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JoMomma, do gaming w Palworld Has Huge Weekend, Sells 5 Million and Overtakes Cyberpunk 2077 in Steam’s Most-Played Games List - IGN

People must be bored, that game is less than mediocre

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Or they've been dying for a different way to play Pokemon than what Nintendo's been selling them for decades.

GammaGames,

Yup, it’s pretty fun 👍

Moira_Mayhem,

Bought it last night, have been playing 15 hours straight and I regret the absence of sleep.

But not enough to quit, I haven’t found a dungeon yet.

It’s a blast and brings together the best parts of so many games I love.

DebatableRaccoon, (edited )

Not to mention in a more impressive format. I thought Arceus looked graphically barren and I know there are still plenty of people annoyed at the pop-in in Scarlet and Violet. I know it isn’t really Nintendo’s thing to play into the performance competition but a lot of people just expect better these days and the much bigger scope of Breath of the Wild and impressive level of expansion in Tears of the Kingdom has made even Nintendo fans see that there’s better out there.

ursakhiin,

Arceus: graphically barren but mechanically superior

Was my take.

DebatableRaccoon,

I’d generally have to agree. When it came out, I definitely recall saying that I’d’ve grown up a pokemon fan (because Digimon was superior in anime 💪🏻😜) if Arceus had come out back then. That said, there’s still plenty of places it could be better. The lack of many of my favourite pokemon was why I ended up quickly dropping it.

peter,
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

It’s just the “pokemon with guns” hype

ag_roberston_author,
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“Pokemon with guns on PC.”

That’s a great sales pitch.

Pheonixdown,

While that’s part of it, it’s definitely not “just” that.

Sadly, part of it is that the game has released in a fairly stable/polished state, which is considered a positive in the world of broken releases. The multiplayer also just works with little issue as opposed to some problems of yesteryear.

There’s also a perhaps surprising pent up demand for good co-op PvE focused games. They blow-up hard but tend to fade out depending on gameplay quality. Part of this is the streamer effect, streamers like to play group games with other streamers because it helps cross-pollinate their audiences. Sales are also improved due to group/peer-pressure, if someone can pull in their friend group, that’s a lot of sale multiplication.

I also think that the developers tried to make a game that’s fun. A lot of decisions seem to have followed the rule of cool for this type of game e.g. pal mounts, firearms, catching people, automation of survival elements via slavery.

It also manages to have both a clear and guided progression system while maintaining the freedom for the player to just fuck off and do whatever they want while still at least partially progressing.

My only honest gripes with the game are how world saves are handled (they should use the Grounded system in addition to having dedicated servers) and that I for some reason can’t find the exit button on the title screen so to quit I need to alt-f4, for the rare times I need it.

Kiosade,

I played a bunch over the weekend, didn’t even get to use a gun yet… the game is so much more than that.

t3rmit3,

Nah, it’s actually pretty great. I’ve played hundred of hours of ARK, and this scratches the same “survival-crafting with monsters” itch that ARK does, but with a lot of big improvements (not being heavily PvP-focused, being able to safely store your ‘dinos’ when you’re away, having a reason [loot, npcs, pokedex completion] to explore the worldspace beyond finding dinos or resources, etc).

ormr,

It’s a fun game with a nice mixture of looting & leveling, survival, base optimisation and progress, exploration and fighting.

I also like the humor of paldex entries hahaha.

naevaTheRat,
@naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Idk, it’s definitely not some sort of life changing experience or high art or whatever. It is however kinda cute, a little bit funny, has an enjoyable gameplay loop, adequate exploration, and satisfy combat. It’s also pretty cheap.

The monster mechanics are surprisingly well integrated into the world. Just basic shit like pulling out a burny fox to see when in a cave is pretty immersive. Then discovering special mechanics like the boar that rapidly mines by charging rocks has you throw out your pick and start careening around like a loon.

It only really has legs during the discovery phase I think, but that’s fine. Games aren’t bad if they end.

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@beehaw.org avatar

Id hope they use the popularity to improve it further but I really don’t wanna get invested in the same way I have with valheim, they have been mostly resting on their laurels so far and these developers will probably do the same. I hope I’m wrong tho, seems like a game I’d enjoy if it had more depth.

naevaTheRat,
@naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It would be nice, I wouldn’t bet on it though and don’t recommend buying something in the chance it gets better later. I’m enjoying myself atm and wont be mad if it never becomes more than it is.

Hopefully it’s at least a signal to other devs that there is real market interest in base building + monster collection or just open world monster collecting

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, that’s always good advice, I don’t mind missing out on hype since I’d be playing single player anyway. Enshrouded is also out and it might turn out to be the better option too, who knows. Seems like a good start of the year for survival games enjoyers either way.

