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Cowbee, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

I don’t actually disagree with moving from the 60/70 USD standard, but instead I think big budget blockbuster studios should die off, and focus on making optimized, shorter, and more creative games.

RGB3x3, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

Honestly, if I get a 30 minutes to an hour of quality play time per dollar, it’s worth the cost to me.

That seems fair. People pay way more per hour for movies in the theater and other entertainment all the time.

Treczoks, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

That’s what I do. I take some entertainment - not just video games - and rate it by how much fun it gave me over how many hours and at what price. 8 hours for €40 in an amusement park? Cheap thrill. A €70 AAA game that I throw in the corner after an hour? Not good. A €200 LEGO set that takes a lot of fun hours to build and inspires me to something else? Perfect entertainment!

Sgt_choke_n_stroke, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

This is 80s company greed all over again that almost destroyed the video games industry.

We never learn.

atro_city, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

The subscription meta in full swing.

cosmicrookie, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour
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Sounds like pure greed to me

Kolanaki, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour
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Then that would mean all those games that only had 40 hour campaigns that sold for $60 were $20 too expensive.

terrrmus, do gaming w Insiders Say PlayStation’s Live Service Pivot May Not Be Going Well
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This and Square still charging forward with crypto/NFT bullshit is wild.

Eggyhead, do gaming w Insiders Say PlayStation’s Live Service Pivot May Not Be Going Well
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

Even the best live-service games end up a confusing, convoluted mess of menus and currencies that are hard to navigate. And that's before you even try actually play it.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w ‘Destiny 2’ Is Now Reselling Old Seasonal Cosmetics For Nine Times The Price

JFC…this doesn’t surprise me. After lightfall came out, I dropped the game completely

gamingdexter, do gaming w A Sliding Score Means ‘Starfield’ Is Now Xbox Series X’s 47th Highest Rated Game
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I’ve been really enjoying the game, just past 70hours on Xbox and starting the 2nd main story mission quest. Planning on starting new on PC shortly after I complete my current character. I don’t understand the console hate. I was upset when Spiderman on PS4 was an exclusive, but later I got a PS4, played/beat it, had a blast. Hate for something because you can’t play it is just wild. Just like people hating on huge houses or seeing expansive cars just because they don’t have it. Underline jealousy. If you really hate it that much because you can’t play/have it, work towards obtaining it and appreciating it. I’ve been really happy with most of the games that have come out/still planning on coming out this year, best in a long time for me

stopthatgirl7,
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Why are people just assuming it’s a console war thing and “jealousy,” when the article is talking about reviewer scores, not scores from random users?

LinyosT,

Making excuses as to why the game isn’t reviewing as highly as they think it should be. Not understanding that sone people just don’t like the game as much as they do.

rikudou,
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I was upset when Spiderman on PS4 was an exclusive

Exclusives are actively hurting the consumer, being upset is normal.

Hate for something because you can’t play it is just wild

If it’s because someone decided they can milk more money by making it exclusive, it’s not that wild.

Just like people hating on huge houses or seeing expansive cars just because they don’t have it

It seems your world view is dominated by jealousy a lot and you project it onto others. I hate huge houses and expensive cars because it’s just to show everyone around how rich you are and serves no other purpose. All that while other people suffer and struggle to survive.

CMLVI,
@CMLVI@kbin.social avatar

I mean, I get where you're coming from. But this didn't start with Starfield, and Sony has a great track record of even more restrictive platforming than Xbox does. Microsoft games are now usually accompanied by some kind of PC access.

Not an excuse, but expecting Microsoft to extend an olive branch of non-exclusivity to Sony when they have historically been incredibly averse to it themselves is not really a realistic expectation.

gerryflap, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077’s Johnny Silverhand Blew Up Arasaka Tower On This Exact Date
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I loved that game, despite its flaws. I played it about a year ago, but it was still quite buggy. The world really sucked me in though, I don’t think a game managed to ever get me that emotionally involved for so long. I think it had the right balance of V being both controlled by me, but also a fictional character with their own life. I also ended up playing it twice with different builds, which was a lot of fun

wolfshadowheart,
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A stellar game bogged down by over promises in marketing. It's a fantastic game and I played it at launch, 100%ing it with a total number of bugs under the number of fingers (both hands!). When it tried, it has some of the coolest cyberpunk concepts I've seen, not even in the main quest.

For me I think the saddest part about the game is how modding brought some of the lost vertical slice content back to the game and how some of the early game content fades throughout the game. All the passenger seat riding is quest-only, by the end of the game you can only be the driver. Wall climbing wasn't critical, but it was a very popular part of the E3 showing.

Overall though it's still la solid gamem I'm glad that mods brought in a metro system and Spider-Man swinging and pole vaulting :D

Chickenstalker, do games w Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands Are Now Handing Sony Free Wins

Console peasants btfod

ampersandrew, do gaming w Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands Are Now Handing Sony Free Wins
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I don't know, you may as well say the same thing about the Switch and every port it gets. The S has its strengths and shockingly few weaknesses given those strengths.

conciselyverbose,

The switch is a handheld and the ports it gets are for that reason. It wouldn't have sold enough to get basically anything third party if it was the same device without portability (see BOTW as a system seller when it literally already existed), and it still doesn't really get that many current gen demanding ports.

