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PattyP, do games w EA reportedly shelves Need For Speed completely to focus on other projects

Yet more evidence that the next decade may not be a good time to be a fan of racing games. Feels bad.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

To be fair, Kirby Air Ride is finally getting a sequel, and that may as well be the only racing game we'll ever need ever again.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The indie and AA scene have finally started catching up to those tastes of mine that AAA left behind in the racing genre, for what it’s worth. What are you looking for?

simple,
@simple@piefed.social avatar

First they cancel Dirt Rally (later known as EA WRC), now they cancel need for speed... At this point the only AAA racing games left will be Forza.

Nikls94, do games w U8: Cheap gaming handheld for under $50 offers long battery life

Based on the system hardware it’s not worth it IMO. Too many limitations with that 1GB of RAM. People with less money who just want to play games and rom hacks would still have a blast though.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

That's plenty for retro emulation, probably even overkill for the systems you can emulate on that RK3326 chip. I've been rocking a Miyoo Mini Plus which I picked up for about the same price two years ago, and that has 128MB RAM.

You get what you pay for, these obviously aren't meant to be high-end cutting-edge devices, but for the price they're a pretty good deal for all the classics you can play.

jordanlund, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S
!deleted7836 avatar

Low bar. :) The Xbox One X has more RAM than the Xbox Series S.

hypelightfly,

So does the Steam Deck and some phones.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

More shocking is the speed of the RAM involved.

Xbox Series S
8 GB running at 224 GB/s
2 GB at 56 GB/s

By comparison:

Xbox Series X
16 GB @ 560 GB/s

PS5
16 GB @ 448 GB/s

Xbox One X
12 GB @ 326.4 GB/s

Steam Deck
16 GB @ 88 GB/s

Switch
4 GB @ 25.6 GB/s

hypelightfly,

You're highlighting the slower 2GB but in reality that's not used by games in the first place. They're relegated to the 8GB which is significantly faster.

The Steam Deck has essentially 2x the available memory but it's much slower. The point being "having more RAM" isn't some amazing feat. It really depends on all the involved specs. Even amount/bandwidth isn't enough. GDDR has much higher bandwidth than DDR or LPDDR but it's also higher latency. It's tuned for graphics, not system RAM depending on the work load one can be faster than the other.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

If it had 10 GB at the higher speed it would still be hamstrung, but not as badly as it is with 8 GB and 2 GB that’s essentially unusable except for maybe UI overlays.

hypelightfly, (edited )

The 2 is mostly used by the OS. Yes, it would be better if it was all faster but it still wouldn't be used by the GPU as it's segmented.

It's all moot to my original point though. Having more RAM isn't some miracle or a sign it will be faster.

jordanlund,
!deleted7836 avatar

More shocking is the speed of the RAM involved.

Xbox Series S
8 GB running at 224 GB/s
2 GB at 56 GB/s

By comparison:

Xbox Series X
16 GB @ 560 GB/s

PS5
16 GB @ 448 GB/s

Xbox One X
12 GB @ 326.4 GB/s

Steam Deck
16 GB @ 88 GB/s

Switch
4 GB @ 25.6 GB/s

narc0tic_bird,

The Series X also has two speed tiers. 10 GB @ 560 GB/s, and 6 GB at 336 GB/s.

Dominic,

That 25.6 GB/s memory bandwidth is apparently the Switch’s bottleneck.

CubitOom, do games w EA reportedly shelves Need For Speed completely to focus on other projects

JDM: Japanese Drift Master is looking good right about now.

TheBat, do games w 'Powered bv SteamOS' gaming handheld validation leaks in Valve documentation, Asus ROG Ally may be among first handhelds with official SteamOS support
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I want SteamOS on desktop 😅

airportline,
@airportline@lemmy.ml avatar

Check out Bazzite. It even has a GNOME variant.

prole,

I second Bazzite. It’s been a phenomenal experience on my laptop.

Interestingly, I was messing with BoxBuddy a week or two ago, and looking at what distroboxes were available to install, and there’s a SteamOS container on there. Not sure if it’s official or what, but I was able to run games on it (though absolutely unnecessary).

elucubra,

How is bazzite as a daily driver?

murky0106,

Pretty solid on desktop. Most issues i have are upstteam and not bazzite related. Main annoying thing is you can’t install fedora packages and have to mainly rely on appimages and flatpaks

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I use my Deck docked regularly. In desktop use I see no benefit over Fedora and alike.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

What are you hoping to get from SteamOS that you aren't able to get from any other Linux distro?

