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scrubbles, do gaming w HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks
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Jesus everyone yes, hp sucks. A lot. But this is still good news. Steam and Linux are being legitimized as real platforms. The more companies who jump in the better.

BmeBenji,

The headline also sucks. “HP are [doing something] because [a different company’s] user experience sucks” reeks of utter hypocrisy

grue, do games w Team Fortress 2 Classic is coming to Steam thanks to Valve adding TF2 to the Source SDK

Neat!

Now what we need next is Team Fortress Classic 2.

ElectroVagrant, do games w Freejam studio closing with Robocraft and Robocraft 2 shutting down

Then they were able to take that game away from me and replace it with something I liked far less. This is inevitable for any live service game; if not replacing the game you liked with something else, then its removal altogether so that no one can play it anymore in any form. It sucks.

This is a good, concise way to describe one of the subtler problems with these types of game. At least with some of them, if they’re sold without DRM, you can keep the version you like, but more often than not, those are few and far between.

entropicshart, (edited ) do games w Manjaro Linux devs show off the OrangePi Neo prototype handheld with gameplay

But will they try to charge you $200 for a cosmetic scratch that now warrants a screen replacement and paying for shipping without fixing the original manufacturer defects?

Edit: context

EasternLettuce,

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  • CuttingBoard,

    Xtreme Gamers did a video regarding Asus’ behavior and customer service with their current handheld system. It was not good. The comment is referencing that video.

    NosferatuZodd,

    You mean gamers nexus right?

    CuttingBoard,

    Yes…I get them confused.

    secret300,

    Link to vid?

    UprisingVoltage, do gaming w AMD FSR 3.1 announced with Vulkan support, upscaling quality improvements

    Is it just me or very few games support FSR3? Which is a shame, it looks amazing on paper

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    You can replace DLSS 3 with FSR 3 with a mod but yeah, it’s weird that so few games officially support it

    UprisingVoltage,

    What’s the mod?

    Fisch,
    @Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
    PenguinTD,

    Because FSR3 is really new, released Sep 2023. Even the games that actually can patch in FSR3 didn’t get to do it properly until Avatar nailed it and just earlier this month released another update to push it further. In short, AMD is working with devs to improve their plugin integration to various engine devs, and I don’t think 3.1 is the “end goal”.

    FSR 3’s result really depends on how developer understand and work with the proposed render pipeline compare to DLSS(which basically runs AI kernal to guess what pixel values to fill). Especially with games that features pip scope(fake UI scopes with on the fly fov changes are fine) or some translucent elements where it can not do the velocity buffer properly. (basically most of the fringeness on edge or flickering/swimming are mostly from precision, and ghosting are from wrong velocity when you see the old FSR artifacts).

    TheFerrango, do games w EA opens up more patents for increasing Accessibility in gaming

    Finally, people with disabilities can experience loot boxes, ads and DLCs at no extra cost

    pyromaniac_donkey, do games w Godot Engine hits over 50K euros per month in funding

    vamos

    Amends1782,

    Lessgoooo

    Ferk, do gaming w Unity introduces new fees for game devs based on revenue and game installs
    @Ferk@kbin.social avatar

    Another reason to use Godot.

    gk99, do gaming w ARMORED CORE VI FIRES OF RUBICON rated Steam Deck Playable ahead of release

    Pretty much meaningless after TLOUP1 launched as “Steam Deck Playable” and was nowhere near that. I don’t expect FromSoft to screw it up, but the label has been shown to not be a guarantee.

    MudMan, do games w Steam Survey for July 2025 shows Linux approaching 3%

    I don't think it's particularly controversial these days to say that Linux gaming is way ahead of Mac gaming, so I'm not sure that part is suprising, beyond the notion that in other metrics the OS split for those is more like 15% to 5%.

    I mean, the Mac side was celebrating this month that Cyberpunk finally runs natively on it, and it is borderline unplayable on most of the hardware out there, gets comparable to what? A 5060? on the very top end.

    I read in that two missed opportunities: One, Mac gaming should get so much better. Two, somebody on the Linux side should really start taking non-gaming compatibility seriously.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    The Mac thing is two-fold. Apple moved to new architecture before it was primed and ready for gaming, and Valve has been slow to adapt Steam to it. Apple’s solution, which will not work, because Valve tried the same thing a decade ago, is to juice the market by funding ports. Apple’s putting far more money into it, because it’s such small potatoes on their balance sheet, but the result will be much the same. This isn’t a situation where getting a few heavy hitters will solve their library problem and get everyone else to fall in line. The problem is Apple and its platform are hostile to getting this sort of game on it.

    MudMan,

    It's genuinely more complicated than that, honestly. Apple did a great job of pretending these ARM devices were on par with desktop PC hardware when they... kind of aren't, in absolute terms. I wonder how much of an incentive they have to keep doing this if the result is their top of the line five grand devices start to look like mid-range PCs and the bullshit way their naming conventions are designed starts getting exposed by widespread FPS counts on tentpole game releases. I genuinely don't think Apple wants to have that conversation.

    So if anything it seems weird to me that they are focusing on this. Honestly, getting triple-A releases ported to phones and tablets seems like a much safer bet. I guess it's just hard to leave the laptop and desktop users entirely out of the loop for no good reason, but they have a lot of experience doing just that, so who knows.