Moira_Mayhem,

Sorry, you’re wrong. It’s good.

JoMomma,

Sorry, you’re wrong. It’s bad.

Fedizen, do games w You Can Capture Humans In Palword

This is a… choice

crossmr, do gaming w Palworld Sells Over 1 Million Copies in Just 8 Hours as Steam Servers Struggle to Cope With Launch - IGN

Playing it now. It's not bad. It's not great. The flying is the laziest implementation I've ever seen.

hal_5700X, do games w You Can Capture Humans In Palword
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Classic IGN article.

eutsgueden, do games w You Can Capture Humans In Palword

It’s a game. Stop manufacturing issues.

jedibob5,

As far as the ethics of it, whatever, there are games where you can do worse. I just think it’s annoying that the devs went this far out of their way to cynically controversy-bait up attention for themselves. There was no need for this - it adds nothing to the gameplay beyond shock value.

wildginger,

Thats half of the games steam page. They definitely play up the ethical dilemma aspect of the gameplay

Ashtear, do gaming w Palworld Sells Over 1 Million Copies in Just 8 Hours as Steam Servers Struggle to Cope With Launch - IGN

Peak of 370k concurrent players on Steam already, topping Starfield’s peak.

Did this come out of nowhere or did I just miss the signs?

thingsiplay,
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar

Doesn't come out of nowhere to my knowledge. It is quite anticipated game by many, as it was shown with trailers before on big shows. Everyone was wondering what kind of game this will be and everyone just knew it as "Pokemon with guns" where you can catch and slave other Pokemon like creatures. I'm actually surprised that so many didn't heard of the game before.

Ferk,
@Ferk@kbin.social avatar

And that was just the warm up.
850k concurrent players and rising right now...

NOOBMASTER,

It practically came out of nowhere.

Truck_kun, do gaming w Sony Reportedly Refunding The Last of Us 2 PS4 Digital Owners Who Bought PS5 Version Full Price - IGN

When your console is highly compatible between generations, such as x86/amd64 … maybe should just sale ‘the game’ and give users access to the older console version, and the version with any enhanced features only accessible on the newer console.

GammaGames,

That’s how lots of ps4/5 games work

ampersandrew, do gaming w Palworld Sells Over 1 Million Copies in Just 8 Hours as Steam Servers Struggle to Cope With Launch - IGN
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

The last Pokemon game I played was Y. It was largely the same game as Blue and Gold. This expands on the concept in fun, crazy ways, and it's got me intrigued.

Fiivemacs,

This isn’t pokemon…

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I mean, it isn't but also it is, in the same way Lies of P isn't Bloodborne.

TommySalami,

I haven’t purchased (yet) but that’s exactly why it caught my attention and it seems to be the way they wanted to be seen.

TwilightVulpine,

The creature designs are similar to Pokémon but that's where it begins and ends. Palworld is a survival sandbox with creature collecting, it doesn't even have turn-based battles. It's far more similar to Ark or Rust than Pokémon.

If anyone wanted a game that "is but isn't Pokémon" they should look into TemTem or Cassette Beasts.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Different degrees of shaking up the formula. This is Pokemon-but-survival, and I've got another game in my backlog already that's Pokemon-but-metroidvania.

TwilightVulpine,

Yeah, but I would say that already makes it more markedly different, even compared to, say, Monster Hunter Stories. Sure, there's cutesy creatures which gives it some similar aesthetics but the gameplay experience is not even remotely similar.

Compared to Lies of P which looks and plays like Bloodborne, it's not really that close.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Heh, maybe I'm splitting hairs, but if you want a game "like Pokemon", they've been making exactly that game for 30 years, but there's only a handful of games in the ballpark of Bloodborne. If you want the fantasy of roaming a world, catching creatures, and battling with them, there are lots of ways to skin that cat that GameFreak and Nintendo haven't been doing that aren't at odds with preserving those core pieces. Likewise, I don't enjoy Monster Hunter, but some of its core pieces are present in the likes of Horizon and Mercenary Kings, and I love those games for taking the high level parts of Monster Hunter that do work for me.

TwilightVulpine,

I get it, but part of my point is that there are games that are very much like Pokémon for someone who wants 90% of that with a little bit of a different twist. Meanwhile I'm seeing some people looking into Palworld and going "Wait is this Minecraft? I wanted Pokémon with guns."

