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dogslayeggs, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

A couple years ago my non-gamer girlfriend came home from work and asked if I had ever seen the Leroy Jenkins video since I used to play WoW. I was like, “yes, yes I know about that video.” She thought it was hilarious even though she had no idea what it meant.

roscoe, (edited )

My wife loved it too even though she didn’t play MMOs, but she had a basic understanding from hearing me talk about them.

She couldn’t get enough of the DKP minus video from around the same time, although I did have to explain DKP because none of my groups used it.

JustAnotherKay,

I did have to explain DKP

“So basically imagine if capitalists distributed loot”

EncryptKeeper,

There’s an app called Active911 used by first responders like EMS and firemen to receive dispatch pages in lieu of a physical digital pager, and as far back as I can remember one of the selectable alert tones alongside various beep patterns, horns, and klaxons, was a recording of Leeroy Jenkins’ famous yell lmao

grrgyle, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

They just don’t make memes like they used to, and none of us can just run in without fearing the wrath of strangers. The folks who take games too seriously won.

Maybe not everywhere, but multiplayer games for sure have more serious elements to them than I ever thought.

In a way, this is what I wanted back in the 90s when so few people understood the potential of video games as a serious art form.

gradual,

In a way, this is what I wanted back in the 90s when so few people understood the potential of video games as a serious art form.

Same, but definitely not for competitive multiplayer games. That’s the antithesis of the direction gaming should go in.

Instead, we should’ve moved more towards co-op. Gamers would be happier and healthier, which is why it was decided they should not appreciate it.

I genuinely feel bad for all the people getting suckered into wasting hundreds of hours in a game like fortshit just because it’s free and their loser friends got suckered into playing it, too. They have no idea what’s happening around them. If they ever realize it, it will likely be too late.

Flemmy, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere
yoriaiko,

Ya rly!

Metostopholes,
@Metostopholes@midwest.social avatar

NO WAI!

other_cat,
Denjin, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

internet’s oldest memes

2005

Dancing baby would like a word

Visstix,

Yeah that’s maybe youtube’s oldest meme (probably not), not the internet.

robolemmy,
@robolemmy@lemmy.world avatar

Dancing baby was way before youtube existed

Dorkyd68,

There was a lady lawyer show on TV called ally mcbeal and she was like crazy or something and used to hallucinate the dancing baby. I don’t remember it that well as it was an old people show and I was a kid but yeah way before youtube

Denjin,

Dancing baby was everywhere, truly the first Internet driven viral phenomenon. And yes, it did feature in Ally McBeal which was a huge TV show mid-late 90s which goes to illustrate how truly viral the dancing baby meme was at a time where Internet usage was still limited to only a minority of people with access to desktop computers.

Visstix,

I meant leroy, not the baby.

robolemmy,
@robolemmy@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, sorry. Context is not my strong suit

FooBarrington,

One of. Not the oldest meme, one of the oldest.

grrgyle,

Chewbacca would like a word.

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

Chewbacca ate my balls.

grrgyle,

You get it

samus12345,

Yeah, dancing baby was 1996, 9 years before 2005, which is an eternity in internet years. Leeroy is one of the internet’s older memes, sure, but way too new to qualify as one of the oldest.

Cocodapuf,

All your base are belong to us.

Make your time…

ms_lane,

Mushroom Mushroom

GissaMittJobb,

one of

Denjin,

10 years…

SomethingBurger,

20

Denjin,

10 years between Dancing Baby and Leeroy Jenkins

CrowAirbrush,

Dancing baby was a mere screensaver, no?

prole,

Lol for real… This title made me feel old

MLX, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

He’s done a couple new ones, exact same format and theme song and everything. It was surreal having that pop up in front of me.

molten, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

Wish leeroy wasn’t staged man. Biggest disappointment.

grrgyle,

We’ll always have the memories from before we knew.

mostlikelyaperson,

Yeah, often learning anything more than the meme itself is that way, if only because you often find out about the rather sad route many of those early viral meme people went down.

JeeBaiChow,

The internet: manufacturing ‘spontaneity’ for laughs and karma for the past 30years.

madjo, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

Wait, what? Ask A Ninja uploaded a new video?!

It’s been - what? - 14 years since the last one…

Is the internet coming back alive again? Is nature healing?

