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justlemmyin, do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed

Bit it doesn’t even work on linux, basically DOA for me.

Grass,

supposedly doesn’t work on windows either if you play valorant ar maybe other games with similar anticheats competing for the same system area no video game shoud have control over

rozodru,

ah so that post I saw the other day saying “begun the kernel wars have” makes senses. someone posted the fact they couldn’t play BF6 cause Valorant was installed.

Grass,

yeah. I’ve been wondering when this would happen since spore. Took longer than I expected really.

yermaw, do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed

Server browsers are the better experience for me. Jump in a game and its already going, less pressure to stay because there’s no matchmaking ban/penalties. Everyone is there primarily to have fun because KD WL MMR ELO isnt being logged. If im desperately outclassed, or life gets in the way, I can just quit with no guilt or punishment. If im having a good time i can stay with mostly the same people for a long time.

Thats before you even get into the technicalities and longevity considerations.

rozodru,

Plus it’s great if the server is made specifically for a map you really love. Like TFC/TF2 with say 24/7 2fort. I love me some 2fort and yeah I will play it for hours on end, it’s comfy.

shadowedcross, do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed
@shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works avatar

I want servers so I can avoid playing maps I don’t like… Looking at you Siege of Cairo.

poolhelmetinstrument, do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed
@poolhelmetinstrument@lemmy.world avatar

More like a real server browser with real self hosted dedicated servers. Couldn’t imagine mods at this point

Baggie, do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed

I miss community servers terribly.

scrubbles, do games w Battlefield 6 players are crying out for a 'real' server browser, and it's about time we demanded the basic FPS feature that Call of Duty killed
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God yes. I would rather have a few popular servers over endless empty matchmaking

Katana314, do games w Arkane employees demand Microsoft sever ties with Israeli military: 'We don’t want to be part of this sinister project for Gaza'

What sucks on my end is that this has only been the latest in a long chain of reasons to boycott Microsoft - so I can’t exactly claim, if they take a step back from “Systematically murdering innocent people” then I’ll go back to giving them money.

Blackmist, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

“we haven’t worked out where to shoehorn the micro-transactions in yet”

slaneesh_is_right,

It does wound an aweful lot like the whole skate. Situation. We really want to make the best game possible and we really care for customer feedback. Hmm turns out they really didn’t and just try to sell micro transactions

MangioneDontMiss, (edited ) do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

I worked at 2k when they first started making this game back in 2017 - and I worked in VERY close proximity to the studio making this game.

So bullshit. Its taking so long because take two is run by indecisive, cheap, executives who have pretty much taken the studio that was making it, based in Novato, CA - KILLED IT - and moved almost the entirety of production over to Canada because its cheaper.

Its taking a long time because it takes a long time to kill a team, remake a team, and then restart production from the ground up. Pipelines take years, and in most cases, multiple titles to optimize/streamline. The executives running this show can’t decide what to do with the game and they have already basically killed an entire team in order to reform it in a cheaper country. These are executives that just do not know how to let a team run itself. They are far too hands on and they don’t know shit about actual production.

Take two also basically gutted the other studio they had in Novato, Hangar 13, which was working on a 3rd person action RPG code named VOLT. They worked on that game for around NINE YEARS. Before completely cancelling it. (Does anyone know what its like to work on something for nine years and have absolutely NOTHING to show for it?) But before they cancelled it they layed off the team that was working on it multiple times in order to move Hangar 13 from its primary location of Novato, CA over to, in large part, the czech republic, and UK. Both places substantially cheaper for making games.

The czech republic is actually the boom town of the game industry right now because its so fucking cheap. So many game studios have been made and reformed over there.

And people wonder why so many US game devs are being laid off. Its all executive greed. All of it. – And if you believe this is taking so long solely because of “Quality” - you are kidding yourself.

dukemirage,

It‘s naive but I‘m not really mad that some of those jobs are in Europe now.

MangioneDontMiss,

You’ll be happy to know that none of the exec jobs moved over to Europe. They’re still right over there in Novato.

AngryCommieKender,

That just means that we know their addresses

Shayeta,

Ah, so 2k is like the ship of Theseus. Except they’ve blown up the original one and replaced it with a crude replica.

nickwitha_k,

Fuck. My wife did work with Hanger 13 a while back. Really cool place and good people.

TheFogan, do gaming w Steam for Chromebooks is getting axed in 2026 instead of exiting its 4-year beta

While I hate googles tendency to kill everything I have to ask, did google really promise chromebooks as a gaming system? I always understood them as dirt cheap computers made to handle the basics of word processing and average web based applications. Ideal only to be school or work computers

scintilla,

Maybe not gaming but they did and have been selling higher spec laptops for a while.

TheFogan, (edited )

Honestly I think that’s the constant problem of every “low cost computer” setup that comes out. They start out with an understanding of what they are… a cheap disposable alternative for doing the basics, after getting some momentum in that they cry about the lack of profit margins, keep adding to it to justify pricing them the same as regular laptops, but at the fundamental level do far less and they don’t sell for crap at that price.

Like say netbooks, it’s so commonly assumed the ipad killed the netbook… as a former netbook owner I disagree. I bought an acer aspire 1 when they were on sale for like $100, it was a really low powered, basic windows system. If I recall it was running win XP in the vista era. For me it was a good choice, a nice note taking, word document writing and basic web browsing computer with a decent battery life, and tiny enough to slip in a bag with little work.

