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Pregnenolone, do games w Starfield user score drops to "mostly positive" on steam

I think I’m just getting old. Games like Starfield are boring the hell out of me. I played it for about 1.5hrs then uninstalled it.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

I did the same thing with fallout 4, I think it’s just todd that’s boring.

Afrazzle,

It’s been in the top 10 (and often in top 5) concurrent players on steam since release so I think you just don’t like it, but many others still do.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I think it’s that other games have done cooler stuff, while Bethesda keeps making the same game with a different skin.

DCLXVI,

You must have such a refined taste to not waste more than 90 minutes on starfield. May I recommend Elden Ring or Baldur’s Gate 3 for a discerning individual such as yourself.

Delusional,

Because they’ve been making the same game just with different settings for 20+ years and it been overused. You may have fun with the game if you didn’t play the last few Bethesda games or you still enjoy that type but it is stale for most who have played fallout 3, nv, 4 and the elder scrolls games for most of their lives. There’s just nothing new.

Honytawk,

If you can already know the game is boring after 1.5 hours, the game is indeed not for you.

I thought it was yet an other boring scifi shooter, but gave it a try after seeing someone else playing it. Then I saw how much of a Star Trek TNG vibes it had.

DarkFuture, do games w The new Diablo 4 Berserk crossover skins will cost you up to $150
@DarkFuture@lemmy.world avatar

No they won’t.

ColeSloth, do games w Legendary Half-Life YouTuber plans class-action lawsuit against Ubisoft for killing The Crew

Now also make it illegal to sell physical copies of games that need day 0 patches/downloads to make them work.

I still kick on my original nes every now and then. 20 years from now when you dig out your old copy of borderlands 3 and there’s no longer a download available, you think you’ll get to play through the game?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

This is why his videos about this issue are great, he dismantles every single argument against it like “just buy physical”, The Crew has physical versions, they won’t work just like the digital one.

NaoPb,

True. Though there really are NES games that should’ve received a patch if that were possible.

A_Random_Idiot,

yeah, but how rare is that compared to today, where almost every bloody game is ridiculously broken and needing major day 1 patches… an day 2 patches, and day 7 patches.

ColeSloth,

Or even worse, the disk doesn’t even have the damned game on it to begin with. It just sets up to start the game download.

A_Random_Idiot,

Or no disk at all. Just a slip of paper with a CD key written on it that you have to type into steam.

BorgDrone,

NES games were ridiculously simple and had a tiny amount of code compared to today’s games. The less code you have, the fewer the number of bugs.

A_Random_Idiot,

Always a corporate apologist.

“Things were easier back then! You have no idea how hard it is for them to finish a game before releasing it!”

BorgDrone,

Let me guess, you haven’t written a single line of production code in your life?

Writing code is hard, writing bug-free code is neigh impossible. To give some perspective: the seL4 kernel is a formally proven microkernel, meaning they can actually prove is conforms to it’s specification. It took 3 years to write and prove this. It comprises 8,700 lines of C code and 600 lines of assembler. 9,300 lines or code in 3 years.

It is only feasible to do this for small bits of very critical code, like a microkernel. Even NASA doesn’t write code in this way.

If you wanted to do this, a game like Super Mario Bros. would probably not even be for sale, as they would still be working on it. It would probably sell for a couple of million dollars per copy.

Commercial software has in average 1 to 5 bugs per 1000 lines of code. Very critical and well tested software (think the software controlling aircraft) has maybe as little as 1 bug per 10,000 lines (and this will cost an absolute fortune to write and test).

Games have millions of lines of code and are certainly not critical. The idea that games can be bug-free is beyond absurd. Even a low number of bugs is a ridiculous ask. Or are you saying you’re willing to pay $10,000+ for a game?

A_Random_Idiot,

Ah yes, the Corporate White Knight twisting the argument and defend the poor downtrodden multi-billion dollar companies from the horrors of deserved criticism.

NaoPb,

True.

echo64,

. 20 years from now when you dig out your old copy of borderlands 3 and there’s no longer a download available, you think you’ll get to play through the game?

Yes, games often come with bugs, but a game that comes out unplayable or unbeatable on disk is extremely rare.

This is, of course, discounting the fact that as part of community preservation efforts, updates are preserved along with the games.

ColeSloth,

They aren’t extremely rare at all, bro.

echo64,

There are extremely few games that are not playable or beatable without being patched. You can list the ones you know if you like

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Now also make it illegal to sell physical copies of games that need day 0 patches/downloads to make them work.

“Sorry customers, we’re no longer selling physical releases. Court mandated that, our hands are tied.”

DigitalPaperTrail, do gaming w Steam indie hit goes against industry trends, removes all monetization

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  • optissima,

    They disabled it so they can implement it in 2 years. !remindme 2 years

    simple, do games w Meta Quest 3 demand allegedly 5 million units below expected level

    Good. Facebook tried so hard to be the leading VR company and it would’ve been terrible if they succeeded.

    Xariphon, do games w Last Epoch - Meet Diablo 4 and Path of Exile's biggest rival, an ARPG designed and built by Redditors

    $35 Early Access with unfinished story but polished cash shop really shows you where the devs priorities are.

    MonkCanatella,

    Give it a try on the high seas. I did and I ended up buying it because it really is that good. I never interacted with a cash shop in my entire time playing

    fushuan,

    … On the story. Their priority is the story. The cash shop is quite recent and the time it takes to develop isn’t even in the same universe as story content. Story content requires developing new zones, new enemy types, voice acting… They spent tons of time developing multiplayer, that’s a huge undertaking by itself where they are improving constantly. They just reworked some quests and remade the tylesets of some campaign zones. Developing the cash shop can’t have been more than 5% of the time they spent developing last year.

