infinite development time, the resulting quantum superposition state of Star Citizen’s release should not be surprising.

orrk,

ya, now it’s the people who play the game funding it instead of corporate executives, and honestly I think that’s a good thing, look at Elite Dangerous, No man’s sky (even after the patches) or Starfield, sure they might be “completed games” but can’t hold a candle to SC in it’s pre-alpha in terms of gameplay

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

What? Specifics please.

orrk,

specify what you want specifics on please?

okmko,

It’s as if the person read a parable about the Hindenburg disaster and took from it the idea that hydrogen should be the only gas used for balloons.

dustyData,

If you don’t know what you want except a nebulous dream, you can’t tell that you’re dissatisfied with what you actually have, and don’t realize that what you’re doing isn’t actually getting you anything. This applies to both the devs and the fans.

INeedMana, do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar
PlasticExistence,

Star Citizen is only available on a single platform too. At least Cyberpunk was multiplatform.

orrk,

why should they care about consoles, exactly? Especially when we know that a bunch of licensing requirements from consoles are literally giving control of your project to Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo

PlasticExistence,

It’s relevant because it’s the most expensive game ever, yet it only targets one platform. The second most (and others) can at least justify some of their expense because they’re targeting multiple platforms which does have a cost.

orrk,

ok AND? the fact that it’s the most expensive game ever already clashes with the policy of publishing with console service providers, there are drawbacks beyond cost to porting software to console, and I will remind you that both Microsoft and Sony are Running AMD64_X86 architecture so porting isn’t the difficult part.

it’s not my fault if you fall for console ports justifying price.

PlasticExistence,

Ok thanks for the reminder about something you clearly aren’t educated on.

Star Citizen fanboys, Jesus.

orrk,

what exactly am i “not educated on”?

because both the Xbox series X/S and the PS5 use AMD Zen2+RDNA2 with Zen2 being a chipset that uses the X86_64, fundamentally there is nothing much separating the two, and I will remind you the if at times buggy, Cyberpunk ports where done in just a few months towards the end of the project that spanned many years.

or maybe you meant it in regard to Microsoft and Sony having a significant amount of policy control towards licensing anything that is release on their consoles?

Furbag,

SC wouldn’t run on any console currently in production, and even if it could/did, you’d own a console several generations newer than what it was meant to play on by the time it officially released.

PlasticExistence,

That’s assuming it will eventually be released in a finished form

magic_lobster_party,

Holy moly! Squaresoft really bet hard on FF7

OctopusKurwa,

If I had just made FF6 then I’d be pretty damn confident too

M0oP0o,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Shenmue! Shenmue is on that list, wholly crap that almost as embarrassing the people here saying that the SCs fans are not being scammed. And anyone who thinks this is a scam must be brainwashed/part of a hivemind.

Wes_Dev, do games w Warframe Finally Getting Cross-Platform Save and Android Closed Beta Registration Available Now

Now, if only I could get my old PS4 save to be playable on my PC. I haven’t had a console in years. :(

Meltrax,

That’s literally what this is. As long as you have your Sony account login still, you will be able to play your account on PC.

Wes_Dev,

Thanks. I guess I should have said that I hope I don’t need a PlayStation to set up the link.

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