I worked at staples at the time, and if I recall they were around $200 regular price, but frequently on sale for 100-150, and when they went on sale they sold like hotcakes. They had other netbooks in the 300-500 price range… I don’t think I ever saw one sell, and to this day I don’t get the appeal. You’d need more hardware if you were say, editing graphics… or playing games, or doing something more complex, but why would you do those things on a 10" screen. Same price you could buy a real laptop, bit bigger, but more importantly a comfortable screen size and a full sized keyboard. So in short, the netbooks went from a cheap option that can do the the main fundimentals of a PC slightly worse, for 1/3rd the price. To a… laptop that could do 80% of what a laptop can, on an uncomfortably tiny screen, for 100% of the price.

around the same time the ipad came out… for $500, the netbooks shifted their focus, more and more models in the $300-$700 price range. Nebooks shifted to being what I would effectively describe as… small little boxes, that do most of what a laptop does, much worse with a tiny screen… for the same price, maybe a bit more when comparing spec for spec.

Honestly i see the same with chromebooks. So you’ve got chromeos, which has less general computer support than regular linux. Can’t run MS office, slightly lesser game support. No special form factor or advantage for games like say the steam deck etc… No matter how you slice it you’ve got a computer, designed to do… say 70% of what you can on a regular laptop… for the price of… a regular laptop.

Blisterexe,

Yes. I remember seeing some booths for “gaming chromebooks” at a best buy a while back.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

They're never gonna run demanding AAA titles, but Steam is full of simpler 2D and classic games they could handle. You could play Balatro or Stardew Valley on a Chromebook.

caut_R, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Aren‘t the original devs gone or am I misremembering?

chemical_cutthroat, (edited )
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I think the original devs left after the second one. The third was a new crew. I could be misremembering too, though.

Edit: I was mistaken as everyone has pointed out. It makes a lot more sense that way.

caut_R,

If that‘s the case then I guess I shouldn‘t be as sceptic cause I liked Infinite quite a bit

denial,

Wasn’t it the first and infinite. And Bioshock 2 was someone else?

fartsparkles, (edited )

Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite were by Irrational Games (2K Boston). Bioshock 2 was by 2K Marin.

Ken Levine shut down the studio after Infinite as they disliked the stress and scale of development - missing the days of small development teams.

That was back in 2014. Levine’s new studio, set up immediately after the closure of Irrational, has yet to release a game but supposedly their first project, Judas, is not too far from completion (it was meant to be out this year in March but, so far, there’s no news).

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah Judas looks interesting.

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

vice versa.

BS2 was 2K australia and a rehash. Infinite was the Og team with ken levine

MangioneDontMiss,

yes because they got laid off. and by original devs, I mean the devs originally working on bioshock 4, not the previous titles - they are long long gone.

dinckelman, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Someone from Take-two leadership said that? Are they ill with something? That’s the most sensible statement i’ve heard from them in ages

Fiivemacs,

statements mean nothing…prove it. I don’t listen to anything any company says, they only lie.

produce non trash, and make it affordable or else I’ll continue to just ignore they exist.

arnitbier, (edited )

OK when have they produced trash? BioShock rules so wtf is your crusade (which i generally like) doing on this post rn?

Theyre literally talking to the people and they’re like - were taking the time to make the game good last one was good and we want to keep it that way."

So yeah let’s consider the obvious turning of that pendulum (quality and crap being more profitable and thus in a way easier to produce in the system we are stuck with being in)and be reasonably hopeful for a reasonable reason for a change

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Much love haha 😎

Glytch,

OK when have they produced trash?

Borderlands 3 comes to mind as do both of the Tales from the Borderlands games. There’s been a few misses in the 2K sports line up as well.

Let’s see if they can do a new game without resorting to returning to Rapture like they did with Infinite and Burial at Sea.

arnitbier, (edited )

Aah yeah BL3 was… Well in retrospect the dlc structure hurt it the most, glaring design there wtf were those executives freaking on?

Fair points 👍

Fingers crossed 🤞

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I’m having a great time with Borderlands 3 right now. They did so much to improve the feel of those games with that one. Standards are incredibly high if that’s trash.

TheEighthDoctor,

OK when have they produced trash?

Kerbal Space Program 2 was going fine until they put their hands on it

arnitbier, (edited )

Oh great now that guys rage makes way more sense I’m seeing a legit pattern now… Sorry I just didn’t want to google a controversy… Thanks for the info 👍👍

Edit: Oh God its so clear to me now 💀

Hoping BioShock makes it out alive

arnitbier, (edited )

That’s the ticket right there, right in the caring. That should be the way going forward. Please. There will be more videogames eventually so let’s make things WORTH our time, both theirs to spend creating them and ours to spend playing them. Let’s make sure its worth all that collective effort yes?

Kolanaki, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

If it has the best entertainment, I will be expecting full visible penetration.

BotsRuinedEverything, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Translation: 6 hour playthrough.

jordanlund, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Infinite was a pretty high bar, they may have intimidated themselves.

I mean, Jesus, even Zero Punctuation liked it and he hates everything!

youtu.be/rciyCHa6J4o

RvTV95XBeo,

Story of Infinite was fine but the gameplay was very repetitive and far too linear for my personal taste.

Had one play through, and baaarely made it to the end - glad I did but it was rough going there for the 1000000000th “Booker, catch!”

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The SkyHook action was pretty amazing, that’s the #1 thing I remember other than the design work.

Thehalfjew,

That’s interesting. I so appreciated having a useful, independent partner

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