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SamXavia, do gaming w Valve says "technology doesn't exist" yet for full Steam Deck 2.0
@SamXavia@kbin.run avatar

From what I've seen of the Steam Deck there's not far that it can go to improve as of the moment but in the next 10 years there's going to be needing another one as newer games like GTA 6 and stuff come around and eventually be on PC the tech is going to really show it's age.

clayh,

Valve’s hardware strategy up to this point has been to push into new markets via hardware innovation. So I’m very skeptical that the hypothetical successor to the deck is a more powerful version of the deck. They’ll let other hardware manufacturers push those limits and reap the benefits via software sales. The deck was exceptionally successful in that regard, it’s literally opened an entire market segment.

Whatever the “Deck 2” comes to be, I expect it will be poised to capture a different market segment, possibly AR/VR or even modular handheld hardware (totally unfounded speculation), but I sincerely doubt they have much interest in releasing a more powerful version of the same thing every few years.

Who knows, though. Valve’s gonna valve and the only thing they do with any consistency is change things up.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Maybe steamdeck 2 will be an arm processor

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Not unless they've got better x64->ARM translation than Apple does right now.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Why does it matter if they have a better translation now? The steamdeck 2 is a long way away. By the time steamdeck 2 releases I imagine their translation layer will be better than apples is today but probably not better than apples will be when steamdeck 2 releases.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

If it's not, then it'll never work, which is why Apple's endeavor is doomed too. There's such a massive back catalogue of games that we can't, won't, and shouldn't abandon that unless you've got x64 translation as good as Proton is for Windows translation, or better, switching to ARM will never work for the latest greatest games. I think that switch to ARM is nearly inevitable, but that translation needs to be excellent first.

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Why spend all those years and all that capital/manpower on R&D for a handheld that is widely touted as a success only to never use any of those lessons ever again? I can't imagine they're just going to one-and-done the Steamdeck. Seems like a massive waste to me.

HobbitFoot,

I disagree. I feel more like Steam has been focusing on being able to decouple from Windows. The hardware it has developed was paired with other initiatives to move beyond the Windows desktop. They are now at a point where they’ve basically created their own Switch that can run without Windows.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Steam finally makes consumer Linux on the desktop a thing.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

They’ll release a second one, but never a third. It’s what they do

clayh,

Steam Deck: Linyx

MagicShel, do gaming w Spider-Man 2 fastest-selling PlayStation Studios game ever

I don’t care how fast it sells - I’m not an investor. I care about whether it’s going to blow my balls off with how awesome it is. How many copies it sells on day one is more a function of marketing than quality.

OfficialThunderbolt,

The problem is, we must care if the game is to have any sequels, follow-ups, or lasting legacy. If the game is awesome, but doesn’t sell well, then it probably won’t get sequels, and will be forgotten to everyone except Wikipedia & Moby Games over enough time.

fckgwrhqq2yxrkt,

We don’t have to care though, paying attention to the sales numbers doesn’t affect them. The game sells or it doesn’t, and you are only going to affect that number by one.

Hdcase,

I’m sorry, my next post will be about your balls getting blown off to better accomodate your specific needs.

MagicShel,

Hey if a company making lots of money excites you, more power to you. But, of all the things one could get excited for about a game, this seems like pure spin. Is it fun? Revolutionary? Iteratively better than it’s precessor?

Diablo 4 sold like hotcakes and it is certainly not any of the above, so I’m pretty skeptical about the usefulness of this particular data point. But again, if this is what excites you about the game then have at it.

townfox,

I for one want to hear about his balls getting blown off

shiveyarbles,

Subscribed!

Sivick314, do gaming w Unity CEO John Riccitiello 'retiring' from company weeks after pricing controversy
@Sivick314@universeodon.com avatar

@chloyster good, he's been a plague on the industry. When you see your customers as wallets with legs you are bad for the people and bad for the company.

Fisch, do gaming w Hands-on with AMD FSR 3 frame generation - taking the fight to DLSS 3
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

What I’m really excited for is being able to play games that are locked to 60 fps (like on emulators) at 120 fps, since I have a 144 hz monitor

lupec,

I thought emulators usually didn’t have access to the motion vectors you need to implement stuff like this or DLSS? I seem to recall hearing about it at some point.
If that’s indeed the case, it’s probably not happening anytime soon because the article mentions FSR3 needs a FSR2 base to work with.

