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missingno, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Nintendo Switch 2 Will Have a 3-Phase Launch Plan For Its Games
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Are they saying third-parties don't even have devkits yet? That's a bizarre way to do a launch plan.

Gerudo,

Maybe they are doing it due to how similar gen1 and 2 are to develop on. Gen2 just gets faster processing power. Maybe Nintendo told the devs target 30 fps on gen1 and we will almost guarantee 60 on gen 2. Or something to that effect.

woelkchen,
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Are they saying third-parties don’t even have devkits yet? That’s a bizarre way to do a launch plan.

The console will be out of stock for at least 6 months anyway.

SomethingBurger,

This claim is dubious. Several publishers have already announced Switch 2 games.

ampersandrew, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Ubisoft is Developing a Turn-Based Tactics Game Set in The Rainbow 6 Universe
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t bemoan this just yet. Ubisoft’s name on the game is a red flag as always, but they made a pretty sick turn-based tactics game in the Ghost Recon universe on the 3DS, from designer Julian Gollup, formerly of original XCOM fame, now working on a game called Chip 'n Clawz vs. the Brainioids.

Besides, I don’t want a single player Rainbow Six. I want a Rainbow Six that’s either single player or co-op, with a proper planning phase. I’m about halfway there with the Door Kickers games.

ObtuseDoorFrame, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Ubisoft is Developing a Turn-Based Tactics Game Set in The Rainbow 6 Universe

I knew that the success of BG3 would have an impact on the industry, it was only a matter of time. This sounds fun.

brsrklf,

BG3? Not sure I am seeing the influence here.

If anything Firaxis’s take on XCOM has made turn based tactics somewhat mainstream again, and Ubisoft has already tried to surf on this trend once with Mario+Rabbids.

ObtuseDoorFrame,

I don’t think there’s been a turn based game that has sold as well as BG3 in a long time. They’re just chasing trends. Something like XCOM is a better comparison in terms of gameplay and style, but doesn’t have the sales that BG3 has.

zaphodb2002, do games w EXCLUSIVE - Ubisoft is Developing a Turn-Based Tactics Game Set in The Rainbow 6 Universe

Isn’t the “Rainbow Six Universe” just, like, the regular world? I haven’t played an R6 game in more than a decade, but I remember the draw being realism.

leftytighty,

Fact: most fictional media takes place on earth. They clearly mean the lore will be shared.

base, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Uh, okay. Whatever?

Rhynoplaz, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

I’m not a big Nintendo fan, because of their pricing and lawsuits, but I’m siding with them on this one.

If you can’t afford a Switch 2, don’t buy one.

This is coming from someone who really couldn’t afford one right now. We wait until we can or the price goes down (oh wait. Nintendo doesn’t do that )

inclementimmigrant,

I think it very tone deaf with regards to how their trying to up the prices of games, which I think is BS, and increasing the price of accessories, and locking things behind subscriptions.

Very much so a Blizzard, “don’t you have phones?” Type of situation.

Hyphlosion,

Or, and hear me out…

If you’re working on your credit score… Go for it!

I was able to get an Xbox Series X and made on-time monthly payments for it over 2 years. It opened a new line of credit and regular automatic payments toward it did wonders for my credit score.

Rhynoplaz,

Right, but I would consider that being able to afford one.

arudesalad, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

What’s annoying about this is that (at least for me) the switch 2’s price is not the problem (outside of the USA, good luck to American Nintendo fans, you’ll need it), I get that it is expensive for a Nintendo console (I probably couldn’t afford one) but it has hardware worth the price (from what I have seen, feel free to correct me). The problem are the overpriced games, £75 (physical)/£67 (digital) is too much even for a Nintendo game. Do Nintendo really think they can just get away with prices that inflated in a market where most families will go “but we already have Mario Kart! Why spend another £430!!”

Nikls94,

Not to sound like a fanboy, I mean I am but that’s not why, but I get the Mario Kart price tag.

I’ve had a switch from day 1 and look in the e-shop charts about once a week, and Mario Kart was consistently in the top 20 most sold games of the past 2 weeks.

