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Dariusmiles2123, do games w God of War Ragnarök will require a PSN account to play on PC

I’m honestly asking why people are so furious about the psn account. Is it because you don’t want to give your data to Sony?

I’d clearly understand with something like facebook or google, but I don’t think giving my data to Sony is the end of the world.

I’m not a pc gamer and I wouldn’t want to have every company pushing for their own account, but I don’t see why Sony is getting so criticized when (I think) Ubisoft or Electronic Arts have been doing this for years on PC.

hal_5700X,

Sony has a long history of data breaches and hacks. firewalltimes.com/sony-data-breach-timeline

paultimate14,

Lol a good chunk of those “breaches and hacks” are either unrelated to PlayStation (Sony Pictures being the most notable) or had no impact to users.

I don’t care if they leak their source code for games or if their social media account gets socially-engineered. Even an outage from a DDOS isjust a minor inconvenience. According to the source you posted, they haven’t had any issues leaking PlayStation user data since 2011, over a decade ago.

Security concerns are valid for everything you do on the Internet of course, but are you bringing that same energy to Valve for the security issues Steam has had over the years too? The 2023 issue with dev accounts getting hacked to inject malware. The 2020 issue with the “Steam Sockets” library. They had their own data breach similar to Sony’s in 2011.

GalacticHero,

And that’s just what they’ve done by accident. There was also that time they installed rootkits on their customers’ PCs, lied about it, belittled their customers when nobody believed them, then put out a fake uninstaller that actually installed additional software and didn’t uninstall the rootkit.

Srootus,

Maybe with helldivers you can argue the cross play angle, but why require a PSN account for a single player game? Sony’s also doing this with the new Until Dawn version which also is coming to steam.

LordOfLocksley,

This is what baffles me as well. Online game I can understand… but offline single player…???

Also, why in the 21st century does Sony not expand PSN world wide, and why is it only available in a handful of countries

Dariusmiles2123,

Yeah PSN not being available everywhere is weird and not good for their sales then.

Dariusmiles2123,

I guess every PlayStation game on pc is kind of belonging to the PlayStation universe and that’s why it’s an excuse to demand a psn account.

I’m addicted to trophies so I don’t mind the psn account.

I guess people who don’t want to get a psn account should just not play these games and not pirate them as some people are suggesting.

Mini_Moonpie,

I can’t speak for others, but for me it’s just a nuisance. I’m not furious about it. I avoid buying EA and Ubisoft games too. It’s a small thing for one game on one account, but when you acquire a lot of games across a bunch of different accounts, all those different logins and launchers just become a bother.

Dariusmiles2123,

I can only agree with this 👍

On PlayStation it ain’t a nuisance because the psn account is valid for every game, but on pc I agree with you.

paultimate14,

It’s funny to me because tons of PC-exclusive games also require accounts on Steam and no one cares.

The requirement is dumb, but the attention is also disproportionate because of console war fandom.

Don_alForno,

With how frequently they get hacked, Sony is the last company you want to trust with any of your data. Might as well post all of it on a public facebook page.

Aceticon, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead

The fishy part is the “taking in account the EULA” since EULAs are not legally valid documents in most of the World.

Licenses explicitly accepted by the buyer before the purchase, sure, EULAs, no, since they’re treated as an attempt to, after the implied contract which is the sale, unilaterally change the contract.

The court order makes some sense because that’s basically to do with inheritance and who gets to inherit what, but the EULA “consideration” is complete total bollocks.

butsbutts, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead

yay great

Aria, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead

Alright hold on setting up my GOG dead man trigger. I wonder what info I need to include. So far I have an email going to support with the text “I AM DEAD”. I hope they don’t change address between now and when I die.

shasta,

My guess is death certificate

AdrianTheFrog, do gaming w Indie dev baffled after acquaintance clones his game, puts it on Steam, and acts like it's no big deal: 'Happens every day homie'
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Both games are completely free and without any sort of monetization, I do think he definitely should have linked to the original game and taken it down when the original creator asked, but a fan remaking a game doesn’t sound that unusual

No-one is profiting, no one is losing anything, why does it matter?

snek_boi,

Humans care about belonging and fairness. Profit is one type of political good that can be distributed based on different criteria, for example by selling a good or a service or by stealing or copying someone’s code. But profit is not the only political good that exists. There’s also relevance. There is credit. There is legitimacy.

TL;DR: Money is not the only thing that humans care about. Humans also care about fairness.

billgamesh,

It says in the article that he explicitly stated it was a clone, so yeah. only bad thing was being kinda a jerk when asked to take it down

Fizz, do gaming w Hello, PC gaming here: Are the consoles OK?
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

The money is in the users not selling the hardware. As long as Playstation has hundreds of million daily users they will continue to make insane profit. The people will move up a generation eventually.

thingsiplay,

Apparently not enough, because Sony focuses on PC more than ever.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Focusing on PC more than ever isn’t exactly a high bar. Consoles (maybe not xbox) are still doing extremely well and consoles are more popular than PC by quite a big margin. I expect Sony and Nintendo to continue to grow their userbase even if the sales on the latest platform drop a bit.

thingsiplay,

consoles are more popular than PC by quite a big margin.

