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MudMan, do games w 'Powered bv SteamOS' gaming handheld validation leaks in Valve documentation, Asus ROG Ally may be among first handhelds with official SteamOS support

This is cool, more options are better.

It does, however, make me REALLY want Valve to add official third party library support. I have thousands of games on GOG and hundreds on Epic. I don't need them to officially support all of them, but at least I need a better approach to integrating them than fiddling with Heroic or Lutris in desktop mode.

Damage,

Gamers are used to fiddling, so that shouldn’t be a big deal for now

MudMan,

"Gamers are used to fiddling"?

No. Gamers are largely playing on Switch. And PS5, sometimes.

The residual amount of people playing on PC are annoyed by fiddling, with very rare exceptions.

Hell, I fiddle. I've been known to fiddle in my day. And I'm here complaining about the fiddling. I'm a representative of extreme tolerance to fiddling and I'm annoyed.

MrScottyTay,

I like fiddling. Sometimes i fiddle and then never actually use what I was fiddling with once it’s working. But even I would gladly welcome not needing to fiddle at all.

MudMan,

Fiddling with things and actually using things are entirely independent hobbies.

As any midde age nerd who briefly got into restoring retro gaming hardware will tell you. Not that I would know anything about that.

theangryseal,

I went nuts with retro restores and collecting in the 2010s. Now it’s just a bunch of shit in my bedroom that annoys my wife. It’s nice to have it all though. Here recently I’ve been using my Genesis 6 button arcade stick on the Steam deck and playing classic mortal kombat. I hardly ever have to buy hardware because I have everything that was made between 1980 and 2005.

It’s like the kid in me who only got two games per console and had to borrow the rest or rent them just exploded. I have a game shelf that my 12 year old self would sit before and cry. I don’t have time for any of it which would make him cry some more.

MudMan,

The thing is, I play a ton of retro games, but I mostly mediate that through RetroAchievements. Since they keep adding new games and have leaderboards and so on it's a great way to have something to follow to help you prioritize your time, instead of standing in front of a wall of boxes paralyzed between replaying Sonic 2 or trying some obscure thing you got seven times in bundles.

But I still love having original hardware in working order plugged into a CRT. It's just almost an archeological pursuit. A shrine to what all these repurposed games I play on modern hardware used to actually look like. And it's fun to fiddle with them for maintenance.

theangryseal,

I feel you there. It’s funny, you described me last night exactly and I played about 10 minutes of sonic 2 haha. Everything is plugged into an old Apple color monitor. I love that thing and I’ve had it all my life.

I’m gonna check that out. I had never heard of it.

prole,

Lol I literally did that twice yesterday with two seperate games…

But yeah, I also have a PS5, and it’s great to just hit X and go.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

PC represents more than half of the market at this point, which we’ve seen in investor reports from the likes of Ubisoft and Capcom, even if many PC players are annoyed by fiddling.

MudMan,

Not true. Or very incomplete, at least. By the newest reports the market is 49% mobile, 28% console and 23% PC, but that's by revenue, not player counts.

See, if you wanted to torture stats to shoo me away, you should have gone by the market share of GOG, which is quite small. Technically by the numbers they'd be smarter to prioritize getting Roblox and Fortnite working first.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I definitely don’t consider mobile to be the same market, for what you must find to be obvious reasons. I’m not sure where GOG comes into this discussion at all.

MudMan,

I swear, online contrarians don't even bother to read what they respond to now.

GOG comes into play because you're arguing about the necessity of Steam offering third party store support in SteamOS game mode. Welcome back to the conversation you're actually having.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

In an online forum, where you can write a paragraph, the replies you get may or may not pertain to the entire conversation and instead only one part of it. I responded only to the size of the market used to fiddling, and that’s the conversation you and I were having. However, you seem like an extremely unpleasant person, or maybe someone who just had a bad day, so I’m not interested in continuing that conversation.

MudMan,

It really isn't mandatory. I applaud the walking away. My day is average to decent, honestly.

And no, you're making excuses. This isn't Twitter, it's well threaded. I expect you to understand what you're replying to. Especially if you butt in two posts from the start of the thread.

gnygnygny,

Really look around it’s more and more like X.

