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Faydaikin, do gaming w Every Bethesda RPG, ranked from worst to best
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

It’s all a matter of personal taste. But yeah, Beth’s best games are definitely in the past.

t3rmit3,

People will point at Skyrim and Morrowind to showcase how much better their older games were, but pretend Oblivion didn’t happen. :P

Faydaikin,
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Oblivion is the weird transition point, ngl.

cnnrduncan,

Personally I feel that way about Morrowind - mechanically it’s like a stripped down, worse version of Daggerfall while also being an inferior implementation of a fully 3d game than Oblivion.

t3rmit3,

Morrowind is imo the best from a gameplay mechanics perspective. The utility magic alone was such a huge loss for future games.

I could cast levitation, walk up to the moon prison, magically open the lock, use chameleon to sneak inside, steal stuff from 30 feet away with telekinesis, and if the guards find me, jump down with slowfall and then escape underwater with waterbreathing.

cnnrduncan,

Daggerfall has most of that, and has extra stuff like the ability to climb walls without magic! IMO the dice-roll combat also feels way better in Daggerfall than in Morrowind.

1simpletailer, (edited )
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Of all the TES games Oblivion has aged the worst. If you didn’t play it at the time its really hard to be objective about it now. Too much Bloom and ugly potato faces combined with its floaty, clunky combat make it a chore to play today. Game had some great quest writing though and Shivering Isles is a GOAT expansion. It also has an undeniable, if somewhat unintentional, goofy charm to it that I love.

At the time a lot of Morrowind fans hated it for going against established lore and “dumbing down” the series, but it did well critically and was generally well received by the public. It got a lot of people, including myself, into the series. I went back and played Morrowind and loved it so I can see a lot of Oblivion’s weaknesses more clearly, but I still have a soft nostalgic spot for it in my heart.

Faydaikin,
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I absolutely agree with you. And I did play it back when it came out.

There’s a few more things that goes in the “Meh”-pile of changes Oblivion brought to the table. Like the boundless fast-travel system and streamlining magic (although I did like the quick-cast mechanic. But that got scrapped as fast as it was implemented with Skyrim) and so on.

Halosheep,

Oblivion is my personal favorite so definitely up to personal interpretation.

cnnrduncan,

Yeah personally I reckon that Oblivion and Daggerfall are the two best TES games ever made - both are better than Morrowind, and significantly better than Skyrim.

I also reckon that Starfield will be up there with Oblivion and Daggerfall a couple years after the modding tools are released!

teawrecks,

Yeah, as someone who hasn’t played Starfield and has no interest in playing it, all their criticisms were just saying they didn’t care for the style starfield was going for. Which is fine, but that doesn’t make it a bad game.

It could be that “NASA punk” is boring to 99/100 people, but that doesn’t mean a game in that style is bad. I think we can all agree that games that are enthralling to a very niche set of people are a good thing, because we all want that game to be for us. We don’t want or expect every game to be equally enthralling to every person.

Faydaikin,
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For me, the “NASA punk” wasn’t the turn off.

Starfield could have been a great game. But the general route Beth has taken with Fallout, and continued in Starfield, doesn’t appeal to me. Pointless building filler, environmental storytelling over actual storytelling, radient quests everywhere and so on.

I have no doubt they’ll do the same with TES. Just half-assing it really. Skyrim was already pretty flat, so…

teawrecks,

Yeah, Morrowind was mind blowing when it came out. Then I skipped Oblivion, and Skyrim, mechanically, wasn’t that much of a leap over Morrowind. Sure it looked better and had voice acting, but it still feels like a static world. I wouldn’t consider Witcher 3 to be quite the same genre as TES, but imo W3 raised the bar for my expectations from Bethesda. So far I think they still have not made a game as good as W3.

Faydaikin, (edited )
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

Witcher 3 is a CDProjectRed game.

I don’t think Beth’ is capable of making a game even close to The Witcher 3. XD

scrubbles,
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No don’t you understand? They gathered two other people, who work directly with them reviewing games the same way they do. If they don’t like it it means it’s a bad game. Obviously!

paddirn, do games w AI in big budget games is inevitable, say dev vets from Assassin's Creed and Everquest 2: 'Developers hate it … the money is still going to drive absolutely everybody to do it'

It could be interesting for procedurally generated games. Imagine a world with no fixed map, settlements where every person is completely unique and will talk to you about any subject you want to talk to them about (instead of the same canned phrase or two), a completely different roster of baddies to fight every time, maybe even the storyline itself never plays the same each time, or the style of play changes from game to game. I’m hopeful we’ll start to see some truly unique games with AI helping out, though I’m guessing we’ll get a mountain of shovelware that just uses AI to generate shitty non-sensical art assets and meaningless dialogue.

glimse,

Have you played/seen Vaudeville? It’s a detective game where every character had their own LLM and TTS trained for a specific personality.

It’s super janky and I never finished it because I kept getting conflicting info from characters but…it’s a really great use case for it. The massive caveat being that it requires an Internet connection.

metaStatic,

The massive caveat being that it requires an Internet connection.