    Either you don’t know about development in general, you are blinded by rage with the drama they had with the release of the cash shop (which they reworked) or you are being malicious. I’m guessing 1 or 2.

    yuri,

    I’ve seen early access games that go their entire dev cycle without adding real-cash shops. this pervasive idea that microtransactions are just an acceptable thing in any new game has me absolutely incredulated.

    it doesn’t matter how long it takes to develop, putting a cash shop in an unfinished game is a bad move optics wise.

    fushuan,

    it doesn’t matter how long it takes to develop, putting a cash shop in an unfinished game is a bad move optics wise.

    Sure, but the game already has content enough to be a good single player experience for 35€ so w/e.

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    It’s also lacking. I come back every few updates but the game isn’t very good. It’s no Torchlight 2 or Grim Dawn.

    Kazumara, do games w Windows 7 and 8 now dead for gaming, as new Steam update pulls support

    The title of that article is kind of weird. It’s just wrong to claim they are dead for gaming because of a lack of steam.

    Anyone can just get Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Stardew Valley, or Anno 2070 from GoG and for each of them you can game for another 50 hours without needing steam. Or get Minecraft from their page directly and play for 100 hours. This is all without going to any retro titles.

    SynopsisTantilize,

    Minecraft is about to be a retro title.

    soul,
    @soul@lemmy.world avatar

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    xavier666,

    🧑‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀

    Voltage,

    You need to tweak a lot to get latest minecraft java version running on Windows7

    Kazumara,

    Ah sorry I hadn’t heard that they switched to Java 21 with 1.20.5

    Katana314,

    If you hate Windows 11 and don’t mind tinkering, I’d almost think Linux would be a better option especially if your preference is for retro games.

    Kazumara,

    I’ve tinkered plenty even when using Windows haha. I even have a Windows 98 and Windows XP virtual machine for some old things, but everything I care about seems to have a modern HD release, a userpatch or can be hooked with dxwnd, so I don’t use them anymore at the moment.

    But yeah probably the long term solution is Linux. Personally I wouldn’t run Windows 7 anymore. The unfixed CVE list has become quite long. I just went checking for the above titles out of principle, because I don’t like this conflation of PC gaming with only Steam.

    I still haven’t made the jump to gaming on Linux, unfortunately. Although I’ve been running a dual boot for the last 8 years or so, because I used Linux for my studies, use it for my work, and for hosting my game servers on a second computer, so I would be in a prime position… but so far I have just gone the way of least resistance, which is still Windows 10 at the moment.

    But I have a deadline now: October 2025. Just need to figure out the best distro, I don’t think I’ll use my existing Fedora KDE install for this. Maybe Arch, or one of these new immutable distros, that might be neat for when different games require different versions of libraries.

    Potatos_are_not_friends, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

    Makes sense. No need to burn bridges or salt the wound.

    Maybe Eidos would love to get another Deus ex out there but there’s no publisher interest. Passionate game developers still need financial backing to pay rent and put food on the table.

    And honestly silence is the best policy here. They probably want to stop him from fucking up before he ends up like voice actor who played Niko Bellick and say something that pisses off their parent publishers.

    slaacaa,

    Yeah, the way he talks about it does not help the chances of a new game with. I can understand the frustration of an artist that is popular worldwide, while sometimes living paycheck to paycheck doing small roles. Still, maybe he should discuss with his agent how to share his views with the press in a more positive way, to avoid biting the hand that might feed him again in the future.

    ugo,

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  • Molecular0079,

    Exactly. If companies didn’t want their workers and their customers to say stuff and make conjectures on their behalf, then they should communicate about it.

    conciselyverbose, do gaming w The Day Before parody, built by one person for $1,500, looks better than the actual game

    $1500 if you don't count any development time at all.

    Hexarei,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    Ok so even assuming $50/hr for the dev time, we’re still only talking $16,500

    conciselyverbose,

    That's a very different number than $1500.

    Volkditty,

    It’s only one extra number.

    superduperenigma,
    c0mbatbag3l,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    That was just the assets he purchased, but yeah even if we are being generous in terms of salary how did someone put together a better game with like 1% of the time and resources?

    geissi, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

    Baldur’s Gate 3 boss

    Wow, Larian really breaking the 4th wall in this game.
    One of those boss fights where you really regret having to fight him because he actually has a good point.
    Probably still evil though.

    quams69, do games w 'The Witcher 4 will channel the “freedom” of CDPR’s Cyberpunk 2077'

    Lmfao what “freedom”

    shartedchocolate,

    Seriously does anyone know what they’re talking about or is this just marketing bs?

    Jaysyn, do games w Redfall can be the next Cyberpunk 2077, if Microsoft wants it to be.
    @Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

    Delusional.

    Demigod787, do games w Valve gives Steam Remote Play a long overdue upgrade

    Wonder how this would compare to moonlight + sunshine combo.

    emogu,

    Exactly what I was thinking. I’m still running on the fumes of gfe+moonlight while thats still working. Hopefully Steam RP has taken cues from all the recent competition.

    But as with all RP options it’s probably still gonna be a ymmv situation.

    CarlosCheddar,

    One plus of remote play is that I can set the controller bindings via Steam Input. On moonlight I wasn’t able to do the same since it just seemed to emulate an xbox controller.

    Pika, do games w MW2 remastered multiplayer mod shut down by Activision day before launch
    @Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

    really re-enforcing the fact that I will never buy a COD game again. It’s not like they used to be and it looks like it’s intentional at this point.

    ioslife, do games w Baldur’s Gate 3 boss says gamers don’t want mass subscriptions

    He’s right

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