MudMan,

I guess it depends on what you're using? I'm on Fedia and this is very readable. Good indenting and color coding and stuff. Some real 90s forum energy to it.

gnygnygny,

I gonna try that

SomethingBurger,

Playnite integrates all launchers into one with a controller friendly UI but it’s only available on Windows.

MudMan, (edited )

Yeah, there are a bunch of alternatives. I don't even think it's as much of a problem on Desktop Linux, where having Steam and Heroic/Lutris going at the same time isn't a big deal.

But all the hoops to integrate other launchers inside Steam Game Mode and the friction in trying to use them reliably in that environment are just not mainstream viable or functional. As long as that works the way it currently does I'll default my handleds to autobooting into Windows Big Picture instead.

Which, by the way, is totally a thing you can do. People always act like there's a much bigger gap than there actually is between those two options. You mostly only lose the well integrated display and power controls, which may be a bigger or smaller deal depending on what your Windows handheld uses instead.

bassomitron,

I 100% agree with you on your first 2 paragraphs. I really love my Deck, but God damn is it annoying getting things like Battle.net, GOG, and/or Epic games working inside of it in Game Mode sometimes.

Apps like NonSteamLaunchers or Heroic help a lot, but they don’t always work smoothly. Like I had the itch to try out WoW again this week after not playing for numerous years (I’d heard War Within was really good). Getting battle.net installed and working within Game Mode was a major pain in the ass. I’d done it a few months ago for Diablo 4 without much headache, but somehow when I tried launching BNet last night, it wouldn’t. NonSteamLauncher’s BNet integrator also wasn’t working for whatever reason. So I had to do a few workarounds before I got one that worked.

It’s scenarios like that where I truly wish Valve would try harder to work with companies like Epic or Blizzard to get better native integration. I know Epic is a competitor, but really it’d be beneficial for both companies to have good integration between each other. I’m much more inclined to buy games on Epic if I can easily play them on my Deck, and I’m more lore inclined to stay within Steam’s ecosystem if I’m not constantly encountering these annoying obstacles. It will likely never happen, but I can dream

As for your last paragraph, are you referring to wiping your Deck and just installing Windows? I’ve been hesitant to do that due to how often I use the sleep mode function in games. I’ve tried using sleep mode on my desktop PC like that when I can’t save a game and I need to stop to do other stuff, and it’s really hit or miss if a game will resume without issue after waking. Have you had any problems? Also, how is your battery life impacted? The Deck has crazy good battery life, and I attribute a lot of that to how efficient the underlying OS is with power management, but maybe I’m wrong. Also, do you have issues with drivers? The APU on the Deck is a custom AMD chipset, but have people ported the drivers for it over to Windows now?

MudMan,

Oh, no, I'm talking about Windows native handhelds, which may be getting SteamOS support in the future, as per the original post.

I think a lot of people (reviewers included, weirdly) assume that you need to navigate those with a mouse replacement every time, so you get a lot of complaints about how bad using Windows without a mouse is compared to Steam OS on Game Mode. But you can absolutely set up Steam to a) autolaunch on boot, and b) launch straight into Big Picture mode. At that point once you unlock your Windows handheld you're straight in the Steam fullscreen mode interface and can do everything (within Steam) with a controller.

Not that I think tapping the Steam icon to manually open it up is that much of a hassle, anyway.

I do have a Deck, but they never made good on their early promises to make it easy to use with Windows. Which they did make, I remember. But nope, if you have a Deck you should probably stick to Steam OS. Valve should just find a better way to integrate third party launchers.

bassomitron,

Ahhh, I misunderstood your earlier comment, my bad. Yeah, if I had a windows handheld, setting it up to boot straight into Steam Big Picture would be a no-brainer for me, just as a minor QOL thing.

