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atticus88th, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

A Chinese company doing what Chinese companies do best. I fully expect this game to be released and it will take a bite out of Horizons sales numbers.

Poopfeast420,
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it will take a bite out of Horizons sales numbers.

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With the focus on PC and Mobile in China, the big console franchises don’t strike me as super popular over there (based on nothing but feelings).

AgentRocket,

A Chinese company doing what Chinese companies do best.

“The word ‘copyright infringement’ doesn’t translate very well into mandarin”

dogslayeggs, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

I went to the game’s website to see how they portrayed the game as opposed to taking whatever cherry-picked similarities Sony chose to use as their argument.

Wow. It is fucking identical. Maybe the gameplay is different, but the art is indistinguishable.

CaptDust, (edited )

The hint of gameplay in trailer looks like a near copy of monster hunter games to me.

Edit - funny though, Monster Hunter x Horizon actually seems like a great combo, but not like this.

SomethingBurger,

Horizon is such wasted potential. 2 games in 8 years, and a LEGO spinoff. Where is Horizon 3? Where is Horizon Warriors? Where is the Horizon RPG?

echodot,

The world needs to be fleshed out so an RPG would actually be pretty good. The problem is it’s a pretty world but it isn’t really very interesting. The humans who occupy the world are frankly boring and you can only fight so many robot elk before you want to do something else.

A prequel would be interesting, detailing what happened and maybe explaining how things ended up the way they now are.

SomethingBurger,

An endless online humans vs machines prequel, basically Helldivers, would have been great.

overload,

They’re not robot dinosaurs, they’re legally distinct robot mammals. /s

echodot,

Yeah I don’t have the greatest love for Sony but they have a really good point with this.

It’s basically the same game; Robot animals have taken over the world because reasons, Humans survive in small groups and have reverted to some kind of native american inspired spirituality for some bizarre never explained reason, you play as hyper athletic female warrior type who has to fight said robot animal things, your mission is to acquire some long lost secret technology from before the world was taken over by robot animals.

proper, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike
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and a nolan north style ghost to boot

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

SIE further alleged that Tencent came to the company with a pitch to license the Horizon IP, to which SIE declined.

If sony has physical proof of this, Tencent is fucked and this game will never be released

NaibofTabr, (edited )

Yeah this seems like a smoking gun of intent to reproduce the IP. Hard to claim it was done in ignorance if Sony has documentation on this licensing pitch.

IWW4, (edited ) do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

Yeah, I gotta go with Sony on this and holy shit that is horizon zero dawn all the way!

Aielman15, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike
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There’s got to be irony somewhere in Sony striking a deal with Palworld, then suing another company for copying the art of their game.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

Is the art of Palworld similar to Pokémon?

simple,
@simple@piefed.social avatar

There are some monster designs that are very similar to Pokemon, but FWIW Pokemon has a lot of simple designs inspired by real animals anyway.

Maultasche, (edited )

Interestingly, most of the copied ones are the non-animal designs like Goodra with Liligant’s flower

Tollana1234567,

pikachu, bulbasaur was pretty obvious

Aielman15, (edited )
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Agent_Karyo,
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Some are the designs are pretty close I will admit, even though I don’t think Nintendo should be able to randomly shut down gamea that are vaguely similar to Pokémon.

psx_crab,

That’s why it’s irony, Sony support knockoff, got their game knockedoff and mad about it.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

But is Palworld really a knockoff? Some of the designs are similar, but I didn’t get the impression that whole game is a knockoff.

If we used Nintendo’s logic, we would never have any other CRPGs beyond Ultima. I am don’t support such measures.

psx_crab,

Yes it is, the design of some of those monster at least.

I’m not here to defend anyone, i just find it funny. If you wanna defend sony or whosthatpalworlddev, you be you.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

I would rather have more competition in the market.

psx_crab,

No one saying otherwise.

NaibofTabr, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

SIE further alleged that Tencent came to the company with a pitch to license the Horizon IP, to which SIE declined.

This seems very relevant to the lawsuit.

What did they do, decide to develop a Horizon game in-house, then ask for permission retroactively, and then release it anyway when Sony didn’t agree?

