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teft, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison
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IMHO Elden Ring isn’t the most difficult fromsoft game.

That honor goes to Sekiro.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
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I 100% agree. Sekiro is my favorite of them all.

iAmTheTot,

Elden Ring may in fact be the easiest From game tbh.

magic_lobster_party,

Coming from ER to DS3 I think DS3 is much easier. I didn’t put much thought into my build and it was a breeze. I beat many bosses first try.

Much of the difficulty in ER comes from the often hard to telegraph attacks.

RightHandOfIkaros,

You might be inclined to say that if you don’t really know much of the games From has made.

The Adventures of Cookie and Cream on PS2 was a very easy game by comparison.

iAmTheTot,

Lol, okay fair, but I think it’s pretty common to be referring to the “soulslike” genre when you say a From game.

PraiseTheSoup,

Considering they released at least 5 Armored Core games before even their very first souls-like, Demon’s Souls, which was not widely played, I am inclined to disagree.

micka190,

Honestly, if you go back and play the older souls games after Elden Ring, you’ll see that they’re a lot easier than Elden Ring, unless you summon Mimic Tear for every boss fight, I guess. But on a “player vs boss” scale, the fights in the older games are much easier than some of the later ones in Elden Ring (especially if you factor in the DLC).

iAmTheTot,

I have hundreds of hours in all the Souls games. I still say Elden Ring is easiest overall.

RightHandOfIkaros,

The thing that makes Elden Ring much easier is the fact that there is always somewhere else the player can make progress. In Dark Souls, you follow a more or less linear path and if you felt underleveled you had to grind enemies because you could not make any further progress until you pass where you got stuck. In Elden Ring, you can go to a different area completely and make a bit more progress there. From Limgrave, the player can choose to go to Stormveil, skip Stormveil and go to Liurnia Lake, go to Southern Limgrave, or go to Caelid if they’re a psycopath. This is in addition to all the helpers From has given players. Strong magic (compared to Souls games), Summons that are available to the player literally anywhere on top of the same Gold Message Summons from the Souls games, two moves that give players i-frames, etc.

Sure, if you play it like its a Souls game then it might seem hard, but if you play it as the action adventure RPG it is designed to be, the game is significantly easier than Souls games.

micka190,

I get what you’re saying, but I feel like you’re way underselling how hard the Elden Ring bosses are compared to the Dark Souls bosses (the actual bosses, not the re-used late-game enemies with bigger health pool in random dungeons). I don’t think there’s a single Dark Souls boss that comes anywhere close to any of the bosses from Morgoth and onward (Fire Giant excluded, obviously). Morgoth, Godfrey, Radagon, Malenia, and all the DLC bosses are much harder than anything the Souls series has seen (unless you count broken/janky mechanics like Witch of Izalith’s garbage-tier hitboxes).

RightHandOfIkaros,

I suppose, but the player could very easily overlevel themselves to make the bosses very easy in Elden Ring. Can’t do that without a big, boring, repetitive time investment in Dark Souls, farming the same enemies in the same location.

Soggy,

Might be worth clarifying Demon’s Souls and onward, some of us are old enough to have played Armored Core.

Mirshe,

Armored Core series, but those have always had a way to cheese through the campaign, almost universally.

skulblaka,
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That honor goes to Demon’s Souls…

teft,
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Not sure why you were downvoted. I found Demon Souls was frustrating more than difficult but to each their own.

heavy,

Just came in here to support Sekiro

Nuke_the_whales,

Elden Ring isn’t difficult, it’s tedious and repetitive. I really didn’t like it

tfw_no_toiletpaper,

Nah Sekiro is great. Sometimes I just pull it up and play it a couple of days because it’s so satisfying. I think Sword Saint Isshin is supposed to be the hardest boss, and it definitely takes a lot of runs until you have him memorized. But on NG+ I first-, or second-tried him. I think all Sekiro bosses are pretty chill once you know them.

Consort Radahn however… I don’t know if I have the will to ever struggle through this fight again

JayDee,

I think you mean the hardest Fromsoft game you liked. Go Beat the original armored core and get back to me. you could also give last raven a shot.

