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vulgarcynic, do gaming w What’s Even The Point Of Xbox Game Pass Now?
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I renewed by doing the $1 dollar deal again a year or two ago… racked up another 3 years at the time.

As a Game pass user from Day 1 I evangelized it to everyone I knew. Especially going in to this console generation.

Now though, I see no purpose to it. Microsoft has dropped the bag in a unbelievable way when it comes to dripping6 exclusives / first party games.

It’s not so much the Netflix of games as it is the Tubi…

toxicbubble,

don’t be dissin tubi 😂

vulgarcynic,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

You know, that’s fair. They haven’t shit on us… yet. 😁

BowtiesAreCool,

I don’t know, I think there’s still a big collection of games that make it worth it. I don’t think the “core” cheaper option with a set 25 games is really worth it though.

vulgarcynic,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I get that for some users. In my case, 90% of what’s in the catalog that I’d be interested in I already own. I know this isn’t the standards, but it’s what happens when you’re an avid Steam Gamer with a Humble Sub and a collecting problem.

I joined Game pass to have Xbox live to play with my console buddies and for day one exclusive access. At this point, I’ve moved most of them on to PC and Xbox has done nada with my 5 or so years of subscription.

AnUnusualRelic, do gaming w What’s Even The Point Of Xbox Game Pass Now?
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like a tip to XBox. Yo do tip your console, right?

Nikls94, (edited ) do gaming w What’s Even The Point Of Xbox Game Pass Now?

I’ve always been a fan of used physical copies. Don’t wanna play GameX on day one because the last time CompanyB released a game it was good but only after updating a couple of GB? Wait a year and get that game used for cheaper than a meal.

Unless it’s Nintendo.

Katana314, do gaming w Helldivers 2 Community Manager Seemingly Gone After PlayStation Login Meltdown

Even if I side with the community on the turnout, I feel like a community manager’s job is to represent the company’s interests to some degree. Kind of like a defense lawyer.

They shouldn’t go as far as lying to people or making bad promises, which can make it a tough job, but they definitely shouldn’t be siding with the players against the company, or the internal employees are catching flak from both sides.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I feel like a community manager’s job is to represent the company’s interests to some degree.

I mean, I think he was. All he did was show the community how to communicate their feelings to Sony. He tried to save them from themselves.

Pistcow, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

The updates will continue until morale improves.

Rikj000, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game
@Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

My “nExT gEn” update experience:

  1. Get baited to re-play Fallout 4 through the new TV show + Next Gen update
  2. Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk + Official HD texture DLC sucks
  3. Be disappointed since the update broke nearly all mod support
  4. Roll back to the release before the Next Gen update + Uninstall the Official HD texture DLC
  5. Install 205 mods, and happily play with nearly everything in 4K

FYI, most mods I installed are from:

saltesc,

Yeah, but you’ll get a few hours in and uninstall because you stop playing.

Rikj000,
@Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Currently at 30ish hours and still enjoying it.

Reminded me that Bethesda does release some great / huge games.

Albeit quite bugged at release,
but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community.

The Next Gen update is a stupid cash-grab though, and imo should have never happened…

An official modpack would have been much better.

psmgx,

Albeit quite bugged at release, but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community

Except that all of their patches broke all the mods.

FO4 also was a mediocre fallout game but a decent FPS and base builder

warm,

The world is great to explore. Lots of hidden goofs to uncover, but yeah, you play New Vegas for story.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

I also play FO1 and 2 for the story.

5714,
  1. Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk

That’s kinda spoiled, lol

kebabslob,

Brother the company is owned by Microsoft now. You can complain about their product in any way you want. Its sold under Microsoft, you can complain. Again, Microsoft

5714,

I’m not your brother.

so much about blahaj.zone…

Zombifrog,

I’m not your buddy, guy

5714,

Y u do dis?

Sturgist,
@Sturgist@lemmy.ca avatar

Because lol

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s an old South Park meme www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3K2rkkU7g

NewNewAccount,

People have complained about FO4’s graphics since release. I always thought it was a good looking game. Coming back after the next-gen update I still think it looks good.

3ntranced,

It always looked like nearly next generation. Better than New Vegas, but when stacked up against the other releases that year like Witcher 3 and Bloodborne it just felt a but underwhelming.

A_Very_Big_Fan,

IMO the graphics look great, it’s just that it’s so clearly built on the creation engine. Like, the models and textures and lighting are great, but the animation is just so…creation engine

arefx,

I was very let down with them on release. The animations are worse though.

Ashen,

How did you roll back to before the game was updated?

GBU_28,

No offense but this is totally 🤡 meme. You just walked deeper and deeper into bullshit and convinced yourself to keep stepping the whole way

ME5SENGER_24, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

You have one story, thats it. They can update that game til PS7 is a thing and you will have 1 story. I love the game but the replay value is minimal, at best

TachyonTele, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

Leave Bethsoft alone guys. They’re all out of fun game ideas and need something to do.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

They’re all out of fun game ideas and need something to do.

They could try fixing something for a change

SexMachineStalin, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game
@SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net avatar

I see the FPS still maxed at 80 through DP connection and the Fallout 4 Script Extender no longer works. The XDI and Be Exceptional mods have 9/11’d

warm, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

Still haven't updated to the new update. You just have to swap an app manifest file, takes 5 seconds.