    It seems pretty obvious that unifying the software is the next step for them after unifying a lot of the hardware. what that means for gaming on their devices is anybody's guess.

    And of course I don't particularly care because... I mean, macs.

    mesamunefire,

    The newer macs are also relatively in a state of flux with apple figuring out what works and what they want to invest in. Brew didn't work well for a good year after the M1 made its debut. I remember trying to get things working and it was a nightmare. It's still somewhat difficult to program for. And game devs often will do whatever it takes to release a game...which can include some strange code that only works on a blue moon or s very specific.net version.

    It's getting better each year or so but I can't blame valve wanting to just skip all the ballony untl it's in a better place.

    MudMan,

    You're not wrong, but I don't know if it should be a Valve thing anyway. For one thing, I am not comfortable with Valve owning all of PC gaming in the first place.

    But from their perspective, it's one thing to own compatibility in a system they don't pay anything for and effectively can own and another to go do work for a bigger fish. If Apple wants big PC games to run on their hardware Apple can make it happen, presumably. I mean, Meta is keeping the VR market afloat single-handedly, and there's a chance you could actually make money with this stuff on Mac.

    I do think it makes more sense for them to do that if and when all their hardware is running the same OS, or at least the same software. They don't seem to have made up their mind on whether that should be a thing, even though it's very clear it should be a thing.

    mesamunefire,

    Agreed, I dont think its a good idea to have ANY company own near 100% of the market with PC gaming. Can you imagine the DRM and copyright protections shenanigans you could pull if you were the only effective player? Valve is mostly benevolent....but theres always a chance it goes downhill with just one asshole.

    I dont claim to be in the video game industry only a dev. And macs can be easy or VERY hard to develop under depending on the underlining tools. If they dont have them....you basically have to build them from scratch (like Expo/mobile development, brew custom mac specific libraries, gnu tools that use a language not supported, etc... etc... ). If they have the libraries already installed, and is supported by apple, it becomes a breeze and, best yet, they are better than windows at less breaking changes. Not security mind, but breaking program changes. Or at least it seems like it last 10 years or so.

    The M1 Arch was a departure but not from their own tooling, just everyone elses. That from what I understand a lot of games stopped working right when the M1-3 became a thing in steam. But again someone else can correct me if im wrong. I saw the effects from a friend trying to get steam working on a newer macbook pro but I am again not an expert when it comes to the gaming industry.

    BombOmOm, (edited ) do games w Steam Survey for July 2025 shows Linux approaching 3%
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    An interesting fact: English-language adoption of Linux on Steam is over 2x the overall, all-language adoption. This mostly cuts out Chinese (25% of users), Russian (8% of users), and Spanish (5% of users). Seems America and Europe is adopting at record pace while China isn’t.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/34a29034-d5d0-4391-b6fd-693896756225.png

    www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/

    ClassyHatter,
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    Looks like Linux adoption has been skyrocketing since early this year in English speaking areas.

    fading_person,

    It always bugs me that china has higher windows usage than the rest of the world.

    By the way, is it really around 6% for english-speaking users? That’s huge!

    ms_lane,

    I wonder what it’d look like with English+German only.

    atlien51, do games w SteamOS massively beats Windows on the Legion Go S

    THIS IS THE KINDA NEWS I WANNA HEAR

    ipkpjersi, do games w Linux hits exactly 2% user share on the October 2024 Steam Survey

    There are dozens of us!

    SkaveRat, do games w Linux hits exactly 2% user share on the October 2024 Steam Survey

    Converted one of my gaming PC SSDs to a Linux disk. and I’m so amazed how well it just works with proton.

    When a have some time I’m going to fully convert it to Linux, with a small Windows VM for the 1-2 tools I sometimes need

    prole,

    and I’m so amazed how well it just works with proton.

    Yeah dude!

    I’m relatively new to Linux, so I don’t really have any experience pre-proton. But I get the feeling that there are TONS of people who haven’t tried it in years, that truly do not understand how far it has come. I’m sure they’ve heard that before, etc., but I can say that it’s 100% true this time.

    If you haven’t tried gaming on Linux since before the Steam Deck came out, I implore you to give it another shot. Even better if you use a gaming-oriented distro (I’m on Bazzite now, and it has been wonderful).

    SkaveRat,

    yeah, proton is amazing.

    I’m using linux for 17 years or so, and just kept my gaming rig as my only windows machine.

    Gaming on linux was super hit or miss. Sometimes wine (at its forks) worked nicely, sometime it was unusable.

    It got a LOT better when everyone started using unity and unreal, as they have native linux compatibility, but proton now closed the gap nicely

    recursive_recursion, do games w itch is hosting another Queer Halloween Stories Bundle for 2024
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    mesamunefire,

    Thanks, added to the description.

    recursive_recursion,
    @recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca avatar

    👍🌻

    gofsckyourself,

    To add to this, the owner of this site, gamingonlinux, was a mod on the !linux_gaming community until they were caught abusing their moderator powers. Then they deleted their account and complained on mastodon that it’s stupid design that mod logs are public. [Screenshot]

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