A server browser similar to Arma would have been a godsend as it allows people to set up unique rules, experiment with different game modes and play around the map itself. While BF isn’t a milsim sandbox game a server browser is what keeps older BF games alive especially on console and the removal of that does make you wonder if we’ll be playing BF6 a decade down the line.
Server browsers are the better experience for me. Jump in a game and its already going, less pressure to stay because there’s no matchmaking ban/penalties. Everyone is there primarily to have fun because KD WL MMR ELO isnt being logged. If im desperately outclassed, or life gets in the way, I can just quit with no guilt or punishment. If im having a good time i can stay with mostly the same people for a long time.
Thats before you even get into the technicalities and longevity considerations.
Plus it’s great if the server is made specifically for a map you really love. Like TFC/TF2 with say 24/7 2fort. I love me some 2fort and yeah I will play it for hours on end, it’s comfy.
supposedly doesn’t work on windows either if you play valorant ar maybe other games with similar anticheats competing for the same system area no video game shoud have control over
ah so that post I saw the other day saying “begun the kernel wars have” makes senses. someone posted the fact they couldn’t play BF6 cause Valorant was installed.
That’s more then a server browser. You are just being deceptive. You cherry picked the one quote in the article that makes it look like there is nothing in your post and your comments aren’t honest.
What you are talking about is a whole other debate entirely and simply not how the industry runs anymore when it comes to multiplayer shooters.
I want that stuff too but that’s not what server browser means. The finals and cod don’t have server browsers. Bf6 will have a server browser.
That limitation, and the inability to sidestep DICE by renting a server that never shuts down, made it difficult for communities to take shape in Portal.
The ideas are bound together. Same with anti cheat. Same with preservation. Removing private servers caused all of these problems at the same time. The author of the article speaks for the group who want the community that I admitted never mattered to me, that Portal doesn’t provide, but other knock-on effects of the death of the server browser do matter to me.
There is a server browser. There are no servers hosted on private machines. I would like fully private servers too but there is still a server browser regardless.
They have explained what they are complaining about several times now, so get off your pedantic horse and either join the conversation that is happening or fuck off.
It bothers me because 90% of the people in the conversation think there will be only matchmaking and nothing else because of how OP framed it.
You want to talk about how you can’t have your own private server completely disconnected for EA, fine. But that doesn’t mean the game has no browser, jfc.
No, you seem to be the only one confused here. They said a REAL browser, not just a list of servers.
“… we should be able to do what we want with it, including running those max player/max ticket servers that run 24/7 on one map. We should be able to do it without DICE/EA’s permission, …”
Does that sound like OP was whining about simply not having a list of servers? Improve your reading comprehension before you whine about how something was stated.
we should be able to do what we want with it, including running those max player/max ticket servers that run 24/7 on one map.
You can do this because the game let’s you host a server (your rules or official ones) and includes a server browser so random people can find it and join your game.
We should be able to do it without DICE/EA’s permission
You can’t do this because although there is a server browser, you can’t run private servers disconnected from eas infrastructure.
I am correcting OP because most of what he said in his post and what people are repeating in the comments implies that there is only matchmaking and implies that the first part isn’t possible.
Or, hear me out, people are whining about their own experiences, complaining in general about how they hate matchmaking only games. Several people even specifically mention other games before they go on to complain.
This is mostly basic commiserating that you seem to be mistaking for misunderstanding.
IMO it’s the opposite, what exists now is less than a server browser. I’d call it a custom games browser instead. Whichever one you pick will be on the official servers.
I agree it isn’t how the industry is now, but it isn’t going to improve if everyone just accepts it.
Yep. This is the correct answer but that’s not what this thread is about; it’s a nostalgic circle jerk mixed with a sprinkling of “back in my day”.
Don’t get me wrong here, I like the suggestions in this thread but literally one of the suggestions being upvoted is how the game is planned to handle servers (quick join is random and then there will be a list of community servers).
I’m fine with the official servers being random join, as long as I can pick and choose a community server. Which to state again, is apparently planned.
I’m still waiting for reviews on release to make sure they hold true to their marketing though. Can’t trust shit from large studios.
I loved the servers that were 24/7 metro, no drags etc. some of those were (and still are) my favorite. Or pistols only, no Glock 18. When you get rid of custom servers you get rid of that custom experience.
It would be nice if we had both options. Let people matchmake for the default experience and let those that prefer custom servers to use those instead. There are problems with using only community hosted servers, such as game rules and less ideal admins.
