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BotsRuinedEverything, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Translation: 6 hour playthrough.

daniskarma, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

I really disliked bioshock 3. So I have little hope.

The story was over the top but without saying anything interesting or iconic.

Gunplay is a weird mix between call of duty and bioshock and it doesn’t work.

Upgrade system along with only two weapons felt weird. Topics are less useful and less common than in previous games.

“Choices” in story are not choices, completely useless.

Companion AI is bland, they promised a revolution with Elisabeth but it’s just a fly tied on a cord, there’s zero AI in it. It can’t die so there’s nothing to interact. It just moves around you, pretend to seek supplies and to hide from bullets but it’s all fake, it cannot be hurt and she just tosses you supplies on scripted events.

The bird is hyped and have zero impact in the gameplay.

And I could go on…

Bioshock 1 is a thousand times better game in every single aspect.

Klear,

“Choices” in story are not choices, completely useless.

That, at least, is a staple for the series. Otherwise I mostly agree. I was enjoying the story and worldbuilding until about the time when the portals to other dimensions started appearing and the plot went sideways. From then on it was mostly bullshit they tried to explian by repeating “quantum mechanics” over and over.

Blueberrydreamer,

Making Elizabeth invincible is the only way that game is playable for me. There’s no chance in hell I’d play an entire game that’s one long escort quest where I’m constantly worried about the useless sidekick that I’d rather be without. She may not have added much, but a superficial narrative device is a thousand times better than a crippling gameplay decision.

Katana314,

Tbf, Resident Evil 4 managed to find some ways to get away with it.

absquatulate, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Third separate article about this game in a week? I see they’re in the hyping up phase.

jordanlund, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Infinite was a pretty high bar, they may have intimidated themselves.

I mean, Jesus, even Zero Punctuation liked it and he hates everything!

youtu.be/rciyCHa6J4o

RvTV95XBeo,

Story of Infinite was fine but the gameplay was very repetitive and far too linear for my personal taste.

Had one play through, and baaarely made it to the end - glad I did but it was rough going there for the 1000000000th “Booker, catch!”

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The SkyHook action was pretty amazing, that’s the #1 thing I remember other than the design work.

Thehalfjew,

That’s interesting. I so appreciated having a useful, independent partner

toiletobserver, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

I’m ok to wait for quality

dinckelman, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Someone from Take-two leadership said that? Are they ill with something? That’s the most sensible statement i’ve heard from them in ages

Fiivemacs,

statements mean nothing…prove it. I don’t listen to anything any company says, they only lie.

produce non trash, and make it affordable or else I’ll continue to just ignore they exist.

arnitbier, (edited )

OK when have they produced trash? BioShock rules so wtf is your crusade (which i generally like) doing on this post rn?

Theyre literally talking to the people and they’re like - were taking the time to make the game good last one was good and we want to keep it that way."

So yeah let’s consider the obvious turning of that pendulum (quality and crap being more profitable and thus in a way easier to produce in the system we are stuck with being in)and be reasonably hopeful for a reasonable reason for a change

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Much love haha 😎

Glytch,

OK when have they produced trash?

Borderlands 3 comes to mind as do both of the Tales from the Borderlands games. There’s been a few misses in the 2K sports line up as well.

Let’s see if they can do a new game without resorting to returning to Rapture like they did with Infinite and Burial at Sea.

arnitbier, (edited )

Aah yeah BL3 was… Well in retrospect the dlc structure hurt it the most, glaring design there wtf were those executives freaking on?

Fair points 👍

Fingers crossed 🤞

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I’m having a great time with Borderlands 3 right now. They did so much to improve the feel of those games with that one. Standards are incredibly high if that’s trash.

TheEighthDoctor,

OK when have they produced trash?

Kerbal Space Program 2 was going fine until they put their hands on it

arnitbier, (edited )

Oh great now that guys rage makes way more sense I’m seeing a legit pattern now… Sorry I just didn’t want to google a controversy… Thanks for the info 👍👍

Edit: Oh God its so clear to me now 💀

Hoping BioShock makes it out alive

arnitbier, (edited )

That’s the ticket right there, right in the caring. That should be the way going forward. Please. There will be more videogames eventually so let’s make things WORTH our time, both theirs to spend creating them and ours to spend playing them. Let’s make sure its worth all that collective effort yes?

caut_R, do games w 'Consumers are not okay with okay': Take-Two boss says BioShock 4 is taking so long because the company's goal is 'to make the best entertainment, not necessarily the most entertainment'

Aren‘t the original devs gone or am I misremembering?

chemical_cutthroat, (edited )
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I think the original devs left after the second one. The third was a new crew. I could be misremembering too, though.

