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AeonFelis, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Some of you have never Wanna be the Guy and it shows.

8000gnat,

I remember wanting to play IWBtG so badly in its heyday but not being able to figure out how to on a mac. I finally watched a playthrough recently and… turns out I dodged a bullet of frustration.

AeonFelis,

Did you really dodge a bullet though? Or did the bullet stop midair and changed direction to move toward what was up until now the most logical location to dodge to?

AFC1886VCC, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Did anyone ever play Pursuit Force on the PSP?

That game was brutally difficult.

Katana314, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

I’ve started to hate the term “Hardest”.

Give me two months in Unity, and I can make a game that’s “harder” than every game on any one of these lists. It would also be unplayable trash, that would prompt hundreds of “How the fuck are you supposed to XXX” responses due to obscurity. Part of what makes those listed games enjoyable is having a decent difficulty curve, compelling progression of skill demonstration, and a good feeling of reward. They’re getting difficulty right.

Bakkoda,

Impossiblest? Difficulter? Most hard?

captain_aggravated, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Some of those old games from the NES or even into the SNES era were just outright impossible. IIRC there was a Dennis The Menace game didn’t have the final boss ready for the publishing deadline so they just put an impossible jump just before it so players couldn’t get that far.

ramble81, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Ghosts n Goblins say what?

SassyRamen,
@SassyRamen@lemmy.world avatar

Right? The studio behind it openly admitted that Ghost and Goblins was made to be a quarter eater at arkades… it was built to be unbeatable

ramble81,

“Finally beat it!… wait, what do you mean I have to do it all over again on a harder difficulty with the weakest weapon?!”

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

This room is an illusion and

is a trap devisut by Satan.

Go ahead dauntlessly !

Make rapid progres !

MystikIncarnate, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison
SSJMarx,

Aww yeah. I’m gonna call Gold and Silver Pawn and see if they have this classic in stock.

Vorticity,

I need to find an emulated version of this. Mine was faulty and always glitches as soon as you finished this stage so I never got to see neyond it for more than a few seconds. I’ve always wondered what was there!

Ragnarok314159,

I have never met anyone that could beat this level. It’s like it was made to sell the Game Genie.

Bertuccio,

You have to memorize the level and jump a bit before that one tricky one comes on screen.

ShankShill,

Child me could beat it after hours of repeated attempts and running out of continues.

Adult me went back after a decade. The muscle memory was still there and I beat it on the first try. I probably got about an 80% success rate on first attempts now. But level 4 and beyond I’m terrible.

Couldbealeotard,
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

I only got it by state save scumming in zsnes, and even then it was tough not to save yourself into a corner.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

My brother and I played the game so much we were able to beat that stage co-op. It gets much worse later. I learned not that long ago that the reason we were never able to beat it co-op is there’s a bug that prevents the 11th stage from being beatable with two players.

apex32,

I watch a streamer who mastered speed running dozens of NES games. He says Battletoads was the hardest game to learn. Just getting through the game, not even pushing for a fast time, was extremely challenging. Much harder than TMNT 1 or Ninja Gaiden.

Jeffool,
@Jeffool@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, for all the difficulty I had with the dam on NES TMNT as a kid, I saw a streamer do it last year I think (I believe on first attempt?) not realizing it was supposed to be difficult. Blew my mind.

Ultraviolet, (edited )

Fun fact: that’s one of the easiest levels in the game. It barely cracks the top 10 hardest levels in a game with 12 levels, and only because the first 2 are trivial to lull you into a false sense of security.

samus12345, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I hate hard games nowadays, but when I was a kid I had a high tolerance for them because that’s pretty much all there was. I have a fondness for the Ghosts 'n Goblins series because it was part of my childhood, but I wouldn’t give it the time of day if they came out now.

Juice, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Elden Ring isn’t even the most difficult soulsborne game, by a longshot

Etterra, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

That goddamn seaweed.

iamjackflack,

It really wasn’t that bad

Delta_V,
grrgyle,

I remember Retro City Rampage had an homage to this sequence near the end of the game. No lie: I broke out into a cold sweat when the screen first came up, thinking I’d have to grind and grind and grind to get through it.

Luckily the homage is much, much easier than the original.

lemonSqueezy,

I was scrolling to find this post. I used to be able to beat that level on command a gazillion years ago. I retried it recently on the turtles anthology game on the ps5 and it was brutal even with the rewind feature.

NataliaTheDrowned2, do games w 'let me show you the nether before bed'
@NataliaTheDrowned2@fedia.io avatar

Aah, Bugrock Edition

comrade19,

Using it for the ray tracing but its too dark to play with it on haha

KoalaUnknown,

I recommend taking a look at Iris. You can use it in combination with Sodium, Distant Horizons, and Complementary Shaders for to make Java edition really beautiful.