GeeDubHayduke,

Ask a ninja is back! He’s been uploading at least once a week for a couple weeks now.

Nibodhika,

I get what you meant but a couple means 2, so someone uploading once a week for a couple of weeks means he uploaded 2 videos, which could just be coincidence, not a pattern.

pezhore,

Homestar Runner released a video too!

Coelacanth, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Man, reading that old 2005 PC Gamer article really brings me back to older, better and happier times of gaming journalism too. It even mentions the bundled DVD with demos, mods and goodies you’d get each month. Those really were the days.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Sure but… I’m subscribed to Humble Monthly. So instead of getting a CD with a magazine containing a bunch of demos, I get a bunch of keys for full games. A lot of them pretty neat indies.

For gaming news… Well, on Lemmy there’s this guy.

bagelberger,

Not a guy

gradual,

Those really were the days.

Before analysts had as much data to take advantage of people’s low standards.

MuskyMelon, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

Still one of my favorite memes of all time.

Varyk, do games w WoW's Leeroy Jenkins, one of the internet's oldest memes, turns 20 years old—and after looking back on what we wrote in 2005, I feel like we've failed Leeroys everywhere

hahahha oh man, I’ve never seen that. that’s really funny.

Akasazh,
dbtng, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'
@dbtng@eviltoast.org avatar

Hehe. So, I’ve got 243 hours into Starfield. Level 45.
For me, the game is side quests, killing bad guys all over the place, and taking over as many ships as I can.
I’ve completely ignored the main mission. Haven’t really done any crafting other than upgrading weapons. I started a base and forgot where its at.
The companions are all horrid. I hang out with the robot guy. He’s got good guns.
I use Heller’s Cutter, Arc Welder, and Auto-Rivet. Nothing else. Seemed fitting for a miner. And people burn real good.
I mostly don’t use ship storage except for uncommon stuff. I go through the ridiculous torment of tossing all my junk on the ground in a hold of my ship. Silly fun.
I don’t do a lot of space combat. I’ve got a stack of Class C ships whenever I get around to optimizing them. At some point that will be a new piece of the game that I’ll play.

I may never pursue the main mission. Looks kinda dumb. Can’t tell you exactly what I’ve found fun in this game where I’ve opted out of most of the game. But … every now and then I quicksave and just start burning down all the civilians. A lot of em won’t die. But I keep trying. And then I load my save, because I want to be able to land there again.

spooky2092,

I may never pursue the main mission. Looks kinda dumb.

It very much is, and the ‘ending’ was enough for me to drop the game and uninstall it same day. I barely made it to the end, and goddamn was it not worth it.

dbtng,
@dbtng@eviltoast.org avatar

I don’t really want any magic powers or some final culmination. If I’ve used the (100 cells!) on my cutter, you get to meet my welder, and if you’re out of reach, eat some rivets. I’m not playing some bad guy, but almost the entire game for me is bloodshed, up close, and hardcore. Ya fuk the main mission.

theblips, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

Bethesda is such a garbage company. No idea why people buy these half assed games

jsomae,

Because we all loved morrowind…

lightnsfw,

I certainly did. That good will got me buying their games up through Fallout 4 which finally crushed it. Didn’t even look at Starfield.

Critical_Thinker,

I bought it on pre-release on steam and refunded it right before go live.

Love how try before you buy works now. Charge me for early access to play a couple days early? Well shucks… guess I get a free trial period.

By the end of the weekend I was disillusioned. No meaningful exploration in a space game is insane.

slaneesh_is_right,

I never really understood that. Everyone hyped up skyrim so hard and when i played it it was… Meh? It was all grey and jank that apparently is enjoyable for some people.

I really liked new vegas and when fallout 4 came out, i never watched a trailer or anything, but i was sick on release day, so on that day, i watched the release trailer and thought why not. I was truly shocked how god damn ugly the game was and how shallow and broken it was.

People had high hopes for starfield and i thought i was taking crazy pills. It’s just the same thing again but somehow even worse. I think i just don’t get it.

ArchmageAzor, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

The problems of Starfield, the ones that prevent it from being great even if only through modding, are engine-level problems. Those can’t be fixed without remaking the entire game from scratch in a new engine, and nobody wants to do that.