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

The last Pokemon game I played was Y. It was largely the same game as Blue and Gold

Except they removed all traces of dungeons/caves (they are simple hallways with no exploration) and puzzles

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

To be fair, those were so simple that they were barely a challenge when I was 9 years old. When I played Y as an adult, they probably wouldn't have even felt like puzzles.

caseyweederman,

Go play Arceus

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

No thanks.

Rpmkp,

@caseyweederman agreed, Arceus was a breath of fresh air in an incredibly stale series. It’s worth playing.

@mike591 @ampersandrew

ampersandrew, do gaming w Sony Reportedly Refunding The Last of Us 2 PS4 Digital Owners Who Bought PS5 Version Full Price - IGN
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Maybe treating these console generations as though they're somehow super different is more trouble than it's worth. Meanwhile, PC games I bought 20 years ago can easily be run on new hardware at higher frame rates and resolutions than when I bought them.

Akadius, do games w Ubisoft's customer values

Ubisoft, I remember buying the animus pack and few years later the dlc of my game getting stolen from me.

I’m still paying for anno stuff but after that it’s over, if I want to play another assassin’s creed, it would be the pirate way.

Smacks, do games w Ubisoft's customer values
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

It’s 100% moral to pirate Ubisoft games. I exclusively play Anno, since 2070 I DON’T pirate them.

I love the series, but I’d be happy if Ubisoft went belly-up tomorrow and never saw another game in the series. It’s a fair exchange to see a bloated, rotting corpse of a monster finally die.

helloharu, do games w Ubisoft's customer values
@helloharu@lemmy.world avatar

Ubisoft Exec Says Gamers Need to Get ‘Comfortable’ Not Owning Their Games for Subscriptions to Take Off

I’m already comfortable not owning any Ubisoft games.

Seriously, I will be quite happy missing a game or franchise if there’s a lack of physical media in their lineup of releases. I know it doesn’t make sense for every game, but if it’s to push me towards a subscription service, then I’m just not going to be a customer.

slimerancher, do games w Ubisoft's customer values
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know why everyone is so angry at this comment. The question was about what will it take for subscriptions to increase and become dominant in industry, the guy answered that. The interview was with the guy about Ubisoft’s subscription service, what else people expected?

If anyone talks to the guy in-charge of Gamepass, and they ask them how will gamepass increase, they wont’ say, well, if everyone keeps buying physical, that will be great for us.

d00ery, (edited )

I think the Ubisoft guy is pushing for subscriptions when a lot of people are not keen. See any of the recent articles about NatGeo pulling videos from Sony, etc etc.

As gamers grow comfortable in that aspect… you don’t lose your progress. If you resume your game at another time, your progress file is still there. That’s not been deleted. You don’t lose what you’ve built in the game or your engagement with the game. So it’s about feeling comfortable with not owning your game.

Also www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/…/000105788

If I buy a game I want to be able to play whenever I feel like it.

I completed Fallout New Vegas last year, graphics were a bit dated but the game it still great.

My point is that I don’t trust Ubisoft to do what’s good for gamers.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

First of all, not here to defend Ubisoft, I completely agree about not trusting them to do what’s good for gamers.

So, my point was, everything said in this interview, is pretty much same thing you will hear from any “head of subscription” of any company. I think MS is currently the most aggressive one, with their Gamepass. Keep in mind this interview is specifically about their subscription service, and the changes they made it isn’t about anything else. Sony is currently (or well last I read about it) most defensive with subscription, often talking about how it’s bad for the industry, but if you ask whoever is incharge of PS+, and ask them, what needs to happen before subscription will really take off, he would probably say the same thing.

As for closing down of online servers, it’s always sad when that happens. That’s a valid reason to blame a company, but pretty much all companies do that. As a patient gamer, I don’t even remember how many times I have come across a game where I would find out you can’t get all trophies because online servers have shut down. So, all companies should be blamed for this.

Heh, this reply went on longer than I expected. 😀

Earthprototype, do games w Ubisoft's customer values

Once again Ubisoft is desperate to make money and tries to push a narrative that won’t fulfill. At least no thanks to their effort or innovation. Remember when their leadership claimed that Steam was not a sustainable platform to sell games on because they wanted players to use their garbage UPlay launcher? Well, now Ubisoft games are available on Steam once again because no one cares about UPlay.

Sabata11792, do games w Ubisoft's customer values
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

I haven't touched a Ubisoft game in years. I don't even want to pirate that crap, let alone pay monthly for it.

Glide,

I tried to pick up Rayman Legends when it was I’d cheap over Christmas. I ran the game from Steam was greeted with the UPlay launcher asking me to make an account to access my game, and immediately closed and refunded the title.

Enshittification is real.

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