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CluckN, do games w Helldivers 2 gets its first rebalance patch

Oof those extermination missions were always a fun end-cap after doing 30+ minute intense missions. Shame to see them extended.

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, if they were concerned about people spamming those and nothing else, then I wish they’d balance the rewards / mission effort, rather than just extending the mission time.

bitwaba,

Who gives a shit about people spamming then? They only drop common samples so at best all anyone can get from spamming them is xp, credits, warbonds, and the first tier of ship module upgrades if they grind them.

There’s no value in XP after 20, no value in credits past your first ~50k when you have all the strategems you’re interested in, warbonds are nice but mostly useless except for the boosters and breaker (which just got nerfed), and the first tier ship modules are just quality of life improvements which everyone should be able to get easily anyways after 20 hrs of play.

EncryptKeeper,

Because people spamming those missions aren’t completing operations, which means they don’t contribute to major orders at all, and lower the medal output rate.

Sylvartas,

Also IIRC they even contribute to making these major orders harder, because cancelling an operation counts as failing it

bitwaba,

Then fix the issue with the medal output rate

EncryptKeeper,

There’s no issue to fix?

Graphy, (edited ) do games w Helldivers 2 gets its first rebalance patch

Always pretty lame to see weapon nerfs in pvm games since I couldn’t care less what someone’s abusing to hit their endgame quicker.

I don’t play with randoms so for me the fun of stonger gear is that I can fill the rest of my gear with joke gear. Sometimes my group will rock all mines and mortar sentry to try and blow each other up.

Edit: the railgun did need a nerf tho I mainly mean like the other smaller weapon changes.

Marsupial,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

Im fine with it, it means the game is more balanced overall and other builds become equally viable. At the end of the day it gives more choices for players.

Arrixas,

The railgun was kinda gross with how much ammo it had and how easily it could deal with chargers in safe mode

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, just switch to unsafe mode. It’s still great.

Rolder,

Nah, it takes ~4 unsafe shots to strip a charger leg now, so a little over twice as long.

Sylvartas,

You are probably not shooting unsafe shots. Just switching to unsafe isn’t enough, you have to let it charge above where the safe mode stops. They literally didn’t change anything about the unsafe shots so it should still take 2 hits with these (disclaimer: it may be bugged though. I saw the writing on the wall and stopped using the railgun a while ago, and have still not used one since)

Rolder,

Safe shots now just bounce off the armor entirely so trust me it’s easy to tell if you’re on safe. Anyway here’s video proof of a guy testing it on unsafe mode: m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qWchqvay44

He can get it in 3 if he gets a high charge buts it’s more like 4-5 on average.

Graphy,

always fine with balancing things but this just feels like the usual trend all games have these days where they’ll nerf first then a month from now have a list of buffs.

I could see the urgency of nerfing the railgun because I imagine every little gremlin is abusing it rn. It’s always the small nerfs like -3 rounds in the breaker that I roll my eyes at and wished they’d just wait until they roll out the buffs to do those.

I’m not going to see any gameplay changes while I’m running from 2 bile titans plus horde and my breaker plunks 3 less times.

GBU_28,

Odd energy.

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see them rolling out major buffs. They are being very careful to avoid power creep. All the people that want Helldives to be a walk in the park are playing the wrong game. Also they can just lower the difficulty and be fine.

Graphy,

Twenty bucks there’s gonna be a big ol post that gets a lot of attention for adding +1 round to ten different guns a month from now.

I’m not sure where you’re getting the “blank wants blank to be blanker” vibes from but you go off.

I personally love the difficulty and to me this is just Nazi Zombies in a reskin. Where the harder difficulties are higher waves… so you’ve gotta run a train, your guns are really only for panic situations, and sometimes the train catches up to you before you grab your packed gun, so you lose it.

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

That’s wasn’t directed at you directly, that’s why I said lots of people and not you. I’ve just seen a lot of people complaining about it.

I generally agree with your take. I just don’t think they will do a significant buff to anything they debuffed any time soon. I think they are trying to push the players to be more versatile.

Asafum,

You can’t just lower the difficulty and progress though, mats are difficulty gated and with how absolutely gross and ridiculous the player base got (5 missions in a row getting kicked right at extraction) I only solo. :(

dlpkl,

Easy solution, just be the host

Zahille7,

I haven’t played the game but damn, that’s shitty.

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

They also nearly doubled the recoil of the breaker. That’s a huge deal.

Graphy, (edited )

Eh, I rarely shoot anything with my breaker besides dumping into a stalker/solo in the way stranglers. On harder difficulties it’s just not worth trying to accurately hit any weak spots on like chargers or anything else that would require precise aiming.

Blaidd,

Nope, not a huge deal at all. Still don’t feel any recoil when using the breaker.

Vordus, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

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  • KingThrillgore,
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Remedy is publicly traded on NASDAQ Nordic, they can issues shares or debt for the money. But they’re probably going to buddy buddy with Epic Games again

    Passerby6497,

    Well then, if that asshole Sweeney is involved, I won’t be playing this game for a decade until it gets a sensible release. Which is a shame, because the first one is such a gem.

    I_Clean_Here,

    How did you play the first game? It’s not 10 years old yet.

    stringere,

    I think the implication is that they would not buy it if released only on Epic. Neither would I if it came out as an Epic exclusive.