From a switch perspective, you paid $70 for MarioKart + $25 for the DLC and got a single game a lot of people played since April 2017. In that same time you got 8 Call of Duty games for $70 each ($560) - with the later CoDs charging you $30 for chores or “Battle Passes”. Or you could have paid 95 Fortnite Battle Passes (total ~$950) since the launch of MarioKart.

I forgot the point I wanted to make.

FartMaster69,

Yeah, but somehow I doubt they’ll pass on an opportunity to double dip and release DLC.

Macaroni_ninja,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

if only MK, Fortnite and CoD would be the only three options for gamers then probably MK would win this round.

Unfortunately you comparing your favourite game to two vomit piles full of microtransaction and battle passes so cant see your point there.

If you enjoy the games Nintendo sells go for it, in my opinion the inflated new prices are ridiculous and will have a negative impact on the gaming industry in global as other big corpos will start copying them if Nintendo can get away with it.

chunkystyles,

MK 8 is also a previous generation title that Nintendo got to double dip on already.

MK night be a good value proposition for some folks. It’s still too expensive. I have games that I’ve paid $20, $10, sometimes even less for that I’ve gotten more play time out of. Play time to cost is not a good argument.

Let me also contrast with some of Nintendo’s worst practices, like selling 3 old Mario games with no enhancements, that are just emulated, for $60.

piyuv,

Also the greed. Charging for the virtual tour game (however cheap it may be), charging for performance updates to existing games (not extra content, only performance). Switch 1 games should just run better on the new console by default.

I’m not even sure hw is fairly priced. They’re able to sell the same thing in Japan for 100$ cheaper. I don’t think they’re losing money there.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

Just don’t buy Nintendo.

SolidShake, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

I heard “buy a steam deck instead”

umbrella, (edited )
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  • SolidShake,

    I would imagine the lack of power on a steam deck that, that would suck

    Hyphlosion,

    Still don’t know if I can easily play a Steam Deck in docked mode on my TV 100% of the time like I can with my Switch.

    tonytins, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming
    @tonytins@pawb.social avatar

    This feels like a “you’re holding it wrong” moment.

    deranger,

    Big Xbox One release vibes.

    “Fortunately we have a product for people who aren’t able to stay connected; it’s called Xbox 360” - Don Mattrick, Microsoft’s President of Interactive Entertainment Business

    shinratdr,
    @shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

    Except that was about internet connectivity and this is about price. Telling people to go with the old console because they can’t due to a bullshit restriction is crazy, saying it about price is pretty fair. If you can’t afford a current gen console, then the last gen would be the best option. At $450USD it will still be the cheapest console on the market other than the Switch 1.

    I’m honestly shocked people are so up in arms about the price. Doesn’t really seem like Nintendo is gouging here, a comparable phone or tablet with the same specs comes in around the same price or higher. It has pretty much every feature people were asking for at about a $100USD premium over the existing Switch.

    Raising standard game prices, charging for the tutorial app, and charging for next gen upgrades, that I get the pushback on.

    Ephera,

    Well, traditionally, console prices were subsidized by the more expensive game prices. They’d sell the console at a loss to then make that back per game. Them raising both the console price as well as game prices is what makes it awful.

    shinratdr,
    @shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

    We lost that in the PS4 era, seems weird to mourn it now.

    Ephera,

    I mean, if it’s still shit and it’s getting even worse, I don’t know why we wouldn’t continue to mourn that, or at least call it out.

    cmhe,

    I would agree about getting buying the cheaper version, if it doesn’t also might mean buying an EOL product.

    If Nintendo stops providing updates and new games of the old switch (soonish) then (what I suspect from console gaming) then suggesting to buy the old product from Nindendo looks like they just want to empty their Switch 1 stockpile.

    If Nintendo just treats the Switch 1 and 2 as the same console, with just different performance and price, but get the same support period and games, then I am fully with you.

    deranger,

    They’re both about price in my opinion.