That being said, the longevity that community servers offer is likely the reason they have been scrapped by EA. They want everyone to move to the next title that comes out like what people do with CoD.
What sucks on my end is that this has only been the latest in a long chain of reasons to boycott Microsoft - so I can’t exactly claim, if they take a step back from “Systematically murdering innocent people” then I’ll go back to giving them money.
While I hate googles tendency to kill everything I have to ask, did google really promise chromebooks as a gaming system? I always understood them as dirt cheap computers made to handle the basics of word processing and average web based applications. Ideal only to be school or work computers
Honestly I think that’s the constant problem of every “low cost computer” setup that comes out. They start out with an understanding of what they are… a cheap disposable alternative for doing the basics, after getting some momentum in that they cry about the lack of profit margins, keep adding to it to justify pricing them the same as regular laptops, but at the fundamental level do far less and they don’t sell for crap at that price.
Like say netbooks, it’s so commonly assumed the ipad killed the netbook… as a former netbook owner I disagree. I bought an acer aspire 1 when they were on sale for like $100, it was a really low powered, basic windows system. If I recall it was running win XP in the vista era. For me it was a good choice, a nice note taking, word document writing and basic web browsing computer with a decent battery life, and tiny enough to slip in a bag with little work.
I worked at staples at the time, and if I recall they were around $200 regular price, but frequently on sale for 100-150, and when they went on sale they sold like hotcakes. They had other netbooks in the 300-500 price range… I don’t think I ever saw one sell, and to this day I don’t get the appeal. You’d need more hardware if you were say, editing graphics… or playing games, or doing something more complex, but why would you do those things on a 10" screen. Same price you could buy a real laptop, bit bigger, but more importantly a comfortable screen size and a full sized keyboard. So in short, the netbooks went from a cheap option that can do the the main fundimentals of a PC slightly worse, for 1/3rd the price. To a… laptop that could do 80% of what a laptop can, on an uncomfortably tiny screen, for 100% of the price.
around the same time the ipad came out… for $500, the netbooks shifted their focus, more and more models in the $300-$700 price range. Nebooks shifted to being what I would effectively describe as… small little boxes, that do most of what a laptop does, much worse with a tiny screen… for the same price, maybe a bit more when comparing spec for spec.
Honestly i see the same with chromebooks. So you’ve got chromeos, which has less general computer support than regular linux. Can’t run MS office, slightly lesser game support. No special form factor or advantage for games like say the steam deck etc… No matter how you slice it you’ve got a computer, designed to do… say 70% of what you can on a regular laptop… for the price of… a regular laptop.
They're never gonna run demanding AAA titles, but Steam is full of simpler 2D and classic games they could handle. You could play Balatro or Stardew Valley on a Chromebook.
It does wound an aweful lot like the whole skate. Situation. We really want to make the best game possible and we really care for customer feedback. Hmm turns out they really didn’t and just try to sell micro transactions
I worked at 2k when they first started making this game back in 2017 - and I worked in VERY close proximity to the studio making this game.
So bullshit. Its taking so long because take two is run by indecisive, cheap, executives who have pretty much taken the studio that was making it, based in Novato, CA - KILLED IT - and moved almost the entirety of production over to Canada because its cheaper.
Its taking a long time because it takes a long time to kill a team, remake a team, and then restart production from the ground up. Pipelines take years, and in most cases, multiple titles to optimize/streamline. The executives running this show can’t decide what to do with the game and they have already basically killed an entire team in order to reform it in a cheaper country. These are executives that just do not know how to let a team run itself. They are far too hands on and they don’t know shit about actual production.
Take two also basically gutted the other studio they had in Novato, Hangar 13, which was working on a 3rd person action RPG code named VOLT. They worked on that game for around NINE YEARS. Before completely cancelling it. (Does anyone know what its like to work on something for nine years and have absolutely NOTHING to show for it?) But before they cancelled it they layed off the team that was working on it multiple times in order to move Hangar 13 from its primary location of Novato, CA over to, in large part, the czech republic, and UK. Both places substantially cheaper for making games.
The czech republic is actually the boom town of the game industry right now because its so fucking cheap. So many game studios have been made and reformed over there.
And people wonder why so many US game devs are being laid off. Its all executive greed. All of it. – And if you believe this is taking so long solely because of “Quality” - you are kidding yourself.
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