How do you measure this? Steam alone has 130 to 150 million active users, more than Switch customers at a whole. And that does not even include some of the most popular PC games at all. I also expect PC user base to grow, it has more potential than consoles.

So yes, its a big deal for companies like Sony to open up this big to PC and to be that successful. They don’t even need to sell a console to sell games. Off course consoles will remain popular and for good reason. But most popular games are mulitsystem games and not specific to consoles anyway. In my opinion it is remarkable how much Sony focuses on PC now. I hope they keep doing it; its only beneficial for the players, the publishers and for Sony.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

The stats I could find compared pc and current and last gen consoles so ps4 and ps5 era and the split was basically 50/50. But if you think about it that’s not a fair comparison because pc has people who running on hardware worse than a ps3.

I mostly take issue with the smug tone of the article acting like it’s over for consoles just because they didn’t meet expectations and decided to bring some games to pc. Consoles are still extremely popular and far more powerful than the average pc according to steam hardware survey. They will still be around and successful no doubt about it.

AmbiguousProps, (edited )

that’s not a fair comparison because pc has people who running on hardware worse than a ps3.

This is a benefit of using PC, not a downside. Unlike consoles, you aren’t forced to upgrade every few years and you actually have the ability to change graphics settings. Even if you want to upgrade your PC, you don’t need to get an entirely new build.

That’s also missing the fact that plenty of people don’t need or want to play the latest AAA title.

thingsiplay,

I mostly take issue with the smug tone of the article acting like it’s over for consoles just because they didn’t meet expectations and decided to bring some games to pc. Consoles are still extremely popular and far more powerful than the average pc according to steam hardware survey. They will still be around and successful no doubt about it.

I agree with you here. These articles are stupid telling people it would be over for consoles. It’s just clickbait or they are uninformed. Maybe besides your point that the “average pc” is that weak as you say. Most are at a level of PS4 or stronger. But that is not all you need to compare if you want to an analysis. This topic is extremely complicated. You can’t just take the average. There are far more PC users than console players. Its like taking the Game Boy into account and saying that the average game consoles is weak. That’s not the full story.

In example most monthly active users on consoles play games that could be played on a potato PC or last gen consoles too and these people probably do not buy newest games. Similar to the situation on PC.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I think what we’re seeing is that people aren’t choosing to move up a generation.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Yea because ps4 is still getting all the releases and ps5 is really expensive. I have friends who still play on ps4 and I went to their house and they’re playing games on like 20fps having a blast. It was kinda wholesome I just wish they weren’t getting scammed by Sony and chose pc so they could play games that actually run on their hardware.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Given how much PC has grown in the same time, statistically, they are moving to PC.

nothx, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead
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Updating my Will so that my wife inherits all the games that I don’t actually own.

Zerush, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

In my testament I’ll share my GOG account data and password in all social networks and Wikipedia with a hand with extended middle finger out of the grave.

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead

So long as I can prove I’m dead? I’m now going to add it to my will that my inheritees must yeet my corpse at GoG’s office door.

erwan,

The title is wrong. It’s not about proving that the owner is dead (which is easy, you get a death certificate when a relative dies).

It’s about proving that the person requesting access of the dead person account is actually the person legally receiving the dead person’s possessions (or GOG account specifically).

onlooker,
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This comment should be somewhere near the top. My reaction was similar to DebatableRaccoon’s.

Lettuceeatlettuce, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

My ghost will haunt GoG’s corporate offices until they relent and transfer my games to the person who’s name I keep creepily spelling with frost on their mirrors & windows.

sirico, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Hi Gog I died it was really hard to write this from beyond the grave but please ensure my copy of creatures 2 makes it to little Jimmy

croobat, do gaming w Indie dev baffled after acquaintance clones his game, puts it on Steam, and acts like it's no big deal: 'Happens every day homie'
@croobat@lemmy.world avatar

People arguing a lot of legal stuff while I just think this was a dick move.

onlooker,
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

Same here. Terry didn’t even bother to change up the artstyle. Forget being inspired by something, his game looks like a straight-up copy. What a tool.

db0, do gaming w Indie dev baffled after acquaintance clones his game, puts it on Steam, and acts like it's no big deal: 'Happens every day homie'
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All my games are Foss. honesty if that happened I would be more upset they didn’t want to just collaborate on the same code

TootSweet, do gaming w GOG will let you bequeath your game library to someone else as long as you can prove you're actually dead

I’m just going to put in my will “and to my loved ones, please pirate some games I liked.”

NauticalNoodle, (edited ) do gaming w Indie dev baffled after acquaintance clones his game, puts it on Steam, and acts like it's no big deal: 'Happens every day homie'

I guess my only takeaway is that if I want to protect my IP then anyone who has access to the software should be required to sign a terms & agreement that specifically written to prevent this kind of thing, regardless IANAL, but i’m pretty sure this is all legal according to copyright law. The engine and therefore the code is different, the assets are custom and slightly different. If this were a trademark or patent related case then there might be a something else to go on.

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah pretty much. You can’t copyright gameplay mechanics, so there’s nothing illegal about it. It’s just a dick move.

BigPotato,

Tell that to Zod’s snapped neck the nemesis system.

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a patent, not copyright.

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