Fisch,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

Emulators translate the shaders and then render it the same way every other game does, so they do have access to the motion vectors

lupec,

I looked it up properly and I think takes such as this one, by the yuzu dev team, are what I was thinking of. Meaning, sure, some representation of the info is always available somewhere technically but it’s not usually usable information.
That all said, I’m sure better heuristics and techniques will become available so here’s hoping it gets easier in the future!

Fisch,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

Would probably be possible on a game by game basis tho which would be a lot of work but technically possible

dudewitbow,

I dont believe fluid frames reuires motion vectors as a hard requirement, else the driver level option where you force a game to use the function would never work (which is a feature).

However so far, fluid frames is only available on DX11 and DX12 titles, so many emulators would not have acess to the option. Switch emulation, and PS3 emulation which would need it the most, dont use directx

lupec,

Ah, fair. I forgot that driver level option was a thing. Hopefully they manage to make it work with Vulkan eventually.

ono,

so far, fluid frames is only available on DX11 and DX12 titles

Given how similar Vulkan is to Direct3D 12, it seems likely to be supported before long.

dudewitbow,

I think the flags exist, its just not implemented yet as AMD is being pushed to get it out sooner than later due to the long delays. But in a state where it isnt an abysmal feature (e.g DLSS 1.0)

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Star Wars: Jedi 3 is on the way, according to Cal Kestis actor Cameron Monaghan

It’d be nice if they fixed the last one before moving onto the next. At least the balance is restored, these are definitely EA products; the high quality of the first game was just a blip.

epicsninja, do games w AR horror Scrylight will "blur the boundaries of what’s real and what isn't"

So it’s a horror game that only works in houses with modern appliances.

vaultdweller013,

Behold my stuff!

Pile of old as shit appliances

smeg,

Granting a third party full access to all the questionably-secured devices in your home is the real horror

taladar,

To an IT person a house full of “smart” devices is already a horror to behold.

smeg,

You know what they say, the S in IoT stands for Security!

ASK_ME_ABOUT_LOOM, do games w Why does everyone swear so much in The Witcher 3?

Gotta wonder how many people are down voting because they think the title is moralizing, when it’s anything but that.

There’s nothing like going for a nice long walk around the world of The Witcher 3 and meeting some of the locals there. They say the nicest things. “Sod off, you misborn clod,” a guard will tell me. “Got so fucked up once, blood came out me ears,” a chap at the docks will announce. Or if I’m really lucky, “Go fuck your mums tits!” What a world to live in.

The thing is, I love this about the game. Being scolded by the ruddy-faced inhabitants of The Witcher 3 has long been one of my favourite things, ever since I first played it eight years ago.

eendjes,
@eendjes@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah, I don’t know either. I found it an interesting read, it also goes into conversation design in games. Felt like it would be appropriate here?

simple, do games w Payday 3 players endure second consecutive day of server issues, preventing them from playing

I mean this is pretty much par for the course for any online game launch. Hey, at least some people will stop buying early access so eagerly.

Hiccup, do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics

Square Enix is no longer square enix. They need to take a hard look in the mirror, like capcom, to see who they truly are or will see the collapse of the company. I fully expect either a Sony or Nintendo swooping in to buy them/ bail them out.

They keep fucking up and putting out/ producing garbage. I’m still pissed about how they ruined the remake.

mateomaui, do games w Unity will quietly waive controversial fees if developers switch to its ad monetisation service - report

ok, so fuck these people again

Shizu, do games w EA confirms The Sims 5 will be free-to-play and co-exist alongside The Sims 4

“Motherlode”: $4.99 for 25k Simleons

hyperhopper, do games w Starfield overtakes Skyrim with concurrent Steam players

No duh, it’s the new space Skyrim. Not really news or unexpected.

OsrsNeedsF2P, do games w RuneScape rolls back controversial pay-to-win Hero Pass in new update

Classic Jagex. runescape@lemmy.ml has monthly threads on open source Runescape emulations so you can play the game without their nonsense

FracturedEel,

That would be sweet, for os or rs3?

BlinkerFluid, do gaming w Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
@BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one avatar

looks at their stock

…+$500

Now we wait.

gk99, do gaming w The Chinese Room is developing Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2

I cannot extract a silver lining out of this announcement no matter how hard I try. This is like Activision announcing that the next Call of Duty will be made by Mojang, they’re just so fucking grossly incompatible with each other that it makes absolutely zero sense.

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