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Uninformed_Tyler, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.

Under promise, over deliver. The other way around only works if you’re trying to capitalize on hype.

echo64,

Nah, just promote what you have. You don’t have to ‘over deliver’, for some reason hiding away the great stuff you made. Just don’t over hype.

Uninformed_Tyler,

This is not a story about a company failing because they hid product capabilities from their customers and were underappreciated because people didn’t realize how good their product was. This is a story of a company over promising in their marketing and failing to deliver.

I stand by what I said in the context of this story, which is what we are discussing. if you don’t know if you can deliver a feature don’t put it out there that you’re trying to make the feature. If customers know you’re working on something and then you can’t deliver they feel like they lost that thing. If they don’t know that you’re working on it and you pull it out of the hat before lunch or even in a post launch update everyone is excited because they feel like they got something extra for free. Obviously on launch you should explain the full capabilities of your product. But again that is not the context of this story.

slaacaa,

You do realize this was a scam?

With some different outcome scenarios for sure, but all of them included some dudes living on salaries payed by investors for a few years, then fucking off into the sunset with a variable amount of pocket change from the day 1 sales.

wildginger,

Is there a source for any of this? Speculation is one thing, but Ive seen people claiming this was made in both unity and unreal, and that some assets are bought, then all assets were bought, that they were only working for 2 years not 5, etc etc etc

Like I know it looks scammy, but whats the hard line people used to actually determine that?

And theres got to be some hard line, since the dayZ team mocked them for this. I dont expect another company to mock a fellow game maker shuttering unless there was harder evidence that they were scammers beyond internet guesswork.

ComputerSagtNein, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.
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They are scammers and nobody should feel sorry for them.

I bet even this was planned from the beginning. Get some money out of the “game” and then just disappear.

avater,
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Get some money out of the “game” and then just disappear.

Is this even possible with the way steam handles the payment of developers? If I remember correctly you get the money not directly and steam also freezes a certain part for refunds.

KISSmyOS,

The few people at the top of the studio paid themselves a juicy salary from investors’ money for 5 years, then released a Unity asset pack they bought for a few hundred bucks as finished end product.

avater,
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it’s build in Unreal Engine…

Zahille7,

Unreal, Unity; is there much distinction between the two nowadays?

computergeek125,

Several paragraphs of licensing drama

Carighan,
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True, although I would guess the central argument still holds water. Most of the “game” looks like an asset flip indeed.

slaacaa, (edited )

The amount of people who don’t understand how this is a scam is sad. It’s not about the pocket change from steam sales (which they may get or may not at all), it’s about living for a few years on investor money and doing nothing (or working your own business). And they did release a game at the end, so the investors cannot easily sue them for fraud, as they can just put their hands up and say they tried, it just didn’t work out.

dinckelman, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.

Everyone knew it would be a pump and dump

GrammatonCleric, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.
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Maybe they should’ve crowdfunded and did preorders

Lanusensei87, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.
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What a disaster.

Aielman15, (edited ) do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.
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Sad to see another dev forced to close.

I admit I had never heard of them nor their games.

EDIT: Apparently the game sucked and nobody bought it? Looking at some random gameplay video, it really looks like a mess.

dinckelman,

Really not upset about it at all. They’ve lied to people, mislead everyone, gave false or incomplete descriptions of the product, and then released a horribly buggy asset dump, that doesn’t look anything like the pre-rendered clip they’ve shown forever ago

Aielman15,
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Oh, I see. As I said, I had never heard of them or their games before today, so I was missing the context.

mateomaui, (edited )

If you haven’t already, watch the video review in my first reply. One of the funniest parts is when he gets killed out of nowhere and his reaction is “There’s someone else here! I’m not alone in this world!”

mateomaui, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.

The game blows but this review has a lot of replay value if you haven’t seen it already

m.youtube.com/watch?v=qMh7lv8wmHs

Goronmon,

What’s crazy to me is that the game looks as good as it does on a surface level. It doesn’t immediately stand out as a “This is a garbage game that is going to lead to a studio closure”, at least until you see the person actually play the game.

cradac,

I think we’re going to see a lot more of those types of games in the future. It’s pretty easy to make a decent looking game with UE 5 - still doesn’t give it any soul though.

Neato,
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Yeah, look at Starfield. It has really nice looking textures and objects. Everything else is a disappointment or mediocre. Maybe excepting the Ship Builder feature.

maxenmajs,
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It’s also worth noting that they used UE5 store assets rather than making their own art. It may look decent in a single screenshot but games made like this often have an incohesive art direction and can’t match the quality with their own work.

Goronmon,

I thought you were exaggerating but after reviewing the thread at reddit.com/…/i_present_to_you_the_asset_flip_file…

Yeah, this is going to keep happening.

Lmaydev,

The city looks amazing! I’m guessing they spent all their time on the graphics and forgot the actual game.

Davel23,

The game is completely made with bought assets.

Lanusensei87,
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The city is an asset pack lmao.

Lunar, do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.

That sucks, but the studio was very misleading about The Day Before.

JoshuaSlowpoke777, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion

Talos Principle. The VR version of the first game, haven’t gotten around to the second game yet. I love the puzzles (when I don’t struggle with timing running past mines), and it’s hilarious that the philosophical test to make a Milton admin profile showed me how utterly unprepared I am for philosophical debate, and how weirdly contradictory my viewpoints might be. Mind you, the only philosophy class I’ve taken in my life was an ethics class.

TL;DR Talos Principle is amazing so far, even though it makes me want to slink off back to college and sheepishly register for a philosophy class.

huggingstars, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion
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Been playing the original ni no kuni as part of my Ghibli playlist.

The game shows its age right from the get go, though it’s still adorable and fairly charming. 5 hrs in and my only complaint is that jumping is somehow an unlockable, but yeah guess it’s just me.

Steam input support is a pleasant surprise. And I ran into a steam bug because of that(¯_(ツ)_/¯).

KMRamos,

Not the mobile, right? I think it’s better than the mobile at least

huggingstars,
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It’s Wrath of the White Witch Remastered on steam.

And yeah that mobile one looks like cash grab to me. Never played it tho.

setsneedtofeed, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion
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Lunar, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion

Fallout 3

Having a blast exploring the wasteland.

RinseDrizzle, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion

Baldur’s Gate consumed a bunch of my time, but I’ve had on hold for a bit. Got obsessed with Armored Core 6 which has been a ton of fun. Bit biased though, played AC series growing up, big Fromsoft fan in general.

Most recently been hitting that Mario World Wonder on switch for quick casual time kill, then Predecessor on PC for scratching competitive PVP itch. Got so tense playing it the other day I managed to tweak a muscle somehow 😂

BorgDrone, do games w The Weekly 'What are you playing?' Discussion

I’m playing Lies of P and it’s amazing. It’s been a long time since a game was able to draw me in like this.

Grass, do games w God of War Ragnarok: Valhalla FREE DLC

I still just want the base game for PC. I need my Mimir fix after the previous game. Or Bloodborne.

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