As for your other point, I don’t remember them saying that, but that’s pretty crappy they fell through on delivering on that promise. I’m just hoping as SteamOS/Linux gaming continues growing in popularity that developers just start putting more effort into native support.

xavier666,

I have tried it but Big Picture mode in Windows is extremely limited because

  • Cannot change system settings (Power usage/fan-curve/FPS/Refresh rate)
  • Cannot add Bluetooth device (controller/headphone) within Steam; need to switch back to Windows
  • Floating windows interfere with application focus since there is no gamescope. You need to use the touchscreen from time to time which is annoying
  • No Decky Loader
xavier666,

The current way to play Epic/GoG/Amazon games on the Steam Deck is

  • Switch to desktop mode
  • From the app store, search for Heroic Launcher and install
  • Launch Heroic
  • Put login credentials for Epic/GoG/Amazon
  • Wait for your library to get populated
  • Install the games
  • Add Heroic as a non-Steam application
  • Switch back to Big Picture mode
  • Launch Heroic
  • Play games

While the number of steps seems like a lot, if you compare against the Windows equivalent, it’s not a lot simply because Windows has no Big Picture/console mode. I personally hate the desktop mode in Windows because I’m forced to use the touchscreen constantly.

What would you like to be changed in this process?

MudMan, (edited )

I am aware of the set of steps, but a) I've had issues getting it to work in the past, particularly getting new games to install under Steam as opposed to adding them in Desktop mode every time and b) what I want is an official way to install and launch third party games, or at least third party launchers from within Steam, the way GOG Galaxy or even Heroic itself supports.

Right now, I play those on Windows handhelds instead, where the steps are:

  • Boot the device
  • Click on the launcher you want

Which is similar to doing this on Linux desktop, where the steps are:

  • Boot the device
  • Click on the launcher you want

Oh, and for the record, as I said above, Windows absolutely does have a Big Picture mode. You can set up Steam to launch on boot straight into Big Picture. If all you want is to play Steam games you never have to use the Desktop on Windows either. Because I do play a ton of GOG games and emulation over Retroarch I prefer to boot into Desktop where my launchers are pinned to the taskbar, so it's literally one tap to open whichever launcher I want. But Steam absolutely goes into Big Picture after that. Like I said earlier the only functional difference is that the settings button brings up the proprietary screen and power manager instead of the SteamOS Game Mode alternative, but otherwise the Steam interface is much the same.

Why do people not realize this is the case? Big Picture was available on Windows (at boot, even) long before the Deck happened. I've been a longtime Steam-on-TV user, this isn't new.

xavier666,

what I want is an official way to install and launch third party games, or at least third party launchers from within Steam

While I think this would be great for everybody, but I think the money-oriented guys inside Valve would think it’s a bad idea. If you present an easy way to install other launcher to the masses, people will be swayed away from buying from the Steam store. Valve wants publishers to stay on their store; that is their trump card. I remember someone tried putting an alternate store on Steam Store and it was quickly removed to avoid legal troubles.

Windows absolutely does have a Big Picture mode. You can set up Steam to launch on boot straight into Big Picture. If all you want is to play Steam games you never have to use the Desktop on Windows either

BigPicture in Windows is extremely nerfed compared to Bazzite/SteamOS which I have detailed in this comment and further elaborated in this post. The tl;dr version is “yes you can use BigPicture but you still have to deal with a lot of Windows shenanigans”

Source: I’m a user of both Steam Deck OLED and ROG Ally.___

MudMan,

Yeah, man, I have a bunch of Windows handhelds and both Deck models. I... may have a problem, but I know how it works.

And yeah, I do realize that the Deck and SteamOS game mode doubles as an attempt to complete Valve's dominance over the PC market. I just think that sucks. If GOG can allow you to integrate Epic and Steam then so can Steam. And until they do that, the Deck is less useful to me than a Windows handheld because I keep as much of my gaming library as possible within GOG.

For the record, your posts kinda misrepresent how Big Picture works in practice. Like I said, yeah, you can't change power and screen settings (and bluetooth) directly on Steam, but most Windows handhelds have a shortcut button with those options in it that is, let's be honest, just copying the Steam version. Depending on your brand it is more or less useful, but it's not like you have to whip out a mouse to do those things. I still think most of those implementations are worse than SteamOS's fully integrated version, and Big Picture over Windows is overall a bit laggier and less responsive... but I mean, it's close enough and it absolutely beats being cut off from several thousand games.

xavier666,

While I don’t agree with you on the usability of Big Picture on Windows, I certainly agree with you on one point; it would be great if other game launchers could be seamlessly installed on the Steam Deck.

However I’m happy that other launchers are available for those who go through the slightly lengthy process.