Maybe in a couple decades we’ll get Starfield Remastered made in UE9.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Not really an engine problem, but Bethesda not caring to make the setting even remotely believable and making the mechanical parts feel isolated and meaningless is what hurts the game the most.

Exploring and collecting materials almost serves a purpose, as you need them to craft/upgrade armor and weapons, or to create stuff around your base, but you can just buy the stuff you need off vendors, which makes both the exploration and the point of having a base pointless. Crafting is almost something you might care about, but you can buy pretty much anything you need off vendors (heal kits, drugs) or get them as drops. None of the crafting targets the ship or its parts, for whatever reason.

If the game was just Dungeon -> Vendor -> Dungeon loop, it’d be much, much better rated and less hated. The lack of variety is felt very early on anyway, it’s not like cutting the bullshit would make it worse to endure.

Also, considering how nearly everyone using UE besides Epic themselves seem to do a really shitty job, including Bethesda with Oblivion Remaster, I’d expect that SF remaster to be even worse than the original 😆

ILikeBoobies, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

¯*(ツ)*/¯ non-FOSS software shouldn’t expect volunteers

andros_rex,

Fans patching the Bethesda games is as at least as old as Daggerfall, if not earlier. Daggerfall didn’t have Helseth and Barenziah as Dark Elves until fans fixed it. Pickpocketing in Morrowind is broken unless you use the code patch. The Oblivion leveling problem punishes you for playing the game.

Like every guide for every Bethesda game is going to start with download this unofficial patch, and the unofficial patches for the DLC, and this installer. They’ve relied on fans and treated the community like it’s an FOSS community, without realizing that without good product, the volunteers won’t come.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but that shouldn’t be the norm, or an expectation, of the developer. “Oh, we don’t need to worry about the game, the fans will just mod it and it’ll bring us lots of money!”

digdilem, do games w Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

<Reads all the other comments>

Ok, but apart from that, it’s okay, right?

Seriously - what is a good space exploration/trading game that doesn’t require a huge learning curve? (I’m not a fan of flying stuff and too much trading is boring, but I do like exploring)

ILikeBoobies,

Have you tried No Man’s Sky or Elite Dangerous?

Where do they land on your scale?

RememberTheApollo_,
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

E:D has a pretty steep curve, there’s a ton of external information that needs to be absorbed to get the most out of the game, and then once you get into it, you discover that “it’s lightyears wide, and one inch deep”. That said, I gotta hand it to the devs who are constantly trying to keep it interesting. I earned my carrier, thought “and then…?” and that was kinda it. Might give NMS a try just for something different.

digdilem,

I bought NMS when it was released, and hated it. Ok, it’s legendary as something that was released before it was ready and that undoubtedly spoiled it for me - endless running and nothing to do, and I’m sure it’s better now.

Elite Dangerous was quite fun for a while, but I got frustrated with the flying aspect quite a bit and after several deaths I gave up. I’m old enough to remember the first Elite, which was even more unforgiving.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I second No Man’s Sky.

But if you want something a lot more serious, a proper simulator, but also requires time to learn (for when you get bored of the simplicity of No Man’s Sky), maybe give X4 a shot.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Ok, but apart from that, it’s okay, right?

No. Not by a long shot. You’re better off playing Fallout 4.

what is a good space exploration/trading game that doesn’t require a huge learning curve?

Freelancer. It’s old (2003), but it’s still effectively the Explore/Trade/Fight space sim that every other game gets compared to. I’ll note that it’s focus is on getting good combat ships and flying around, exploration exists but is the least developed aspect, I’d say. Gotta get it thru the high seas, tho.

Evochron Legacy is an indie game that might scratch your itch, it also lets you fly into planets’ atmospheres and it accounts for the friction, so while you can fly fast, doing so will damage your ship. I don’t think its learning curve is too steep, but it can take some time to get used to. Try the demo before buying it, as one negative review suggests

Lastly, check out Underspace’s demo. Still in Early Access, but seems promising.

digdilem,

Freelancer sounds interesting - I started searching and landed on the Amazon page for it, which told me " You last purchased this item on 29 Apr 2005". I have no recollection of the thing, but then I have played a lot of games. Still, worth a revisit - I’ll take a look. Thanks.

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