Like literally every game released in the last decade

glimse,

I had two replies in my inbox. One was yours and the other was about people unnecessarily adding “literally” to their statements lol

Zellith,

Ive been playing games all week in offline mode. In fact I prefer it so it stops updates breaking my mods. Come at me.

glimse,

How can you do that when they said LITERALLY every game?!

Nepenthe,
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

AI-generated maps and NPCs might be ok. Ditto fights, though there would have to be playtesters whose job it is to make sure the result is something winnable and acceptably fair.

The main issue there would be that there IS no continual certainty of that. You'd have to either be able to rerolled entire encounters — which would be jarring — or force the AI to DM what happens when you lose an impossible battle — far more rewarding, provided it doesn't keep doing it. But it may keep doing it. This would be impossible to ever test adequately. Every game on the market may be a hard mode Bethesda game.

I personally really don't think I'd enjoy something with a randomly generated cast/main story for the same reason I wouldn't be interested in owning one singular book whose writing changes every time you read it. I don't play to kill time; I play for the stories and I get attached like hell to the good ones. I replay them ad nauseam because I miss the characters.

I think it would be an intensely entertaining idea either as a New Game+ or for those games to have a wildcard setting that you could turn on and off. That way, there's no lack of devs who get to tell the tale they wanted and players can mix it up when they're bored. Otherwise, you've downgraded the job of the entire company to filling the AI in on background lore and nothing else.

Other aspects:

• for those that do get attached and wanna re-experience it, you'd need a way to save the information behind the game you just played. That file might be fairly gigantic?

• Would also lead to a weird market for other peoples' saves. The way modders already make quests, but for an entire plot.

• NPCs and party members that all look like randomized sims.

newthrowaway20, do games w Cities: Skylines 2 devs warn players of performance problems: 'we have not achieved the benchmark we targeted'

Personally, I think I would prefer they hold the game back and do whatever patches or updates they need to help with performance, rather than release a game they know is buggy. I guess it’s nice that they’re actually telling us before people buy the game, and they will be releasing updates. But frankly to me this feels like they’re going to be fighting an uphill battle when they launch the game. Plenty of people won’t see this message, and just buy the game expecting it to work, then turn sour due to the poor performance. You could end up with people refunding the game and never coming back with stuff like that.

lorty,
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Sry, release date sales are already on the book

Sneptaur, do games w AMD responds to public demand: Radeon RX 6000 owners can now enjoy Fluid Motion Frames too
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

Is this exclusive to windows or does it work on Linux and macOS as well?

cisco,

Would love to know this as well

neveraskedforthis,

Matter of time until it’s included in GameScope.

CarlsIII, do games w Dave the Diver gets crabs and lobsters this month, among other new stuff, in its first content update

Dave the Diver gets crabs

conciselyverbose, do games w Grand Theft Auto 6 fans have become so desperate for information they've convinced themselves that the moon is teasing an upcoming reveal

I would absolutely add 20 super obscure conspiracy nut teasers to every promo and just never acknowledge anything if I was working for one of these companies.

sugar_in_your_tea,

You don’t even need to try very hard, just throw in some nonsense and someone will make up a plausible explanation.

Kolanaki,
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just posts “a” to the company Twitter

conciselyverbose,

I'm talking like throwing some messages in binary through specific set of sub pixels of images for a year that all come through because they're my actual plans, then switching them to obviously insane nonsense that will take way longer to disprove and finding a way to get someone to notice.

oddspinnaker,

I’m always curious about how hard it is to make insane nonsense that’s hard to disprove. Like, 100% randomization seems like it could be easier to detect vs. more believable things added by people.

So then you have to spend time making it believable…

conciselyverbose, (edited )

I was thinking kind of like steganography.

"If you take the green subpixel at (46,85), (75,32)... it contains just enough letters you could read as words that form a story detail. And in this post it's a gameplay hint. And this one is a character name" but the same locations enough times in a row that it's hard to be random. Then post a crazy fan theory post after the early ones are known facts about the game and I've embedded crazy shit in a few.

NegativeLookBehind,
@NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social avatar

Nut teasers, you say?

Zehzin, do games w CCP knows Dust 514 should never have been a console exclusive: 'If we had been on PC the whole time the game would literally be alive'
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

I played that thing and I sincerely doubt that, unless it was made into completely different game that isn’t ass

Aurenkin, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

I didn’t see a source for the statistic in the article which is a bit disappointing as I’m really interested to learn more about it. It seems pretty high but also there’s quite a lot of uncertainty built into it.

From my experience with VR I found I got sick after a long enough time but was able to get my ‘vr legs’ and have much longer sessions even on more intense games like Windlands where you swing around like Spiderman (super fun if you have the stomach for it).

The other thing to note is that for me at least it’s a spectrum. It’s not just ‘VR makes me sick’ but it depends a lot of the game or activity and there are a bunch of ways for games to try and reduce it. It does take time to get used to some of them though.

Hopefully things become better with time and more folks get to enjoy it because it’s a lot of fun in my experience.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

but it depends a lot of the game or activity

Yea, some games I can play for hours.
Others make me feel weird after a few minutes.