I'm not sure why people with modded setups updated, I guess they had yet to learn that lesson.

stardust,

So current fallout 4 install is fine and safe?

warm,

The one before the 'next gen' update.

stardust,

Looks like I’ll have to downgrade then.

golden_zealot, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

They actually made the load time worse with their update. Not by a little, by a fucking tonne. Going from any interior to outside now takes like a full minute and 30 seconds, its ridiculous.

ech,

That’s the classic Bethesda experience.

passepartout,

It took that time before the update for me as well. 1-2 minutes for every loading screen. There was a mod for that (before the next-gen update) that you could not load via nexus, bc the setup was a little more conplex, but it worked really well (see www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283 )

The method of this mod was to speed up the fps only while in the loading screen to 300-350 bc the loading times were somehow tied to the fps. Well done Bethesda.

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

It seemed a lot faster for me prior to this latest update, but they were never superb. Here’s hoping either the mods can be fixed or bethesda can get their shit together.

800XL,

Console “tweaks”

mihnt,

Alt-tab until you hear the music stop and it will load quicker.

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

That is the hackiest workaround I’ve ever heard lol but I will give it a shot, thanks.

mihnt,

Downside is you have to keep the seriously lacking, buggy-ass radio on.

Wogi,

I’ve literally always done this with fallout 4. I think Skyrim too. Not because I thought it was improving anything mind you, it was taking so long that I would tab out to scroll some website while I waited.

Restaldt,

Xcom2 had a nice “feature” where if you hit capslock right when the mission starts to load it paused all animations and actually loaded the damn mission far quicker than normal

biribiri11,

Hah, those are the load times I used to get on my Xbox One with its dinky HDD. At the very least, The Midnight Ride has been updated to post next-gen, and I now get really small loading times (<5 sec) on my SSD. The game feels less rough around the edges, too. Only took 3 hours to set up :,)

Moonworm,

I dunno, I’m looking for more like 8+ hours of modding troubleshooting to really get into it.

efstajas, (edited )

Super strange because on PS5 the load times are extremely fast since the patch. indoor / outdoor transitions are never longer than 4 or 5 seconds, and quick travel maybe 6 or so

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

That is strange for sure.

pete_the_cat, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

So, they’re giving it the Skyrim treatment. I think it’s received about 10 version updates since AE launched like 2 years ago. I ended up downloading a modlist that was 1.5.97 (the original version of Skyrim SE) and ended up sticking with it since it’s future proofed.

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

1.6 mods are also stable now, but of course Bethesda shits out the patches every now and then so you need to downgrade anyway, just to 1.6.

pete_the_cat,

They definitely are, I have been using 1.6 for a while, it’s just a pain in the ass to keep updating SKSE mods or those mods that support 1.6 but only older versions because the authors don’t make mods anymore.

TheDoctor, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game
@TheDoctor@hexbear.net avatar

The most thriving mod communities are ones for games that have essentially been abandoned by their publisher. Bethesda is infamous for trying to integrate with its modding scene and personally I don’t care for it.

100, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

let me guess, they still did not learn to add a beta branch for the old version after all the shit with skyrim mods and anniversary edition

Agrivar,

I am so glad that Irongate is being much smarter with Valheim. You can opt into the beta and also choose older versions of the game to downgrade to, all within Steam. Very helpful for an early-access game with tons of mods and sporadic updates.

FlihpFlorp,

I actually downgraded from Skyrim SE to oldrim in November. I started playing modded after a hiatus after the first big update whatever that was

Everything a little harder to deal with but at least I don’t have to worry about it updating

Rip in peace my mod list: from whenever I started to December

laughterlaughter, (edited )

I don’t understand why people put up with this with a freaking game. I will never pay money to companies that do this stuff. There are literally tens of thousands of games available right now that are perfectly enjoyable.

FlihpFlorp,

I get that. For me modding is part of that experience and maybe it’s Stockholm syndrome but Skyrim itself is kinda fun with mods just with how many there are

wiccan2, do gaming w Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game

This is starting to feel like their way of blocking Fallout London from releasing indefinitely.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

bethesda has historically hated mods and the people who make them. its why their games have such a small modding scene

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Well the updates to Skyrim, Fallout and lack of modding tools for Starfield seems to indicate that it is now a reality. I seriously cannot fathom why they would sabotage themselves like that. It’s absolutely obvious since at least Oblivion that mods are lifeline and reason for success of Bethesda rpg games yet here we are.

Phoenix3875,

My gut feeling is that the procedural generation thing in Startfield somehow absorbs some people’s need for mods.

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, clearing out the exact same building 40 times is much more entertaining than having a different building layout. /s

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

No, not really. After Starfield released mod scene EXPLODED capital letters, there were hundred new mods every day. However, without proper tools 95% of those mods are very simple reskins and modders got burned out and bored on this fast. Now we are 8 months after release with still no tools and that enthusiasm is largely gone. Part of it will still be back, but the best moment to establish a vibrant mod community has passed.

JackbyDev,

Minecraft has procedural stuff but still has lots of mods.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

the games sold just fine on console, before modding was possible on it. never got this modding saves bethesda narrative. its just a neat addition

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I think for profit companies want to sell more than fine.

ilinamorato,

But the point of Bethesda isn’t to sell their games. It’s to sell GamePass. Nobody has to play Fallout, they just have to want to play Fallout enough to buy GamePass.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

their games did that too

Glytch,

They’ve certainly gotten more hostile to mods since the M$ acquisition. At least mods that don’t want to play ball with the creation club nonsense.

JackbyDev, (edited )

I seriously doubt that. Bethesda’s titles are generally some of the most moddable mainstream titles. I missed sarcasm.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

that was my point yes. in fact bethesda loves mods so much they will straight up hire modders as devs. i think the sim settlement guy got hired

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I believe you may have missed some sarcasm in that comment.

JackbyDev,

Whoops. Chalking this up to Poe’s law

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