PS: I don’t agree there are 1000s of games not able to run on the Steam Deck, it’s mostly these games on the list. (areweanticheatyet.com)

MudMan,

No, I'm not saying I'm cut off from running thousands of games. I'm cut off from thousands of games that I own already in other libraries and I can't play on a Steam Deck out of the box.

Most of them would gladly run just fine if I bought them off of Valve. But since I already bought them I'm not buying them again. So I'm cut off. So I'll default to Windows until that changes.

vonxylofon, do games w U8: Cheap gaming handheld for under $50 offers long battery life

As is often the case with such affordable retro handhelds, there’s no internal storage, but two card slots are available. One of these microSD cards should contain the operating system, while the other can be used to store games.

We have come the full circle. exotech.bm/wp-content/uploads/…/imb-pc-5150.jpg

JusticeForPorygon, do games w Nintendo stock falls after mixed reaction from Switch 2 announcement
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly I kinda liked the “chill” announcement. No overhyping themselves only to disappoint. Fans are plenty capable of doing that themselves.

shasta,

Only because it got leaked early, denying them the opportunity to hype anything

Nikls94, do games w U8: Cheap gaming handheld for under $50 offers long battery life

Based on the system hardware it’s not worth it IMO. Too many limitations with that 1GB of RAM. People with less money who just want to play games and rom hacks would still have a blast though.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

That's plenty for retro emulation, probably even overkill for the systems you can emulate on that RK3326 chip. I've been rocking a Miyoo Mini Plus which I picked up for about the same price two years ago, and that has 128MB RAM.

You get what you pay for, these obviously aren't meant to be high-end cutting-edge devices, but for the price they're a pretty good deal for all the classics you can play.

jordanlund, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S
!deleted7836 avatar

Low bar. :) The Xbox One X has more RAM than the Xbox Series S.

hypelightfly,

So does the Steam Deck and some phones.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

More shocking is the speed of the RAM involved.

Xbox Series S
8 GB running at 224 GB/s
2 GB at 56 GB/s

By comparison:

Xbox Series X
16 GB @ 560 GB/s

PS5
16 GB @ 448 GB/s

Xbox One X
12 GB @ 326.4 GB/s

Steam Deck
16 GB @ 88 GB/s

Switch
4 GB @ 25.6 GB/s

hypelightfly,

You're highlighting the slower 2GB but in reality that's not used by games in the first place. They're relegated to the 8GB which is significantly faster.

The Steam Deck has essentially 2x the available memory but it's much slower. The point being "having more RAM" isn't some amazing feat. It really depends on all the involved specs. Even amount/bandwidth isn't enough. GDDR has much higher bandwidth than DDR or LPDDR but it's also higher latency. It's tuned for graphics, not system RAM depending on the work load one can be faster than the other.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

If it had 10 GB at the higher speed it would still be hamstrung, but not as badly as it is with 8 GB and 2 GB that’s essentially unusable except for maybe UI overlays.

hypelightfly, (edited )

The 2 is mostly used by the OS. Yes, it would be better if it was all faster but it still wouldn't be used by the GPU as it's segmented.

It's all moot to my original point though. Having more RAM isn't some miracle or a sign it will be faster.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

More shocking is the speed of the RAM involved.

Xbox Series S
8 GB running at 224 GB/s
2 GB at 56 GB/s

By comparison:

Xbox Series X
16 GB @ 560 GB/s

PS5
16 GB @ 448 GB/s

Xbox One X
12 GB @ 326.4 GB/s

Steam Deck
16 GB @ 88 GB/s

Switch
4 GB @ 25.6 GB/s

narc0tic_bird,

The Series X also has two speed tiers. 10 GB @ 560 GB/s, and 6 GB at 336 GB/s.

Dominic,

That 25.6 GB/s memory bandwidth is apparently the Switch’s bottleneck.

TheBat, do games w 'Powered bv SteamOS' gaming handheld validation leaks in Valve documentation, Asus ROG Ally may be among first handhelds with official SteamOS support
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I want SteamOS on desktop 😅

airportline,
@airportline@lemmy.ml avatar

Check out Bazzite. It even has a GNOME variant.

prole,

I second Bazzite. It’s been a phenomenal experience on my laptop.