I can spend a ton of time in Alyx, or doing barrel rolls and corkscrews in Star Wars Squadrons.
I have a hard time finishing a level in After the Fall.

Daefsdeda,

I have had a lot of friends over and try it and since they are making up their statics I will do a statistic purely based of my experience. About 5% of VR triers experience nausea when the frame rate isn’t smooth in a moment of movement.

Afrazzle,

Jet Island was the game for me that grew my VR legs, Windlands sounds similar except you also have Ironman thrusters and a skate board. After that I could then spend hours in dirt rally 2.0 which poetically would’ve gave me a bad headache before.

sugar_in_your_tea,

I don’t think VR is going to work for us. My SO and I get carsick really easily, and my SO gets sick playing or watching FPS games on a normal screen. It’s mitigated somewhat by adjusting FOV and higher refresh, but it still causes issues within an hour (usually like 30 min).

I wonder how much of this statistics are from people like us, for whom even “tame” things like being a passenger in a car can cause motion sickness.

Zoldyck, do games w I'm so glad I waited nearly 3 years to play Cyberpunk 2077, but I dread the fact that this is our new normal

The only way the industry will learn is to simply not buy any if the shitty games. Plenty of other games out there that are worth it.

WHYAREWEALLCAPS,

Like games that came out three years before!

lowleveldata, do gaming w Elon Musk demanded a cameo in Cyberpunk 2077 while wielding a 200 year old gun: "I was armed but not dangerous"

Can we kill him?

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

You can, let us know how you get on champ!

muse, (edited )
@muse@kbin.social avatar

He's violently murdered in game and you get to stuff his body in a trash chute. And you get paid for it. 10/10

Chozo,

I would reload that save over and over and over.

luciferofastora,

I saw a streamer do that once with a character they absolutely despised. Save, kill, reload, kill, reload, kill, reload a couple times until they finally had it out of their system.

bermuda,

Me with Preston in Fallout 4. Another settlement needs our help? No, Preston, I think your body no longer needs your head.

InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w GeForce Now is shutting down in Russia
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

550 something days late

Cavemanfreak,

550 something days into a planned three day special operation.

Jdreben, do gaming w 'Dad, people are sending me pictures of bears': Baldur's Gate 3 boss Swen Vincke 'wasn't ready' for the bear sex scene to go so viral

Bear sex. Not what I would expect from this game but I haven’t played any in the series. It does make me want to play it just to see how this fits into the story tbh. Good marketing.

Pyro,

It’s a different dev then others.

Its a side story were you can romance the companions your with, n the main story little to no impact

Jdreben,

Amazing. Love those kinds of side quests. Reminds me of Mass Effect.

iNeedScissors67,
@iNeedScissors67@kbin.social avatar

Bioware made the previous Baldur's Gate games so that makes sense lol

teydam,

It fits right in. great RPG game has great elements that are expansive. part of the sell indeed.

FlashMobOfOne,
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That isn’t even close to the weirdest sex scene you can barge in on in the game.

But I won’t spoil it for you.

stopthatgirl7,
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If it’s the one I’m thinking of, where you quite literally barge in on…oh, I could have done without that one. Hooooboy.

Dalek_Thal,
@Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone avatar

Still got that one burned into my brain. Not to mention the joke Gale made there. Christ on a bike…

stopthatgirl7,
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I didn’t have Gale with me for that one; what did he say?

Dalek_Thal,
@Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone avatar

Paraphrasing, as I don’t remember his wording: “Crap, a half-ogre in the making!”

stopthatgirl7,
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Ahh, ok, that line, or a variant of it, gets said by someone in the party. In mine, Lae’vel said, “Let’s not disturb a half-orc in the making.”

FlashMobOfOne,
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I’m sure we’re thinking the same thing.

FlashMobOfOne, (edited ) do gaming w Bards are Baldur's Gate 3's best class and I can't imagine playing it as anything else
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Bard player here.

Bards are objectively the best if you want the full breadth of options to move the story around. If you want to kick ass in combat or sling more spells, other classes are better at those aspects of the game, but Bards are going to give you a lot more to play with in terms of the RP.

Not spoiling anything either, but you can always try bard and change your class later, as there is a mechanic in the game for that.

ConstableJelly,

Bards are going to give you a lot more to play with in terms of the RP.

Is that just because of the charisma? If so, then presumably paladins and warlocks could match them. Or is there more?

DonnieDarkmode,

“I ask thee again: what is the value, of a single PC level?”

Jaysyn, do gaming w Videogame fantasy settings are staler than mouldy bread right now
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

You've not played Caves of Qud, I see.

Erk,

Only stuck to a specific subset of AAA games I’m fairly sure

HazardousBanjo, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

Star Citizen may very well be the single greatest argument for Scrum Masters on Dev teams.

Talk about infinite scope, holy shit.

sheogorath,

Competent Scrum Masters, 95% of the Scrum project that I’ve been part of caught on fire is because of an ass PO and an incompetent SM who can’t rein in the PO.

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