I mean, the no build mode is ok. The concept of building a fort and defending it Left 4 Dead style, if done right, could be endlessly fun with friends. Each wave would require repairs and more sophisticated builds to take on tougher mobs. But yeah, what Fortnite became never drove me to play it unless friends asked me to.
Save the World is very fun. I also got fortnite the day it came out on XBox and loved save the world. When they shut that down, I never played fortnite again… until i saw they brought back save the world and I’ve been playing regularly lately.
Zelda breath of the wild - it’s one of the worst Zelda games I’ve ever played and I’ve played so many. There were so many bad decisions made with this game from weapons breaking to getting rid of traditional dungeons. It’s a great open world game but a terrible Zelda game.
The Horizon series by Guerilla Games - These games are good for the most part, however they suffer from long stretches of boring open world where you have to fight robot dinosaurs with underpowered weapons. The whole point of the combat is to find weaknesses with the enemies and exploit/attack those weaknesses, but the game never at any point explicitly explains that concept or focuses on that concept. It expects you to just understand what to do. Not to mention the absolutely stupid grinding for mats to make new weapons and armor. Melee combat is terrible, the story for the most part is pretty good but man does it take forever to pick up, it overstays it’s welcome. They are technical powerhouses but just so grindy and boring.
I agree with all you said about Zelda BOTW. As a Zelda game I was really disappointed. But if you set aside the Zelda part it was actually a pretty fun game for me. I really enjoyed the exploration and it was the best open world game I played so far. But too easy forgettable dungeons and too easy bosses and darn weapons breaking really bothered me so I’m not even interested in the TOTK. I’ll wait for the next Zelda game and keep my fingers crossed.
Pretty sure they’ve stated Zelda games will lean closer to the two recent entries going forward, so those of us who think like this really can only cross our fingers that something resembling previous Zelda titles returns.
What I love about the Zelda games is that they try out something new with each title. So who knows, maybe they’ll eventually do a Zelda that’s geared more to fans of the older titles.
Weapon breaking is controversial but I see it as a mechanic with positive impact on the game. Just because your weapons were not permament it actually added choice into which weapon do you want to use in the battle
It does not add any choice. All it did was encourage me to speed run my way to the master sword and essentially go down the line of weapons I had in a boss fight until I ran out. There was no strategy, just a sense of never wanting to use any of the good weapons and hoarding them. It was so bad I marked a spot on the map where weapons would respawn every blood moon so I could at least have some good weapons. Guess what that’s called in every other game? A repair mechanic. Don’t even get me started on the master sword “breaking” for no thematic reason.
I’m on the disagree side on this. As much as I did use whatever garbage the game threw at me, there was no incentive to use your best weapons tactically, because unless you were fighting a boss, breaking a good weapon would not bring an equivalent reward… and then the major bosses were weak to the Master Sword anyway.
It also felt incredibly unrewarding to explore and open chests only to find yet another disposable weapon rather than some permanent upgrade like the heart pieces used to be.
Around the time I felt like Horizon Zero Dawn did more to encourage smart use of multiple weapons than Zelda did, by giving them different funcions and making it so enemies had different defenses and weak spots.
I felt the same way about the first Horizon game. I was playing on normal, barely making any progress because A) I couldn’t be assed to care about any of the characters, and B) the combat was really finicky.
I mean, I get it you’re fighting giant killer machines with a bow and arrow, but still. I had a way more enjoyable time when I turned the difficulty down and got a couple mods (just ammo and carry capacity upgrades so I didn’t have to stop to collect resources after every single fight).
Pretty much any competitive online game. It’s not that I don’t like competing. I just feel bad for the others if I win and I feel bad for losing if I lose
Do you have anything to suggest? Me and a friend would like to re-dive into minecraft as a cozy co-op experience but we both have some experience with it from 2010-2018 and the new stuff that came out the last few years just don’t look that convincing.
I’ve seen modpacks mentioned, but there’s so many I don’t know where to start
I’ve also been a bit out of the loop the past ~4 years, but Feed The Beast is a good place to start. There seems to be a lot of variety depending on your playstyle. Some are technology focused, some are adventure focused, some are custom gamemodes like skyblock, There’s even FTB University which is a modpack to teach you how complex mods work.
Look a remaster should or could have obvious upgrades, sometimes it’s visuals, videos, style, controls etc. that to me is good.
But that quote specifically tells me “the game has been changed for current day sensibilities” and I hate that. I feel it takes away from what the original had in mind, for good or bad.
I understand that many media have been racist/misogynist/ageist and accept that it was a product of its time. But I don’t think it does it any good to essentially pretend that it didn’t happen and I feel we’re just pretending it isn’t what it truly is when it’s changed.