Interestingly, I was messing with BoxBuddy a week or two ago, and looking at what distroboxes were available to install, and there’s a SteamOS container on there. Not sure if it’s official or what, but I was able to run games on it (though absolutely unnecessary).

elucubra,

How is bazzite as a daily driver?

murky0106,

Pretty solid on desktop. Most issues i have are upstteam and not bazzite related. Main annoying thing is you can’t install fedora packages and have to mainly rely on appimages and flatpaks

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I use my Deck docked regularly. In desktop use I see no benefit over Fedora and alike.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

What are you hoping to get from SteamOS that you aren't able to get from any other Linux distro?

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I just think it’d be neat to have a gaming Linux distro, made by a company that distributes games. Maybe it will be a standard distro for game developers to test their games.

dustyData,

No system management. A set once and forget it system, ala console style, but with the potential of off the shelf high power components for PC games on the living room is a quality proposition.

Railcar8095,

Bazzite as HTPC and you can do that already, if you want to test your dream.

dustyData,

Sure, but the support, both technical and reputational that a steam OS compatible machine brings would steer the market for more accessible and purpose made components. Bazzite is awesome and my daily driver, but it doesn’t have the fancy endorsement of Valve, the owner of the largest game store in the world today.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’m hoping to build my first Desktop soon and i’m praying that Valve gets an Official SteamOS release out by then. I’d kill to have it.

xavier666,

I’d kill to have it

US army: Heyyy

Zoomboingding, do games w Valve rumored to be working on Android emulator for Steam
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

No idea why it’s difficult to run android on PC in the first place. Windows 11 can do it, but I’m clinging to 10 until it’s gone.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Have you heard the good news about Linux?

SatyrSack, (edited )

It is still surprisingly far from straightforward to get it working

EDIT: I mean Android on Linux is difficult. Not Linux itself.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Fair enough. I’m just fulfilling Lemmy’s contractual obligation to mention Linux any time someone doesn’t want to “upgrade” to Windows 11.

xavier666,

Linus pays me $100 a month for spamming Linux. You also get payed, right?

hoch,

Every. Fucking. Thread.

TheGalacticVoid,

“Hey instead of complaining about a few minor annoyances on Windows, why not just switch to Linux?”

Like I have many uses for Linux and appreciate it, but the amount of suggestions that I see telling someone that Linux is the fix is way too many

The point here is that MS made a pretty killer feature that was easy to set up, and it failed because nobody used it.

FreeLikeGNU,

In the end you are still at the mercy of their shareholders and their core mission of EEE over end-user empowerment. Every thing they build is designed with lock-in and obfuscation to protect themselves.

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

I fear becoming that guy, can you call me out if I do? Cheers.

xavier666,

Not a priority for Microsoft anymore.

theverge.com/…/microsoft-windows-11-android-apps-…

IronKrill,
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

Still pisses me off, this was one of the reasons I updated and they half-assed the implemenation then said they’re killing it because no one is using it… no shit no one is using it, you hid it it behind the Amazon App (that no one uses) in the MS Store (that no one uses) and layers of docs for sideloading.

ms_lane,

It’s been around in one form or another since the Windows Phone 10 days, it was a weird beta that would sometimes work and required a lot of faffing about.

t3rmit3, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S

“8gb of DDR3!”

lowleveldata,

DDR3 rams are more expensive than other options at this point

t3rmit3,

don’t know where you got that idea, but 16gb of ddr3 can be gotten easily for $30, as where 16gb of ddr5 is going to run you $100 minimum (talking retail prices, obv)

lowleveldata,

Really? Where I live I can’t really get DDR3 rams anymore

Lojcs,

Just looked up the cheapest new 16G options in Turkey

  • Ddr3: 1195₺ ~ $44
  • Ddr4: 837₺ ~ $31
  • Ddr5: 1179₺ ~ $44

Ddr5 is cheaper than you think

b9chomps,
@b9chomps@beehaw.org avatar

I think there is a difference (like you said) between you picking up 2 sticks of remaining DDR3 stock and a console manufacturer sourcing it for their new console.

Poggervania, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

More RAM doesn’t really mean anything in gaming performance. It helps, but a faster CPU and GPU with a good whack of VRAM is gonna help more.