Edit: I was mistaken as everyone has pointed out. It makes a lot more sense that way.

caut_R,

If that‘s the case then I guess I shouldn‘t be as sceptic cause I liked Infinite quite a bit

denial,

Wasn’t it the first and infinite. And Bioshock 2 was someone else?

fartsparkles, (edited )

Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite were by Irrational Games (2K Boston). Bioshock 2 was by 2K Marin.

Ken Levine shut down the studio after Infinite as they disliked the stress and scale of development - missing the days of small development teams.

That was back in 2014. Levine’s new studio, set up immediately after the closure of Irrational, has yet to release a game but supposedly their first project, Judas, is not too far from completion (it was meant to be out this year in March but, so far, there’s no news).

Regrettable_incident,
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah Judas looks interesting.

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

vice versa.

BS2 was 2K australia and a rehash. Infinite was the Og team with ken levine

MangioneDontMiss,

yes because they got laid off. and by original devs, I mean the devs originally working on bioshock 4, not the previous titles - they are long long gone.

rauls5, do games w Remember the guy who lost a bitcoin wallet worth millions in a landfill? There's a game about that now

I laughed at this far more than I should have.

zero, do games w Remember the guy who lost a bitcoin wallet worth millions in a landfill? There's a game about that now
@zero@fek.xyz avatar

I wonder if he found his wallet in the game?

SlartyBartFast,

I believe he’s still out there digging to this day

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

He actually tried to buy up the whole landfill so he can continue to search. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/14/uk/james-howells-landfill-bitcoin-gbr-intl-scli

SlartyBartFast,

Jokes on him, a time traveller beat him off to it

Tollana1234567,

its probably damaged beyond repair, if it got wet, or chemicals got into the drive, assuming its there. plus decaying trash creates a ton of HEAT.

FlashMobOfOne, do games w Remember the guy who lost a bitcoin wallet worth millions in a landfill? There's a game about that now
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

Bummer.

You can still buy bitcoin though, just wait for the next dip and get right in.

Inucune,

To the core! Diamond hands! Don’t buy until it is pennies so you make a fortune in the upswing!

ivanafterall, do games w Remember the guy who lost a bitcoin wallet worth millions in a landfill? There's a game about that now
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

This guy not only didn’t find his bitcoins, but now other people will make more money off of his story than he has. Oof.

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

And still searching to this day and trying to buy the whole landfill: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/14/uk/james-howells-landfill-bitcoin-gbr-intl-scli

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

I would hope he finds it several years from now and it’s unrecoverable, just because that would be funny. But I don’t actually hope that as I have seen nothing that says he deserves that. It was already kinda sad when he started looking, now it’s just depressing.

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

That would indeed be funny. So he can just move on with his life and move on.

Mac,

I heard he was abusive to his girlfriend or something. I hope he burns.

Tollana1234567,

hes desperate for that 800+million, he will spend the rest of his life doing it. if it buried under tons of trash, he will never find it.

Tollana1234567,

he couldve capatilize on this, and sold the game himself.

etchinghillside, do games w Remember the guy who lost a bitcoin wallet worth millions in a landfill? There's a game about that now
Ilixtze, do games w Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader dev Owlcat comes out swinging in support of Stop Killing Games: 'Every player deserves lasting access to what they’ve paid for'

I like this guys because they are making an Expanse game. Are their Warhammer games fun?

redhorsejacket,

They have made one Warhammer game, Rogue Trader. It is a party based, turn based, RPG based upon a tabletop RPG ruleset. It’s quite good, though I admit that I play it on story mode difficulty cause I can’t be bothered to learn another RPG system right now, and idgaf about build crafting. With that being said, it’s a positively ENORMOUS game, with extraordinary amounts of optional content to interact with. If you go on expecting Space Marine 2, or Dawn of War, you’re likely going to be very upset. However, if you are prepared for something which apes the old Infinity Engine games of the 90s, or games inspired by the same, such as Pillars of Eternity, you’ll likely enjoy yourself.

BuboScandiacus, do games w Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader dev Owlcat comes out swinging in support of Stop Killing Games: 'Every player deserves lasting access to what they’ve paid for'
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

And short loading times !

ShaggySnacks, do games w Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader dev Owlcat comes out swinging in support of Stop Killing Games: 'Every player deserves lasting access to what they’ve paid for'

Yeah, if someone is going to lose access to a game that I bought. It’s going to be me.

Katana314,

accidentally drops rare copy of indie game into a sewer grate

aw, fuck. I can’t believe I’ve done this.

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