I do think remakes are different however. I feel they are taking the idea of the original but redesigning it in a way that the new designers for see.
BUT the fact is, that quote is only ever seen on media that hides the past, not remakes the future.
It does tell you that it’s been changed, though. You can typically still go and play the original game. And it enables the people affected by -isms to enjoy it when sometimes said -isms would pull them out of it for them otherwise.
And it’s not like the original intent was for people to be distracted by what would have, to the developers, have likely seemed a small or unquestioned detail. We can never truly approach a game the way its original audience did anyway because culture changes so much, and a large part the experience you have with art is what you bring to it. Thus why graphical updates can make the game look like you remember it, even though it now looks much prettier. I think these sorts of updates can be similar to that.
Granted, it’s harder to access the original game because of hardware. But even so, a lot of original intent is always lost in the process of making a remaster. I’d argue “for modern audience” updates tend to be less of a departure than changes in visual design (the different lighting in the various Myst remasters that changes the mood, the extra foliage in Shadow of the Colossus remasters) or mechanics updates (the ability to control Resident Evil like a regular game instead of via tank controls).
Edit: I think my ideal scenario would be if remasters include “modern audience” updates of all kinds, to make the game as enjoyable for new players as possible, but also that the originals be made more easily available such as by legalizing or sanctioning emulation for old games.
Interesting but I do think things are a little different:
A lot of people seem to be commenting about how a remaster is about changing atmosphere or visual changes. And I agree with you. But OP is asking specifically about games with the quote “for modern audiences” in the game and that quote is not added for the visual or control or minor game design changes, but instead specifically to tell you it’s removed the “isms” out.
I think your point about isms makes sense, it’s just that I’m of the opposing view. That I think the “isms” have been removed out is like censoring a painting or movie. Sure it’s easier to digest, but what made the media so poignant is sometimes the rawity of it.
I guess I don’t think you’re wrong, just that I think it takes away from the original media for the only reason that “it sells more if we can widen the audience”.
For me the ideal would be you could choose between the two. How the game was originally made but with the updated graphics/control/design. Or the new one that removes any isms to placate people’s sensibilities.
I don’t think however my preference would happen because it goes against the idea of “hay we can sell more if we tell everyone we removed everything controversial about the game”. So I guess your idea solution is probably the best middle ground :)
I usually emulate on my Steam Deck. I still have a Nintendo Online subscription going as it’s required for multiplayer (hate that that’s a thing), but I rarely use the emulators. I wouldn’t pay for the Online+ subscription, it doesn’t seem good value to me.
I’m in a similar boat. Before I had my Steam Deck, I played retro Nintendo games on the Switch. However now I prefer to move between my Steam Deck, PSPi6, and Anbernic handhelds (depending on what I want to emulate). It’s annoying that you can’t get the save files off the Switch, though. I have some games that I got pretty far into, and I would like to move those over.
PS5 is nice if you can’t afford a PC capable of 4K or Ray Tracing for the games that are on every system ($500 for a machine capable of high fidelity gaming is a good value; couldn’t build a PC for that price with the same capabilities atm).
It might be more worthwhile if the exclusives for it weren’t able to be counted on 1 hand. There’s very little to warrant buying a whole system if you’re only interested in the exclusives.
The Ray Tracing argument and 4K are both shit arguments. On the PS5 most games are not 4K native, those that are, are locked to 30 which is an horrible experience. Ray Tracing is the same thing, and not only is PC Ray Tracing much more advanced and better looking, but it also locks you to 30 fps modes on PS5. I doubt the PS5 Pro will change that. If you forget the 30 fps sad modes that have 4k/ray tracing, suddently you can actually build a PC yourself that plays the same games for $600-800 (bit more than a PS5 but ITS A FULL PC, does everything, not games only) that for that price can play 1080-1440p games with ease at 60 fps with graphical fidelity similar to the PS5 if not better since you can better fine tune the graphical settings of all games. Ray Tracing will kill it, just like it kills the PS5.
In my style of life (PC-first) I myself consider a console to be one of those extra expenses that you have only if you have free money to spare. Having games on your couch and big TV is amazing, but if you need a PC anyway for daily life, might aswell waste a bit more and get a great PC for gaming too. If it’s a powerful laptop, it can also be your living room “console” just by plugging some cables anytime. Having a console after having a good PC feels like luxury to me (in a bad way), and very optional.
However if your PC is absolute trash but you see no reason at all to buy a new one, because your life style rarely needs to use it, and you absolutely cannot be bothered with Windows configuration and all its BS, then a console is 100% justified. Consoles are great for people who just don’t care and just want to play a game a few times per month.
I guess some people want a pc and a console like me and some people just want a big gaming pc. Both ideas are fine and no one should be looking badly at the other.