Dkarma, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Battletoads would like a word

Mango, do gaming w It's a classic

If I had a nickel for every time I heard about this, I’d have 10¢ just this week. It’s not a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

EnderMB, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

I didn’t mind TMNT.

What still gives me PTSD is Shadow Of The Beast 2. I was utterly clueless on how to beat that game as a child, and as an adult I can literally watch someone beat it, know what to do, and still fuck it up.

RandomVideos, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

The hardest game is probably just a random game that no one knows about

I would like to submit this game as the hardest one

Ragnarok314159,

Hardest game is Tetris. No matter what, you always lose.

ouRKaoS,

Someone actually beat Tetris in the NES earlier this year. I mean beat, as in into submission. They got far enough that the game couldn’t handle the progression anymore and crashed.

A7thStone,

Which definitely qualifies it for the hardest game. All of the other games everyone is taking about have been beaten multiple times by multiple people. Tetris has been beaten once by one person after almost 50 years.

RandomVideos,

Wasnt it beaten by at least 2 people?

Also, the game i linked to is also one where you have to complete a ridiculous number of levels unintended to ever be reached to “beat” the game

problematicPanther,
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The version I played stopped after level 15. Not sure if it was supposed to happen, I only managed to get that high once. But I contend that I beat the game.

RandomVideos,

As far as i know, level 15 was intentionally made impossible and that people got past level 215

problematicPanther,
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Jesus Christ.

KeefChief13, do games w Day 68 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

I started playing nv yesterday!

Electric_Druid, (edited )

Get ready for a great (and janky) time

finestnothing, do games w Day 67 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

If you want a more realistic (mechanics mainly, better graphics too but still blocky) and survival focused game, vintage story is great. It’s meant to be very realistic (mechanics, not graphics) so it’s a very different play style than Minecraft.

Need storage? Make a reed basket with 8 slots and doesn’t help food preservation, or make a ceramic storage vessel with 12 slots that decreases rate of food spoilage. Manually build clay storage vessels voxel by voxel, put it in a pit kiln, cover in dry grass, sticks, and firewood and let it cook for an in-game day then you’re good to go.

Food? Better hunt, fish, and grow crops. Make soups, stews, jerky, etc - better make sure you have a cellar with sealed jars of food for the winter though. Also need to balance soil nutrients for crops to grow well.

Leather stuff? Have you to kill animals, skin them, get pelts, soak in limewater/borax and water solution in a barrel, scrape them with a knife, soak in weak tannin then strong tannin (made by soaking oak or acacia logs in barrels of water), then you finally have useable hides.

Charcoal? Have to get a bunch of logs, cut them into firewood (crafting recipe so this part is quick), make a 2x2x2 to 11x11x11 hole and fill fully with firewood, light a fire on top, cover, and wait a day. If it’s not fully covered you’re just left with a bunch of ash instead of charcoal.

Metal tools? Have to get the ore/nuggets, melt over a charcoal or hotter fire, pour into ingot mold, hammer and clip it into the desired shape, cool in water. Want to carry something hot by hand? Better have some tongs or you’ll take damage.

Trying to cook inside? Smoke can build up if you don’t have a chimney - and your fire can go out if it’s raining and the chimney is straight down.

Everything takes a lot more work than Minecraft because it’s meant to be more realistic - but there are so many mechanics that it’s a ton of fun to learn and complete stuff. My current playthrough I’m still sifting sand to get enough copper nuggets/items to make a pickaxe to mine some copper ore to make more tools, but I have a nice little stash of vegetable and meat meals stored in crocks in my hole-in-the-ground cellar/bedroom. Still need to get around to making an actual shelter and cellar, but I want a pickaxe first so I can make a nice sized cellar to preserve food through the winter.

