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SatouKazuma, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Where’s that article that shows firms that make workers redundant are worse off in the long run when one needs it? Fuck these cunts. Maybe we should just get rid of capitalism instead.

KingThrillgore, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

You know what that means: Gifting a sub with Prime is about to go away and so are all the loot drops with Prime. Also, more no opt out ads, longer preroll ads, and a larger list of partnered games getting headway.

So you know typical enshittification stuff.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

This always makes me wonder how their operation can be so pricey.

It sounds more like their human resource cost is just absurd, not that their underlying technical operation is the problem. Plus assuming they did any calculation on the ads at all, their server usage should pay for itself as more load means more views means more ad impressions.

But what does Twitch need X-thousand people for if they still cannot do anything about curating content with those endless people? All I see of them is someone writing flip-flopping statements about whether nudity on stream is okay or not, always depends on which month it is it feels like.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Video encoding is an expensive operation and probably the second largest cost next to wages. And apparently they aren’t even on an AWS SLA.

AN AMAZON SUBSIDIARY NOT ON AN SLA

Are they really a revenue sink to cover up taxable income?

BradleyUffner,

Shouldn’t the encoding happen locally, on the user’s computer, before it’s even sent to Twitch?

fushuan,

The user doesn’t send several different resolutions of video, the streamer just sends the source, and once thay have enough viewers, twitch reduces the resolution on their side so the viewer can choose either quality.

CleoTheWizard,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Or they just shutter twitch once they realize it’s unprofitable.

worsedoughnut,
@worsedoughnut@lemdro.id avatar

Don’t get my hopes up

KinNectar, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@KinNectar@kbin.run avatar

One has to wonder if they just split off adult content into a separate platform using the same Amazon logins, and including cross-platform notifications one way from the twitch site to the adult site whether it would solve both their cash flow and advertising problem.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Or just buy Onlyfans. 😅 For Onlyfans it’d solve their payment issues: Amazon allows using it for payment, and Amazon is big enough that Visa and MC cannot just threaten it.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Amazon is so damn big that they could sell the service for OnlyTwitch via Amazon. Amazon sells loads of sex toys and adult products so they just sell a virtual balance card that you redeem on OnlyTwitch. OnlyTwitch itself could be effectively a business that doesn’t have to manage payments at all and just uses balance.

Slithers,

I want to do the math here, but I’m already late to the party. Amazon sells sex toys as health and beauty products. It’s a thin vaneer of plausible deniability. I’d be curious if Amazon is actually large enough financially to actually leverage the large processors. I would be honestly surprised if Amazon is handling a large enough stake by themselves to offset literally every other vendor on the planet combined. But they might. I don’t actually know.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s kinda what I mean that they could hide it in giftcard sales so the payment processors wouldn’t really be the wiser just like how they hide adult products.

xkforce, (edited ) do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

If you are bad at your job, you lose your job. If the CEO is bad at their job, you lose your job. If the CEO is REALLY bad at their job, they get a golden parachute.

AgentGrimstone, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

Maybe he should take a big pay cut if he’s doing that bad a job

bigkahuna1986,

Is our business plan out of touch?

No, it’s the employees who are wrong.

JokeDeity, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

I’ve never understood the appeal of watching twitch streams, I enjoy the edited compiled stuff with all the boring moments cut out that ends up on YouTube sometimes, but I see no point in watching a dude eating and drinking and staring at his monitor and shouting out to viewers.

derpgon,

Actively, no, but passively on a second monitor, I occasionally join in the discussion in chat. Finding a smallish streamer who actually reads you messages is nice.

fushuan,

Maybe then watch better streams. I usually watch streamers play games while talking to the chat or commenting on the gameplay, while I play a similar game. It’s entertaining.

Juigi,

There’s a lot more than just dudes eating and shouting.

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

Wow who knew that capitulating to neo-nazis wasn’t profitable.

JoeDaRedTrooperYT,
@JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Nope. It’s because Twitch allowed nudity. This was the final straw for most

Omega_Haxors,

Would have blown right over if they didn’t foster an audience of neofascists.

JoeDaRedTrooperYT,
@JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Nope. You’re comparing two different issues.

Omega_Haxors,

If you’re incapable of seeing the bigger picture then there’s nothing I can or should say.

