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Empricorn, do gaming w Valve responds as indie horror studio accuses Steam of 'censorship' for banning its game about nude human 'Horses' (Update)

Huh. Assuming this is the whole truth, it sounds completely reasonable.

savvywolf, do gaming w Valve responds as indie horror studio accuses Steam of 'censorship' for banning its game about nude human 'Horses' (Update)
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

“It’s just horror, bro” with the same kind of energy as “it’s just a prank, bro”.

I’ve not played the game, but “person riding another person in horse gear” is absolutely a fetish thing, intentional or otherwise.

I think it absolutely would fall afoul of kiddie porn laws. Honestly, I think any depiction of a child in proximity to nudity probably would count.

belluck, do gaming w Valve responds as indie horror studio accuses Steam of 'censorship' for banning its game about nude human 'Horses' (Update)

TLDR: There was a scene in a prerelease version of the game that depicted a young girl riding on the shoulders of a nude adult woman. Valve interpreted it as sexual, devs say it wasn’t, that the young girl model was a placeholder, and removed the scene entirely from the release build, which still can’t be published on Steam due to their ban policy.

Deyis,

There’s already been extensive discussion about this already; the whole thing stinks of the dev trying to get extra publicity because the fucked around and found out.

Goodeye8,

Yeah, the whole thing stinks to high heavens of the devs fucking around and then trying to shift the blame onto Valve.

Rose,

Not merely as sexual, but as “sexual conduct”. Valve already hosts a huge number of games depicting full nudity and sex, and before the payment processors complained, that included games with r*pe in their description.

t3rmit3,

It’s a game where people are put in animal masks, chained up, and ridden around naked.

what the studio calls “grotesque, subversive imagery” of a ranch where nude human beings in horse masks are treated as animal livestock.

To pretend that said “grotesque, subversive imagery” is not in this case functioning on it’s proximity to sexual degradation, is disingenuous imo. I don’t blame Valve for not wanting to wade into an “art vs shock-sploitation” debate.

ryven,
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I don’t understand how this scene, which is only sexual by implication, is not allowed, but Fear and Hunger, in which you can drag a little girl through a dungeon full of monsters that sexually assault you, through orgy scenes, etc., is fine. Like I’m not saying that F&H should be removed, but I am saying that based on what is currently on Steam, it does not seem like this would be over the line.

TehPers,

Assuming you’re referring to F&H 1, that came out five years before Steam reviewed this game. It’s possible they simply became more strict over time and never revisited F&H because it never came up.

Also, Steam’s rules (or any other private platform’s rules) are not law. Precedent doesn’t really matter. They can decide arbitrarily when rules apply and don’t apply (so long as they don’t violate anti-competition laws and so on). One would hope they are consistent, but being an organization with likely multiple reviewers, it’s unlikely they are always in sync, especially with decisions separated by years.

A different question to ask is whether the scene you described would have passed review in 2023. I haven’t played F&H, but based on your description, it seems unlikely.

jordanlund, do games w Classic text adventure Zork is going open source, but I'm side-eyeing Microsoft's announcement about it hard
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

You have been eaten by a Grue.

smeg, do games w Classic text adventure Zork is going open source, but I'm side-eyeing Microsoft's announcement about it hard

Did we really need an article saying “I think this other bit of text might be written by a robot”? Of all the things you criticise Microsoft for, that’s the one to go for? Or perhaps it’s the other side of the coin, Microsoft unusually did something quite nice so the author had to find something about it to criticise?

False, do games w Classic text adventure Zork is going open source, but I'm side-eyeing Microsoft's announcement about it hard

The press release isn’t really the important part here.

EarMaster, (edited )
@EarMaster@lemmy.world avatar

It sounds like a few sixty year old engineer(s) got some managers to sign off the release of the source code and decided to do the most out of the lack of resources they had available. I have no problem with them using AI to write a press release. No one is going to read it anyways in a few weeks of time - but the release is there forever (within reasonable limits).

lambda, do games w Classic text adventure Zork is going open source, but I'm side-eyeing Microsoft's announcement about it hard
@lambda@programming.dev avatar

Pretty cool. They are probably hoping someone can figure out how to compile it. The readme states that it can’t be compiled…

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

The repository had been lying dormant for roughly six years.

SlurpingPus,

Well, the game uses portable bytecode for the ‘Z-machine’ interpreter, and there are dozens of third-party interpreters for it. You can run these games on your phone, no need to compile them.

patruelis, do games w Legendary game designer, programmer, Space Invaders champion, and LGBTQ trailblazer Rebecca Heineman has died

A sad day 😢

GerardsGuitar, do games w Legendary game designer, programmer, Space Invaders champion, and LGBTQ trailblazer Rebecca Heineman has died
@GerardsGuitar@retrolemmy.com avatar

Never knew much about her before today but she seems to have made a positive impact on a lot of people from what I’ve read. Rest in Peace!

fishsayhelo, do games w 'I've had so many projects that have been discontinued lately': Nier creator Yoko Taro says he's been working on plenty of games—but they keep getting cancelled before he can announce them

genuinely devastating. one of the finest creatives around :(

Kissaki, do gaming w 'I've had so many projects that have been discontinued lately': Nier creator Yoko Taro says he's been working on plenty of games—but they keep getting cancelled before he can announce them

I like weird. Of course they mean something different when they say weird.

ParadoxSeahorse, do games w 'I've had so many projects that have been discontinued lately': Nier creator Yoko Taro says he's been working on plenty of games—but they keep getting cancelled before he can announce them

I still miss Nier: Reincarnation.

  • Gacha with a non-screaming interface
  • Great plot as per
  • Beautiful character design
  • Strangely not boring
  • Ephemeral is a Yoko theme (it gone)
  • Never paid anything and completed it
  • Maybe why gone
altkey, (edited ) do games w 'I've had so many projects that have been discontinued lately': Nier creator Yoko Taro says he's been working on plenty of games—but they keep getting cancelled before he can announce them

I think it’s better not to release something than to release something weird

He wrote that wearing Emil’s head.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Everything Yoko Taro makes is totally not weird and completely normal. Its all of us that are weird, clearly.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Emil is wearing his head

pyria, do games w Legendary game designer, programmer, Space Invaders champion, and LGBTQ trailblazer Rebecca Heineman has died

Had a sad feeling that when she was trying to get a gofundme going, that she was on her last legs.

RIP.

Aielman15, do games w Legendary game designer, programmer, Space Invaders champion, and LGBTQ trailblazer Rebecca Heineman has died
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

About the LGBTQ part: she was working at EA when she transitioned, and she recounted acceptance and support for trans people was codified in her workplace, in a time when transitioning often meant discrimination, rejection and even job loss.

People don’t always remember that EA were the “good guys” before they made bank with Sims and CoD.

lordnikon,

Good sentiment but i think you mean BF not CoD as Activision owns CoD

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Whopsie, yes, my bad. The two always get mixed in my mind.

jaselle,

The Sims was a great game. And it had same-sex marriage from the sims 2 on (which is the first game that actually has a proper notion of marriage).

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