    Damage,

    The banks

    state_electrician, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    Control was such a nice surprise. I hadn’t heard anything about it and just grabbed it on a whim in some sale and I loved the game from start to end.

    OrderedChaos,

    That clock bug. Sigh.

    The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505
    @The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world avatar

    Good. Now get rid of Epic Fail Games.

    catalyst, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505
    @catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh nice. I loved Control, so this is comforting to see!

    Coldgoron, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    Hope this means more releases on gog.

    KingThrillgore, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Well this means they’ll almost certainly make it EGS only

    randomaside, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505
    @randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    “TAKE CONTROL” -Old Gods of Asgard

    ech, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    Fuck yeah. Remedy has just been killing it and having Control fully under their umbrella is great news.

    steal_your_face, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    Good for them. Now please release future games on steam.

    SineSwiper,
    @SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Seriously. I want to play Alan Wake 2, but not if it’s on Epic’s store.

    CleoTheWizard,
    @CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

    There are… other means available

    domi,
    @domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

    I used those other means but would like to give them money for a fantastic game.

    arefx,

    Remedy deserves the purchase though the game is fantastic, epic drama aside, but I hear ya.

    Radicaldog,

    Epic funded that and allowed them to take the risk. In that case they’re the good guys, so I don’t see the point in being a hardliner about their store. Use Playnite if you are adamant about having all your games in one launcher!

    MDKAOD,

    Asian Wake 2 will likely never come to another platform. It’s published by epic games. Not a timed exclusive situation.

    Lemmythedog,

    I’d like to play this game.

    MDKAOD,

    So play it. Support the developer. I’m staunchly anti epic, Alan Wake 2 has been my only exception.

    Lemmythedog,

    Asian Wake

    MDKAOD,

    🤦

    altima_neo,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    God yes, fuck Epic

    lepinkainen,

    Tim Sweeney has an infinite money hack called “Fortnite” and he uses it to get exclusive games

    neonred,

    I’d be happier if they release on GOG

    ouch,

    I will fully support this once they release GOG Galaxy for Linux. Which is never.

    SidewaysHighways,

    : (

    Corgisocks,

    I’ve ever used GOG Galaxy, so I don’t know what it offers, but Heroic launcher has worked for the GOG games I’ve played.

    I_Has_A_Hat, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    “Baby, baby, baby, orange peel.”

    Lojcs, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    Hope they can get quantum break too

    BertramDitore,
    @BertramDitore@lemmy.world avatar

    Quantum Break was SO good. I’ll die on that hill. I want more of it.

    HWK_290,

    You can tell they’re laying groundwork for the remedy verse with Alan Wake 2, including Quantum Break

    :::

    With Tim Breaker (played by Shawn Ashmore, aka Jack Joyce) in the dark place, dreaming he’s living whole other lives. Plus Mr Door/Mr Hatch

    :::

    FeelzGoodMan420,

    Great story and really cool atmosphere but dogshit gameplay lol.

    aksdb, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    So they have full Control now.

    JoMiran,
    @JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar
    obinice,
    @obinice@lemmy.world avatar

    ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

    SidewaysHighways,

    THIS HURTS YOU

    ogeist, do games w Remedy acquires full rights to the Control franchise from 505

    My only fear is that they only do Epic exclusives.

    c10l,

    Same here. That’s the reason I haven’t played Alan Wake 2.

    Wahots,
    @Wahots@pawb.social avatar

    I didn’t even realize it released since it was epic exclusive, lol. I’m sure it’s good, but there is frighteningly little these days that would get me to download another launcher.

    WldFyre,

    Oh no not another launcher, the horror

    echo64,

    it’s so crazy to me that you guys are like this, it’s a different exe, it’s fine.

    i have a switch just to play games that aren’t on my choice of platform, it’s fine. wild. it would be so weird to actively avoid things I know I’ll really enjoy just because i have to buy it via a different store than my favorite one

    csolisr,

    It's not that I dislike buying games from another store (I have quite a few from GOG and Itch), what I'm wary about is the loader - especially knowing that Epic is too buddy-buddy with Tencent and both are known to siphon unnecessary amounts of user data.

    c10l,

    This is obviously due to personal choices, so take everything I say here as things I care about - not necessarily that I expect everybody else to care about.

    It’s not “a different exe”. It’s got Epic’s DRM - meaning it’s tied to the Epic Store, its continuous service, etc. If they fold, I lose access to the games I have on it. In all fairness, I don’t think they will fold any time soon but it still worries me.

    With Steam not as much, for a couple reasons: they’re bigger so slightly less likely to fold; they’re not publicly listed so they answer to Gabe Newell and don’t have any legal requirement to increase share value; they promote and put a lot of time, sweat and money towards Linux gaming; and their store is just generally better than Epic’s.

    Epic, on the other hand, is actively hostile to Linux gamers: you can’t even play Fortnite on it, they have no native store/launcher; and they don’t have any of the pros of Steam.

    Furthermore, I already own more games than I will probably be able to play in my lifetime, so it’s not like I’m “missing an opportunity” by skipping a game that’s on the Epic store. :)

    archomrade,

    I wouldn’t have played it either if I hadn’t decided that format shifting games/media is personally ethically acceptable.

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