Primarily0617,

arguably RAM matters the most

gpu and cpu you can just downgrade the quality, but at a certain point everything has to fit into memory

e.g., baldur's gate 3 literally couldn't be properly ported to the S because of a RAM limitation

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Oh shit, really? Wasn’t even aware of that lol, I always had the generally recommended amount of RAM in my gaming rig so I never thought that would be a thing.

dom,

There is a point where more ram doesnt help and maybe that’s what you are thinking of. It’s more “must be this tall to ride” from my understanding

EddoWagt,

Also, textures, usually they don’t really cost performance and absolutely change the visuals of a game, but can be massively limited by a lack of ram

HellAwaits,

not even remotely true.

crmsnbleyd,
@crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz avatar

Consoles have shared RAM between CPU and GPU, more RAM is more VRAM

Never_Sm1le,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

You are thinking from pc pov. PS3 is perhaps the last major home console that have dedicated ram and vram, maybe 3ds had it on the handheld front

narc0tic_bird,

Not sure about 3DS, but the PlayStation Vita had 128 MB of VRAM in addition to the 512 MB of system RAM.

katze, do games w PS5 beats PS4 in monthly players for the first time

Wow, it’s been five years. I wonder how much time did it take for ps4 to beat ps3.

LandedGentry, (edited )

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  • LorIps, (edited )
    @LorIps@lemmy.world avatar

    I think the other aspect is that we have the statistics now. I would assume that the PS2 had more monthly users than the PS3 for quite a long time maybe even up to the PS4. Same with the Wii and WiiU and going farther back quite possibly the NES than the SNES, SNES than the N64, C64 than the Amiga, etc.

    network_switch,

    I think DC Universe Online went free to play before the PS4 came out. Don’t recall any other. PC had a lot of free to play games during the PS3 era though. Shooting games like Crossfire and Americas Army. A ton of free to play MMOs and I think it came out like halfway through the PS3 era, League of Legends

    Psythik, do games w Nintendo stock falls after mixed reaction from Switch 2 announcement

    lol good. Fuck Nintendo

    refurbishedrefurbisher, do games w New Windows gamepad keyboard will soon make typing on Legion Go, Asus ROG Ally more like the Steam Deck

    Hard to replicate the typing experience on the Deck when the hardware doesn’t have dual trackpads.

    Corigan,

    I should read the comments before posting. I had the same thought.

    qevlarr, do games w Valve rumored to be working on Android emulator for Steam
    @qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

    If this means I can play my Steam games on my phone… Yay! 🎉

    PieMePlenty,

    More like the other way round.

    You can stream steam games to your phone with steam link thought.

    qevlarr,
    @qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

    Wait, but Steam doesn’t have Android games, right?

    bitwaba,

    Yeah. Stream your android games from your phone to your steam deck so you can stream them to your phone!

    squirrel,
    @squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Stream the stream from your stream to stream it to your stream.

    grayhaze,
    @grayhaze@lemmy.world avatar

    Which is what they’re rumored to be working on. Hence the post.

    SatyrSack,

    Yet

    xavier666,

    While I welcome Android games on Steam, a part of me is repulsed by how Android game devs treat their customers; in-game ads, horrendous amount of mtx, p2w. Not saying that Steam games don’t suffer mtx but it’s way lesser.

    Anyway, let’s see how it goes.

    pathief,
    @pathief@lemmy.world avatar

    The main problem is the amount of REALLY bad games. It’s very hard to find decent games, most of them are intentionally unplayable garbage.

    xavier666,

    We need a dedicated Green Light with Dev guidelines for Android games. Or at least a separate store section for them. I really don’t want to get flooded by low-effort mobile games.

    helenslunch, (edited )
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Honestly Steam is WAY overdue for an Android store.

    Although it seems like putting the cart before the horse if they’re developing Android support for Steam Deck before launching a game store.

    tourist,
    @tourist@lemmy.world avatar

    Finally

    Steam phones on my game

    smeg,

    You can sort of do that with Winlator, but it’s pretty early tech!

    gaytswiftfan, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S

    in typical nintendo fashion the bar for hardware is on the floor

    Lost_My_Mind, do games w U8: Cheap gaming handheld for under $50 offers long battery life

    Oh I’m sure tarrifs will bring the price up to $400 and your left testicle.

    Alphane_Moon,
    @Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t live in the US. The price in local currency was close enough to $50.

    zipzoopaboop,

    Considering no ships having been going stateside from China, will Americans receive it at all?

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