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I just think it’d be neat to have a gaming Linux distro, made by a company that distributes games. Maybe it will be a standard distro for game developers to test their games.

dustyData,

No system management. A set once and forget it system, ala console style, but with the potential of off the shelf high power components for PC games on the living room is a quality proposition.

Railcar8095,

Bazzite as HTPC and you can do that already, if you want to test your dream.

dustyData,

Sure, but the support, both technical and reputational that a steam OS compatible machine brings would steer the market for more accessible and purpose made components. Bazzite is awesome and my daily driver, but it doesn’t have the fancy endorsement of Valve, the owner of the largest game store in the world today.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’m hoping to build my first Desktop soon and i’m praying that Valve gets an Official SteamOS release out by then. I’d kill to have it.

xavier666,

I’d kill to have it

US army: Heyyy

Zoomboingding, do games w Valve rumored to be working on Android emulator for Steam
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

No idea why it’s difficult to run android on PC in the first place. Windows 11 can do it, but I’m clinging to 10 until it’s gone.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Have you heard the good news about Linux?

SatyrSack, (edited )

It is still surprisingly far from straightforward to get it working

EDIT: I mean Android on Linux is difficult. Not Linux itself.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Fair enough. I’m just fulfilling Lemmy’s contractual obligation to mention Linux any time someone doesn’t want to “upgrade” to Windows 11.

xavier666,

Linus pays me $100 a month for spamming Linux. You also get payed, right?

hoch,

Every. Fucking. Thread.

TheGalacticVoid,

“Hey instead of complaining about a few minor annoyances on Windows, why not just switch to Linux?”

Like I have many uses for Linux and appreciate it, but the amount of suggestions that I see telling someone that Linux is the fix is way too many

The point here is that MS made a pretty killer feature that was easy to set up, and it failed because nobody used it.

FreeLikeGNU,

In the end you are still at the mercy of their shareholders and their core mission of EEE over end-user empowerment. Every thing they build is designed with lock-in and obfuscation to protect themselves.

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

I fear becoming that guy, can you call me out if I do? Cheers.

xavier666,

Not a priority for Microsoft anymore.

theverge.com/…/microsoft-windows-11-android-apps-…

IronKrill,
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

Still pisses me off, this was one of the reasons I updated and they half-assed the implemenation then said they’re killing it because no one is using it… no shit no one is using it, you hid it it behind the Amazon App (that no one uses) in the MS Store (that no one uses) and layers of docs for sideloading.

ms_lane,

It’s been around in one form or another since the Windows Phone 10 days, it was a weird beta that would sometimes work and required a lot of faffing about.

t3rmit3, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S

“8gb of DDR3!”

lowleveldata,

DDR3 rams are more expensive than other options at this point

t3rmit3,

don’t know where you got that idea, but 16gb of ddr3 can be gotten easily for $30, as where 16gb of ddr5 is going to run you $100 minimum (talking retail prices, obv)

lowleveldata,

Really? Where I live I can’t really get DDR3 rams anymore

Lojcs,

Just looked up the cheapest new 16G options in Turkey

  • Ddr3: 1195₺ ~ $44
  • Ddr4: 837₺ ~ $31
  • Ddr5: 1179₺ ~ $44

Ddr5 is cheaper than you think

b9chomps,
@b9chomps@beehaw.org avatar

I think there is a difference (like you said) between you picking up 2 sticks of remaining DDR3 stock and a console manufacturer sourcing it for their new console.

Poggervania, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

More RAM doesn’t really mean anything in gaming performance. It helps, but a faster CPU and GPU with a good whack of VRAM is gonna help more.