JoeDaRedTrooperYT,
@JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Bruh. Tf does a fascist audience have to do with Twitch falling off? What I was saying was that the debacle surrounding nudity was the last straw for most.

moon,

What are you even talking about

Omega_Haxors,

Crackergate.

moon,

I know that was a really stupid controversy, but definitely doesn’t mean it’s a neo nazi sure lol

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

No but it’s one in a long history of siding with the most fickle and destructive of the userbase. Nobody was asking them to make a big deal out of cracker, not even actual neo nazis give a shit about cracker beyond its use as a tool to bad-faith shut down people they don’t like.

This was a time when actual slurs were being thrown around completely unmoderated, famously saying that ret–d was allowed, which is an apt descriptor for what taking that stance and then proceeding to ban a bunch of their biggest left streamers for a discussing a mild slur was. It didn’t appease the people it was supposed to appease, all it did was drive away even more of the less politically repugnant users.

moon,

I was there for the drama too. It was hilarious the people crying racism for saying cracker, and the immediately follow up with the r word the same day. Mostly the Destiny guys who intentionally are bad faith basement dwellers. It was fucked up because they gave zero context about the word and grouped it up with racial slurs like the n word, which is completely racist to do that. So I definitely agree with you there. I mean we both know why, it’s because the website is 90% white males.

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games

Here’s hoping we’ll get the game we deserve instead of the game WB thinks we need

altima_neo, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Now the question is, will we be getting more great games like the old Rocksteady, or will we continue to get crap like Suicide Squad?

eutsgueden, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games

What about this indicates AAA? Planned size of 100 employees, no projects announced yet, no mention of funding. Only thing I see is “cutting-edge” which could necessitate larger amounts of funding to develop, but that’s highly speculative and depends on the direction. I imagine after their Rocksteady experience, the people hired on from that company were looking for something different, not another “AAA” studio with shareholder oversight.

CaptDust, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years

End of an era

MarioSpeedWagon, do gaming w Rocksteady co-founders have formed new AAA studio Hundred Star Games

Come on Batman Beyond. But will probably be a new IP

clearedtoland, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years

I’ve been dying to relive those younger days with the drum peripheral but it’s damn hard to find nowadays. I wish I could find something for my Series X to play with my preschooler. She’d get a kick out of it.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Clonehero is pretty good. People sell auduino guitars that work better than the old controllers. I converted my old guitar hero guitars into an auduino guitar.

Shyfer,

What about the drums and mic?

ReeferPirate,

Drum support was weeks away last I played a couple years ago. I haven’t been keeping up with development but I imagine they’re supported by now

MrDrProfJimmy,

Drums are implemented but unfortunately no vocals. Still pretty fun but not the classic experience

quams69,

Worth noting you can mute the vocal track and kareoke over the songs

siv9939,
@siv9939@kbin.social avatar

YARG is still in development but has vocal support. I've been putting off trying it out since Clone Hero works for me, but I've been keeping an eye on it's development.

clearedtoland,

Just to add that I took a look on CL and eBay, and the prices ranged from $350 to $900. That’s nuts!

CaptDust,

I chucked my perfectly working drums years ago because my PS3 died and couldn’t play any more. Kicking myself hard rn

clearedtoland,

I chucked an old hard drive with something like 20 bitcoin on it from my college days without ever giving it a second thought. I think it was like $5 each then. Imagine my surprise when BTC hit $20k.

GreatAlbatross,
@GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk avatar

Me too man. I had two GH kits and a RB one. Never used them, they gathered dust, then eventually they went in the bin.
They were just so bloody bulky.

I did manage to keep two GHWT guitars and the microphone, thankfully.

bitwaba,

Clone Hero can run on any PC. And it works with any USB MIDI drum kit. You can find used cheap ones as low as $100 or buy a new professional E-kit for $2000. If you really want to learn to play the drums (instead of just dragging it out to play video games), the Alesis Nitro is a really great quality kit in the $300-400 range.

dogslayeggs, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years

Is this game still playable on modern systems? Can you still buy the peripherals?

EDIT: I searched it myself and found the answer is Yes to modern systems, but No to peripherals. You have to buy overpriced adapters at retail and used equipment on ebay/craigslist.

jqubed, do games w Rock Band 4 DLC support ends next week, after eight years
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t even know this was still around

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