The fact that there's a worse Xbox you're required to support when the Xbox already lacks some of the asset loading tricks of the PS5 and has less units sold on top of it isn't something developers can just ignore. BG3 really isn't all that demanding for a next gen open world game, and compromising your vision to force it onto a worse console isn't something people want to do.

ampersandrew,
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The Xbox Series S is a cheap lower-resolution Xbox, and the ports it gets are for that reason. The parity scales well for most games and reduces consumer confusion.

BG3 really isn't all that demanding for a next gen open world game

Most games these days, regrettably, don't bother with split-screen multiplayer, and definitely not with the worst-case scenarios of how far apart the two players can be in that world, which is their hurdle right now.

conciselyverbose, (edited )

Parity here isn't on a scale. It's a binary trait. Either they are the same or one is worse than the other. The shitty XBOX does not have CPU parity with the real one, and it's a serious limitation that effectively means that the "good" Xbox also has that worse CPU in terms of game design. It will obviously still get some games, but it's losing games that it would otherwise get because it has nothing in common with a next gen system.

Split screen being the specific thing that BG3 is struggling to do isn't the point. It's merely a symptom. For a next gen open world game, split screen BG3 is still not that demanding. The fact that all the real action is turn based makes it far easier to make run than a similarly dense real time game with real time physics demands, and the fact that the Xbox S can't handle it is a very strong example that it's a piece of shit.

ampersandrew, (edited )
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Microsoft wouldn't have nearly the install base without the Series S, and developers can either target that platform or not, just like the Switch, because people bought it for its own strengths. If they want to scale their games up to a spec such that it runs on PlayStation but not Xbox, they're welcome to, but they lose access to a large pool of customers, like those who can stomach paying $300 for a console but not $500. There are plenty of other next gen open world games that work on Xbox.

Also, your analysis on how it should perform isn't really based in reality. We can go to interviews where the Swen Vincke calls out the way their game does split-screen specifically. And besides, at this point, Xbox engineers are involved, and BG3 will run on Xbox, though likely just next year.

conciselyverbose,

It has no strengths, and the install base is shit.

The switch only gets away with being a last gen console because it's a handheld. The Series S has all the performance benefits of a last gen console with the install base of one that released 5 minutes ago.

There is no "the way they do split screen". BG3 while running split screen is not a game that should make a current gen console struggle in any way. It makes the S struggle because it's not a current gen worth of hardware.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

$300, access to Game Pass, and playing nearly every new game that comes out for far cheaper are its strengths.

There is no "the way they do split screen".

This is just a strange argument to make in the face of interviews and contradictory evidence of other modern games running on the Series S.

ashamam,
@ashamam@kbin.social avatar

Its not the CPU that is the issue anyway. Its the memory both size and bandwidth. Microsoft addressed the size somewhat by making some more RAM available but that doesn't address the bandwidth. The issue is developers are hitting limits in shifting assets around as compared to the X. Its why you see significant texture differences and skipped RT in titles.

I don't have a crystal ball for how it will play out in the second half of the generation but you would have to think it is more likely to become a bigger issue than not. Its also imho another reason why there won't be a Pro series console. More likely they sunset the generation faster instead and just go with a whole new generation that trumps the PS5 pro. Because at least they know that the existence of a PS5 pro extends out the Sony generation enough to give them a window to do this. Or, and this would be a massive shame, this is the last Xbox hardware generation. I don't think its likely but maybe enough generations of trailing marketshare means the bean counters give up on that aspect of it.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

We already saw through court documents that Pro-or-similar consoles are expected. The difference with Microsoft is if they stick to generations like they implied they wouldn't. You could get creative with you how you count Xbox consoles and say, "Here's the Xbox 6X and Xbox 6S", where 6 is a larger number than the PlayStation's 5, which we know is a strategy that works. Out of the gate, very few games would require that larger hardware, and unlike PlayStation, purchasing an Xbox game once gets you the upgraded version on new hardware. I imagined this is the direction they were headed in when this generation was designed, but 2020 sure did change the trajectory of all sorts of things even if I'm right. I also seriously doubt they're interested in leaving the console space given the acquisitions they've made in the past few years.

maybe enough generations of trailing marketshare

The 360/PS3 generation was extremely close, and they had the lead for most of it.

AlecSadler, do games w ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ Prepared for 100k Concurrent Players, They’ve Gotten 700K

That’s awesome. Also the lack of micro transactions makes me want to support them more. I kinda wish they had a donate button or something.

magic_lobster_party,

The donate button is buying the game and their previous titles.

PanaX,

Especially Divinity 2: Original Sin.

circuitfarmer,
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I almost never buy a game on opening day for full price. But fuck microtransaction nonsense – as soon as the devs made an official statement about it, I was on board.

meldrik,
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Buy the DRM free version on GOG if you haven’t already.

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