DoucheBagMcSwag,

That sounds like exactly what they did

wizardbeard,

Would not be the first time, although usually developers then go out of their way to make things more legally distinct.

Off the top of my head, the PS1 game Croc was reportedly originally pitched to Nintendo as a 3D platformer starring Yoshi (it was made by some of the team behind StarFox). They obviously reworked it a ton before it released as what it ended up as.

thatKamGuy,

Not as relevant as you would think, and actually somewhat common in the industry; Warcraft (the RTS) was developed ahead of asking for a license for the Warhammer franchise. When that deal fell through, it was rejigged to be its own thing and published.

echodot,

I think the key here is that it’s completely identical. It’s virtually the same product if you told me it was another game set in the same universe I would have believed you.

When you rejig something you have to change it enough that it’s distinct, I’m not convinced they changed literally anything.

TheBeege,

Starcraft is Warhammer 40k. Terrans are space marines. Protoss are Eldar. Zerg are Tyranids. Been happening a long time now

ryathal,

There is also evidence that an out of court settlement happened between those companies. Notably moving away from cerebrates in SC2.

bjoern_tantau,
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Doom started out as an Aliens game. Though they pivoted away from that to retain more creative freedom.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

Yessss pls damage each other

Phineaz, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

Heh, remember when everyone was playing Breath of the Wild aka Genshin Impact?

Darth_Lemmy, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike

imagine spending all that dev time to just get shredded. bruh

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w [CLICKBAIT / MISSINFORMATION] One Of The Greatest PC Games Of 2024 Was Removed From Itch.io Search Results

Gasp?!!? The game about being ground up by capitalism and the abuses of power mad men got blocked?

Sounds about christian.

Coelacanth, (edited ) do games w [CLICKBAIT / MISSINFORMATION] One Of The Greatest PC Games Of 2024 Was Removed From Itch.io Search Results
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Absolute insanity what even is this shit.

EDIT: What it was was “clickbait”, it turns out.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Christofacism.

NONE_dc,
@NONE_dc@lemmy.world avatar

They took us for fools, I’m very sorry…

simple, do games w [CLICKBAIT / MISSINFORMATION] One Of The Greatest PC Games Of 2024 Was Removed From Itch.io Search Results
@simple@piefed.social avatar

As mentioned in the itch reply, this has nothing to do with recent events. It was delisted for a while. This is clickbait.

Archive link from November showing that it wasn't appearing in search: https://web.archive.org/web/20241107033706/https://itch.io/search?q=mouthwashing

NONE_dc,
@NONE_dc@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you. I have corrected the post. I feel so embarrassed now…

simple,
@simple@piefed.social avatar

It's gamestop's fault for terrible journalism, not you. Thanks for updating the post

duchess, do games w [CLICKBAIT / MISSINFORMATION] One Of The Greatest PC Games Of 2024 Was Removed From Itch.io Search Results

Yeah, they link to other stores without offering a native purchase or download, they don’t get indexed. Not a new rule, and a rather sensible one. The product page is still available via linking.

ArchmageAzor, do games w Sony Sues Tencent Over Horizon Lookalike
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Do they have a case? As long as Tencent isn’t actively copying Horizon beyond an aesthetic, are they infringing on anything?

scutiger,

The key is whether or not someone would confuse one franchise for another based on the aesthetics. People were losing their minds over Palworld being a ripoff of Pokemon when it first released.

I could see it going either way. IP law is a mess.

echodot,

There is the additional case that apparently $0.10 wants to licence the IP. (Autocorrect has just changed the name to a price, and I’m inclined to leave it because it’s funny)

It sounds like what happened here is they developed the game and then approached Sony for the licence assuming they were going to get it (which is a bizarre thing to do because Sony were never going to give them a licence, anyone who knows anything about how Sony operate knows that)

brsrklf,

Not sure I care about who will win that one, but if Sony can prove tenc $0.10 actually came to them to get a Horizon licence, only to release “can’t believe it’s not Horizon” shortly after not getting it, that would be quite the smoking gun.

It’s basically a proof that looking as similar as possible was their intention all along.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool,

They asked for the IP to horizon when making it and made a “different” game when told no

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