We’ve made our calculations and for me a « shitty PC » and an easy to setup gaming system like the ps5 is what I need.
But it’s perfectly fine for me if someone wants to go the other way. I’m not gonna say they are dumb and their way is shitty because it’s not mine…
The thing that always bothers me about people saying consoles are a good deal as the hardware is cheap compared to a PC is just that it gets more expensive really quickly with software. Particularly if you get a digital only console it only takes a few games until you’re at the price of a PC. I just can’t justify buying a locked down system anymore.
As someone who skipped the last generation… I think this one is way better… Because it’s fully backwards compatible. Since I got a PS5 I’ve gone back and played many games I missed. Meanwhile the only game for the PS5 I play is GT7. And since I’ve loved every GT game, it was worth it for me. I expect that GTA 6 will be the next PS5 game I actually get.
Jedi Fallen Order. I’ve tried a couple times because I really WANT to like the game. But I just can’t stand the fucking souls style of everything comes back when you save. And the boss fights are just too punishing (for me). It’s so frustrating to get stuck on a boss or lost in a zone and come to the realization that I WAS having fun and then the game got in the way of that.
Elden Ring. I had a lot of fun with the game restarting and playing through the first zone on like 6 different characters to try different styles and see what I like. But at some point in the second zone I realized I was just stressed out all the time. It wasn’t fun, it was stressful. I can appreciate the game and I don’t regret spending the money on it, but I realized it just wasn’t for me.
I think I’m done with souls games. They’re just not for me. I really wanted to play Jedi Survivor but I suspect the new cool stuff will just make me more frustrated with the souls aspects, Oh well.
I really wanted to like JFO but I just hated the combat mechanics, it almost seemed like it was lightsaber fighting underwater with how sluggish it seemed, and I hated the number of times I died early on from basic beasts just because you can’t break a 3-button combo so if they dodge ever so slightly that’s a good 2-3 seconds they have to lunge attack.
Pyre. The long-term goal is to get you and your boys out of fantasy australia, but there are complications along the way. Namely, who gets their freedom, and who doesn’t? Are you really going to let your goofy dog buddy go when he’s your best party member? Will you throw the match and let one of your favorite rivals win their freedom instead? Wouldnt it be really funny to let the little goblin loose back in civilization instead of someone who actually wants to go back home to their families? These are the tough questions Pyre asks of you, and they go places.
I know Pyre is probably Supergiant’s worst game, but it was still damn good and very overlooked. Everyone should check it out, the story was really good. Also Epic gave it away for free once or twice, so check your library.
<span style="color:#323232;">Forms FORM-29827281-12:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Test Assessment Report
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">This was a triumph.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I'm making a note here:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">HUGE SUCCESS.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">It's hard to overstate
</span><span style="color:#323232;">my satisfaction.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Aperture Science
</span><span style="color:#323232;">We do what we must
</span><span style="color:#323232;">because we can.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">For the good of all of us.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Except the ones who are dead.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">But there's no sense crying
</span><span style="color:#323232;">over every mistake.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">You just keep on trying
</span><span style="color:#323232;">till you run out of cake.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And the Science gets done.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And you make a neat gun.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">For the people who are
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Forms FORM-55551-5:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Personnel File Addendum:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Dear subject,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I'm not even angry.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I'm being so sincere right now.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Even though you broke my heart.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And killed me.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And tore me to pieces.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And threw every piece into a fire.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">As they burned it hurt because
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I was so happy for you!
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Now these points of data
</span><span style="color:#323232;">make a beautiful line.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And we're out of beta.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">We're releasing on time.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">So I'm GLaD. I got burned.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Think of all the things we learned
</span><span style="color:#323232;">for the people who are
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Forms FORM-55551-6:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Personnel File Addendum Addendum:
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</span><span style="color:#323232;">One last thing:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Go ahead and leave me.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I think I prefer to stay inside.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Maybe you'll find someone else
</span><span style="color:#323232;">to help you.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Maybe Black Mesa...
</span><span style="color:#323232;">THAT WAS A JOKE. HA HA. FAT CHANCE.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Anyway, this cake is great.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">It's so delicious and moist.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Look at me still talking
</span><span style="color:#323232;">when there's Science to do.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">When I look out there,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">it makes me GLaD I'm not you.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">I've experiments to run.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">There is research to be done.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">On the people who are
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">PS: And believe me I am
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">PPS: I'm doing Science and I'm
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">PPPS: I feel FANTASTIC and I'm
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">FINAL THOUGHT:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">While you're dying I'll be
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">FINAL THOUGHT PS:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">And when you're dead I will be
</span><span style="color:#323232;">still alive.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">STILL ALIVE
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Still alive.
</span>
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