Arkive,

Sounds a lot like the TerraFirmaCraft minecraft mod. Actually, after some light searching, it seems Vintage story was inspired by the Vintagecraft mod which was inspired by TerraFirmaCraft.

lemonSqueezy, (edited ) do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Duck Hunt anyone ?. I think I got to middle 20s level. I hate that dog for mocking me on my last level before dying. I almost wish there was a game where I could shoot that dog instead of the ducks.

zod000,

I got all the way through the game once, it reset back to super slow after level 99. I almost lost when that happened because I was so used to it being lightning quick heh.

AngryCommieKender, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Silver Surfer for the NES is way harder than TMNT. It’s possible, though I’ve never done it, to beat TMNT. AFAIK , Silver Surfer is actually possible to beat, but basically no one has done it.

zod000, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Weirdly, that is the only one of the three I have beaten. Zero chance I could do it now of course.

AgentGrimstone, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Imagine souls games giving you only three lives before sending you back to the very beginning of the game.

amw3i7dwgoblinlabs, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison
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Huh you seem tohave used a tmnt cover instead of greg tech new horizons

DaMonsterKnees, do gaming w It's a classic
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Is this about the turnips, cause I swore to return them, I just forgot?!

nutsack, do games w Day 67 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

what do people do in multiplayer Minecraft

Stalinwolf,
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Nearly every server is different, but the ones my friends/wife and I always did (10+ years ago) were like role-playing kingdom building maps. Server owner (usually me) would hold the title of King/Sovereign and appoint their friends to specific roles. I would oversee the general development and expansion of the kingdom, as well as decide and manage a system of ore-based currency (or would at least create the mint and appoint someone to running it). Afterward I would introduce and gradually roll out phases of a larger storyline for anyone who cares.

My left and right hand would build/manage the keeps/barracks/military structures, or the government buildings/libraries/cultural centers, etc. These would all be injected with their own lore and staffed by the person in charge of them. Everyone else would receive more minor roles, but typically be given monopolies in certain types of goods or commerce. Maybe Bob wants to be a trapper. Sure, anyone else can legally go and gather leathers and animal parts, but Bob is the only one permitted to sell those items in his shop in the city. Things like that just to try to keep it interesting. When Bob isn’t trapping or trading or being involved with the kingdom, he’s pretty much just playing Minecraft on his homestead.

The idea is to open it up to the public (via applications and careful vetting) and watch people run amock in the simulated medieval economy. We used to have a blast doing it. Especially with mods installed that added skill progression, abilities at milestones and other MMORPG-esque mechanics.

Normal people, however… They just do what they do in single player but occasionally trade, work together, tackle bosses, and show each other their latest creations.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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Personally I start an industrial empire and get the rest of the server in my back pocket because I’m the only person with supplies to produce Guns and Missiles. But also it just kind of depends on the mod pack.

shadowedcross,
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Not sure since I only ever play with one person, but I’d love to work on one base together with multiple people, with everyone working on their specialities. For example, I have a basic knowledge of most popular tech mods, but I find some of them pretty tedious, so if there were someone who enjoyed them, that’d be great.

shadowedcross, do games w Day 67 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
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My partner and I started playing another modded MC game last night. I always do all the tech mods, automation, digital storage, and building, and she does the magic, farming and husbandry.

We’d been using Fabric for quite a while but since I felt a longing for Mekanism, we decided to make it Forge. It’s not ideal since it isn’t necessarily as performant, and the loading times are a lot longer than Fabric, I just really wanted the convenience that Mekanism offers. Hopefully, more mods and modpacks will switch over to NeoForge.

JackbyDev,

I remember loading Minecraft would take 15 minutes just to get to the start screen with Forge. It might be better now, and it wasn’t always that bad.

shadowedcross,
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It has definitely gotten better, but it’s still several minutes, compared to the minute or less for Fabric.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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Thats how my friend group is. I’m the only tech mod person so I have a monopoly on all the engineering things, and the other 3 have their magic mods

shadowedcross,
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Ha, at least you can get your friend group to play modded MC. When we play it’s usually just the two of us, because our friends don’t wanna deal with all the mods. Sometimes one of them will end up joining, usually by which point I’ve got Applied Energistics setup, which I offer them access to, since at least then they could start their own mod setup more easily.

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