TriflingToad,

also bedrock ray tracing isn’t even made for actual play, it’s only made for a few specially designed maps. people found how to move a folder from the map worlds file into a location in a normal world folder to make the world have RTX.

(most of) the shaders on Iris are MADE to play with so you won’t encounter as many issues.

sag, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Cuphead is easy. Ever tried Hotline Miami?

Thorry84, do gaming w It's a classic

It isn’t just a reskin, there are a lot of differences. One of the biggest is there is no run in Doki Doki. That makes the experience extremely different from the running and jumping action of Mario.

teft, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

IMHO Elden Ring isn’t the most difficult fromsoft game.

That honor goes to Sekiro.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I 100% agree. Sekiro is my favorite of them all.

iAmTheTot,

Elden Ring may in fact be the easiest From game tbh.

magic_lobster_party,

Coming from ER to DS3 I think DS3 is much easier. I didn’t put much thought into my build and it was a breeze. I beat many bosses first try.

Much of the difficulty in ER comes from the often hard to telegraph attacks.

RightHandOfIkaros,

You might be inclined to say that if you don’t really know much of the games From has made.

The Adventures of Cookie and Cream on PS2 was a very easy game by comparison.

iAmTheTot,

Lol, okay fair, but I think it’s pretty common to be referring to the “soulslike” genre when you say a From game.

PraiseTheSoup,

Considering they released at least 5 Armored Core games before even their very first souls-like, Demon’s Souls, which was not widely played, I am inclined to disagree.

micka190,

Honestly, if you go back and play the older souls games after Elden Ring, you’ll see that they’re a lot easier than Elden Ring, unless you summon Mimic Tear for every boss fight, I guess. But on a “player vs boss” scale, the fights in the older games are much easier than some of the later ones in Elden Ring (especially if you factor in the DLC).

iAmTheTot,

I have hundreds of hours in all the Souls games. I still say Elden Ring is easiest overall.

RightHandOfIkaros,

The thing that makes Elden Ring much easier is the fact that there is always somewhere else the player can make progress. In Dark Souls, you follow a more or less linear path and if you felt underleveled you had to grind enemies because you could not make any further progress until you pass where you got stuck. In Elden Ring, you can go to a different area completely and make a bit more progress there. From Limgrave, the player can choose to go to Stormveil, skip Stormveil and go to Liurnia Lake, go to Southern Limgrave, or go to Caelid if they’re a psycopath. This is in addition to all the helpers From has given players. Strong magic (compared to Souls games), Summons that are available to the player literally anywhere on top of the same Gold Message Summons from the Souls games, two moves that give players i-frames, etc.

Sure, if you play it like its a Souls game then it might seem hard, but if you play it as the action adventure RPG it is designed to be, the game is significantly easier than Souls games.

micka190,

I get what you’re saying, but I feel like you’re way underselling how hard the Elden Ring bosses are compared to the Dark Souls bosses (the actual bosses, not the re-used late-game enemies with bigger health pool in random dungeons). I don’t think there’s a single Dark Souls boss that comes anywhere close to any of the bosses from Morgoth and onward (Fire Giant excluded, obviously). Morgoth, Godfrey, Radagon, Malenia, and all the DLC bosses are much harder than anything the Souls series has seen (unless you count broken/janky mechanics like Witch of Izalith’s garbage-tier hitboxes).

RightHandOfIkaros,

I suppose, but the player could very easily overlevel themselves to make the bosses very easy in Elden Ring. Can’t do that without a big, boring, repetitive time investment in Dark Souls, farming the same enemies in the same location.

Soggy,

Might be worth clarifying Demon’s Souls and onward, some of us are old enough to have played Armored Core.

Mirshe,

Armored Core series, but those have always had a way to cheese through the campaign, almost universally.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

That honor goes to Demon’s Souls…

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure why you were downvoted. I found Demon Souls was frustrating more than difficult but to each their own.

heavy,

Just came in here to support Sekiro

Nuke_the_whales,

Elden Ring isn’t difficult, it’s tedious and repetitive. I really didn’t like it

tfw_no_toiletpaper,

Nah Sekiro is great. Sometimes I just pull it up and play it a couple of days because it’s so satisfying. I think Sword Saint Isshin is supposed to be the hardest boss, and it definitely takes a lot of runs until you have him memorized. But on NG+ I first-, or second-tried him. I think all Sekiro bosses are pretty chill once you know them.

Consort Radahn however… I don’t know if I have the will to ever struggle through this fight again

JayDee,

I think you mean the hardest Fromsoft game you liked. Go Beat the original armored core and get back to me. you could also give last raven a shot.

Dkarma, do gaming w The winner of every difficulty comparison

Battletoads would like a word

Mango, do gaming w It's a classic

If I had a nickel for every time I heard about this, I’d have 10¢ just this week. It’s not a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

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