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Red_October, do games w Star Wars Outlaws Requires The Internet To Install It

Even on consoles is this even news anymore? It may not be every game that requires it but there’s no way this is now so unusual as to be worth pointing out in an article of it’s own. The time to get pissy about that was, what, 10 years ago?

Shadywack, do games w Star Wars Outlaws Requires The Internet To Install It
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

Ummm, so do most other games???

inclementimmigrant,

They’re talking about DRM on the installer there so no, most other games don’t have that “feature”.

Addv4, do games w Star Wars Outlaws Requires The Internet To Install It

It’s only required for installation, can play offline. I know it’s not great for long term preservation, but tbh this isn’t the worst drm I’ve seen.

Squizzy,

I got shafted moving house and playing Hitman, my progress saved but I without a connection my scores didnt save. So I got to level 2 but I got no credit for level 1.

Absolutely screw all kinds of drm, I will pirste Squares 007 game if they put thebalways online shit in it.

Summzashi, do games w Star Wars Outlaws Requires The Internet To Install It

Who cares? As long as you’re able to play offline I don’t see why this matters at all. Out of all the shitty DRM’s these days this seems like it’s at least mildly effective without being too much of a hassle or a violation of privacy and security. Kotaku just whines about anything.

rubikcuber, do games w Star Wars Outlaws Requires The Internet To Install It
@rubikcuber@feddit.uk avatar

The whole Internet?

Graphy,

Mom said it’s my turn to install Star Wars!

slazer2au, do games w Star Wars Outlaws Requires The Internet To Install It

I reached out to Ubisoft and was told that an internet connection is required to install the game no matter which version you are playing. However, Ubisoft did confirm that you’ll be able to play Outlaws offline once you’ve installed it.

Am I missing something here. How big is the game because online install has been a thing some 2008 because games are larger than DVD and Blu-ray disk’s.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s DRM to authenticate your install. Also not a new thing, but still not great.

Cheems,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

It’s definitely not going to stop someone from getting around that and pirating it.

CrazyLikeGollum,

A Blu-ray can hold up to 128GB. Most games aren’t bigger than that, though some are. And including multiple discs to fit the entire game used to be standard practice, and could still easily be done.

This is for DRM, online install for a physical game has always been solely for DRM.

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

I truly don’t know because I’m not the demographic, but do most people have a Blu-ray drive in their PC? I got one years ago but haven’t put a disc drive in a build since.

Edit: me forgetting about consoles. I’ve been all digital on all platforms for too long. Also, has anyone printed on discs that large?

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Physical PC games don’t exist anymore.

CrazyLikeGollum,

Bit late to respond, but as someone else pointed out, physical PC games are virtually nonexistent. Even the collector’s edition of Baldur’s Gate 3 I recently bought came as a steam key and a disk with the steam client installer and a few files for the game to make Steam think the game is installed and force an update. I was pretty disappointed by that.

And no, most people don’t have a blu-ray drive or any kind of optical media reader in their PCs these days.

As for whether or not disks that large are printed on by publishers, most physical PS5 games are printed in disks of that capacity as are 4K blu-ray releases of movies.

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for the response! I found this:

The PlayStation 5 does not support CDs and will not play 3D Blu-ray content. The choice of Ultra-HD Blu-ray as the disc medium means PlayStation 5 game discs can hold up to 100 GB of data, in contrast to PlayStation 4 games which usually came on dual-layer standard Blu-ray discs capable of holding up to 50 GB.>

MrScottyTay,

I think FFVII Rebirth came with two disks recently. It’s shitty that some companies just nicked and dime and just say “fuck you in 20 years time”

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

You’re new to Ubisoft, right? Ubisoft needs online on installation cm because their shit is so buggy that not even the installer could make it all the way without a crash if not for day 1 patches. No need for DRM if the game doesn’t work!

CrazyLikeGollum,

I wouldn’t say I’m new to Ubisoft, more that they haven’t released a game I’ve been interested in playing since Assassin’s Creed: Revelations.

As for day one patches being a necessity for games, I would argue that if a game has major game breaking bugs on final release (AKA launch day) then the game isn’t worth playing, much less spending money on.

If a game can’t even install on a system that meets its minimum requirements without needing a patch, then I’d say that’s a feature not a bug. Since it tells me that I should strongly reconsider purchasing anything from that publisher in the future.

vox, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

note: this is just a patent
patents usually don’t mean shit, sony (?iirc) has a patent for an ad system that requires users to say the name of the brand to continue, but we’re not seeing it around yet eh?

roon, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game
@roon@lemmy.ml avatar

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kandoh, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game
@kandoh@reddthat.com avatar

If they do,that’s it

powerofm, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game

Time to start jailbreaking TVs.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Already a thing for Roku/Android TVs.

alphapuggle, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game
@alphapuggle@programming.dev avatar

HTPC or Google TV. With Google TV you can at least ADB the shit away

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Should be able to with Roku since they are also Android based. I’ve found a bunch of things to side load or modify any TV running on Android or based on Android… Which only sucks because I was looking for that kind of stuff for my shit-ass Samsung TV which isn’t Android based 😩

alphapuggle,
@alphapuggle@programming.dev avatar

Roku is not android based, and doesn’t have an accessible ADB interface or similar

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Aren’t .APKs only usable with Android systems? I’ve sideloaded .apks to my old Roku stick for things that weren’t on the official app manager.

alphapuggle,
@alphapuggle@programming.dev avatar

As far as I’m aware they can only be used on Android. I did a search for APK on Roku and I all found were some articles erroneously calling custom channels APKs. Roku does let you side load custom channels in developer mode, but you can remove software like you can on an android box, so you’re always stuck with Roku’s ad riddled home page and whatever injects ads into HDMI

ramble81, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game

The biggest thing I hate about any HDMI overlay is they inevitably screw with the picture quality of the underlying image.

lud,

Could it not be turned off when it’s not needed (I.E. The game is unpaused.)

And what specifically do you mean by overlay?

Monitors and TVs have been able to overlay some interface elements over the HDMI input since forever. I have never heard of an overlay degrading quality but maybe there are some poor implementations.

darkphotonstudio, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game

Roku’s New HDMI Tech C̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ Will Show Ads When You Pause Your Game

FTFY

HopingForBetter,

I’m just expecting ads with any “start” button press.

Press start ADS!

Change equipment by pressing start to access the menu. ADS!

Press start to conti ADS!!!

esaru, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game

Time to find interests that don’t depend on a company taking advantage of my consumption habits.

JoMomma, do gaming w Roku’s New HDMI Tech Could Show Ads When You Pause Your Game

Don’t connect your TV to the internet, just don’t.

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Cars have cell radios now and transfer data about you using those.

I would imagine that as long as it can generate enough of a return for it to make financial sense, manufacturers of other devices might start doing so at some point.

JoMomma,

Did you reply to the correct comment? I’m not sure what that has to do with mine?

Edit: oh, you mean we might not have a choice about it connecting soon? I hadn’t thought about that because that is not a current reality. But, that is a terrifyingly possible future

Dabjulmaros,
@Dabjulmaros@reddthat.com avatar

Imagine if your tv only worked if it can phone home so you couldnt just rip the chip off or mangle the antena.

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