Primarily0617,

arguably RAM matters the most

gpu and cpu you can just downgrade the quality, but at a certain point everything has to fit into memory

e.g., baldur's gate 3 literally couldn't be properly ported to the S because of a RAM limitation

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Oh shit, really? Wasn’t even aware of that lol, I always had the generally recommended amount of RAM in my gaming rig so I never thought that would be a thing.

dom,

There is a point where more ram doesnt help and maybe that’s what you are thinking of. It’s more “must be this tall to ride” from my understanding

EddoWagt,

Also, textures, usually they don’t really cost performance and absolutely change the visuals of a game, but can be massively limited by a lack of ram

HellAwaits,

not even remotely true.

crmsnbleyd,
@crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz avatar

Consoles have shared RAM between CPU and GPU, more RAM is more VRAM

Never_Sm1le,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

You are thinking from pc pov. PS3 is perhaps the last major home console that have dedicated ram and vram, maybe 3ds had it on the handheld front

narc0tic_bird,

Not sure about 3DS, but the PlayStation Vita had 128 MB of VRAM in addition to the 512 MB of system RAM.

kurcatovium, do games w Ubisoft EULA demanding consumers destroy delisted games adds fuel to Stop Killing Games movement
@kurcatovium@piefed.social avatar

Classic Ubishit...

zqps,

Poopysoft

katze, do games w PS5 beats PS4 in monthly players for the first time

Wow, it’s been five years. I wonder how much time did it take for ps4 to beat ps3.

LandedGentry, (edited )

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  • LorIps, (edited )
    @LorIps@lemmy.world avatar

    I think the other aspect is that we have the statistics now. I would assume that the PS2 had more monthly users than the PS3 for quite a long time maybe even up to the PS4. Same with the Wii and WiiU and going farther back quite possibly the NES than the SNES, SNES than the N64, C64 than the Amiga, etc.

    network_switch,

    I think DC Universe Online went free to play before the PS4 came out. Don’t recall any other. PC had a lot of free to play games during the PS3 era though. Shooting games like Crossfire and Americas Army. A ton of free to play MMOs and I think it came out like halfway through the PS3 era, League of Legends

    Psythik, do games w Nintendo stock falls after mixed reaction from Switch 2 announcement

    lol good. Fuck Nintendo

    refurbishedrefurbisher, do games w New Windows gamepad keyboard will soon make typing on Legion Go, Asus ROG Ally more like the Steam Deck

    Hard to replicate the typing experience on the Deck when the hardware doesn’t have dual trackpads.

    Corigan,

    I should read the comments before posting. I had the same thought.

    qevlarr, do games w Valve rumored to be working on Android emulator for Steam
    @qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

    If this means I can play my Steam games on my phone… Yay! 🎉

    PieMePlenty,

    More like the other way round.

    You can stream steam games to your phone with steam link thought.

    qevlarr,
    @qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

    Wait, but Steam doesn’t have Android games, right?

    bitwaba,

    Yeah. Stream your android games from your phone to your steam deck so you can stream them to your phone!

    squirrel,
    @squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Stream the stream from your stream to stream it to your stream.

    grayhaze,
    @grayhaze@lemmy.world avatar

    Which is what they’re rumored to be working on. Hence the post.

    SatyrSack,

    Yet

    xavier666,

    While I welcome Android games on Steam, a part of me is repulsed by how Android game devs treat their customers; in-game ads, horrendous amount of mtx, p2w. Not saying that Steam games don’t suffer mtx but it’s way lesser.

    Anyway, let’s see how it goes.

    pathief,
    @pathief@lemmy.world avatar

    The main problem is the amount of REALLY bad games. It’s very hard to find decent games, most of them are intentionally unplayable garbage.

    xavier666,

    We need a dedicated Green Light with Dev guidelines for Android games. Or at least a separate store section for them. I really don’t want to get flooded by low-effort mobile games.

    helenslunch, (edited )
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Honestly Steam is WAY overdue for an Android store.

    Although it seems like putting the cart before the horse if they’re developing Android support for Steam Deck before launching a game store.

    tourist,
    @tourist@lemmy.world avatar

    Finally

    Steam phones on my game

    smeg,

    You can sort of do that with Winlator, but it’s pretty early tech!

    gaytswiftfan, do gaming w Consumer Nintendo Switch 2 rumored to have more RAM than the Xbox Series S

    in typical nintendo fashion the bar for hardware is on the floor

    justlemmyin, do games w EA reportedly shelves Need For Speed completely to focus on other projects

    NFS 2000 Porsche Unleashed was peak NFS, its been downhill ever since.

    cyberpunk007,

    Man I think underground 2 was so my favorite

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