    Personally I don’t feel the console itself is that bad, but $80 Nintendo games, that never go on sale, can fuck right off.

    Takumidesh,

    A base model steam deck is $50 cheaper than this, a base model Xbox series s is $150 dollars cheaper, and it’s the same price as a PS5 slim.

    arakhis_, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming
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    THEN LET ME FAKING PLAY MARIO KART WORLD WITH MY FRIENDS ON IT

    MECHAGODZILLA2, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

    Just got a tool set and replacement battery ordered for mine today, way ahead of them

    Nikls94, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

    Imho the price is justified. By raw numbers it’s a beefier steam deck for + $30.

    Oh, and you get a dock that increases its power.

    piyuv,

    By raw numbers I have around 500 games on steam and there’s a huge sale every 3-4 months. Deck is also a pretty capable computer and runs Linux. Deck can run games from many platforms, not just steam.

    Gatito, (edited ) do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming

    Not to excuse Nintendo, but I think people need to stop being such big consumers. Having new phones and new consoles on release is completely unnecessary; I bet most gamers have bought games that they haven’t even played yet, let alone finished, and are already anxious for a system that hasn’t even been released.

    I think we all can be more patient and frugal, and stop following trends and releases so closely.

    evening_push579,

    I both dislike and like how I am called out in this post.

    smeg,

    I’d love this comment to be a sticky post on every new thing announcement. Trouble with us humans is we like to really get into a thing that’s completely out of our control, and then we get very upset when it goes in a direction we don’t like. Being able to take a step back and say “ah well, guess that’s not for me anymore” is much better for your own mental health than getting angry at consumerism.

    chunkystyles,

    FOMO is a helluva drug.

    MoreZombies,

    I appreciate this and agree 100%, but there are a LOT of factors besides just having the thing that make it harder than “just stop consuming”.

    If you are someone who typically only plays games with friends, it can very much be a case of “Buy or miss out”. I have a group of friends who will probably buy GTA VI and play hundreds of hours of multiplayer together. I know I will not be rewarding Rockstar for their inevitably shitty choices and behaviour with this game (Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes), and I know this means just…not playing with my friends. I’m okay with that as a thirty something adult, but for others they won’t be able to “just not”.

    Then you have all the FOMO stuff - I refused to buy Diablo 4 on launch in protest of prices and Blizzard, etc. But it was VERY hard for me, being aware I was missing out on an exper

    Limited time items, exclusive events, etc, can all play a factor for those who’s brains are tickled in just the right way.

    I wish it were simply a case of patience and frugality.

    Gatito,

    You’re right. I didn’t consider that it’s easier to play with other people when adopting early. I didn’t consider this.

    gamermanh,

    Fuck them for what they did with GTA VI, greedy assholes

    Did you mean V? And by that I mean: do you mean Online?

    V is still a great single player experience for a reasonable price. Online is considered separate and always was, and I can completely agree with what they did to that. I can also agree that not giving us dlc for V in favor of Online updates was crap, too. But R* still gave us a game worth the money that’s still playable right now

    If there’s been some huge update with VI that I missed then, well, shit. I think I saw the price went up $10 on some retailers site, but idk if I trust that kind of shit

    kratoz29,
    @kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

    I don’t consider myself an early adopter, heck I never am, the only time I recall is getting a New Nintendo 3DS Black Friday edition even before the BF (the thing arrived first in Mexico) just because it was a special edition and the only way to get that model here officially… And for a good price even!

    The only reason I am tempted to get a Switch 2 is because it probably means it will get exploited easier/earlier than the next batches.

    cod,
    @cod@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly! That’s why I love !patientgamers

    Gatito,

    Ohh! Just joined! Thank you!!

    alehel,

    Checks backlog. Yup, currently at 427 titles unplayed. Holy cow, didn’t think it was that bad! And I haven’t even added my free games from EGS.

    Thcdenton, do games w Can't Afford A Nintendo Switch 2? Buy A Switch 1, Nintendo Says - Insider Gaming
    @Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh I can afford it. Still not buying it.

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