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ZeroHora, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Disco Elysium
  • Sekiro
  • Zelda Ocarina of Time
  • Bioshock
  • Portal
  • Half Life
  • Nier Automata
  • Tetris

Flawed Masterpieces

  • Minecraft (surprising)
  • Dragon age Origins
  • Team Fortress 2
  • Fallout New Vegas
  • Dark Souls
  • Every Baldur’s Gate

Masterpiece in my heart: Terraria

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Good list. I desperately wanted to put Dark Souls on my list, as the first blind playthrough of it was a magical experience. But I don’t think it’s correct, no matter how much I love it. Flawed masterpiece is about right.

darthelmet,

Yeah the souls games are something I like in spite of all of the things wrong with them. There is just so much jank and bizarre design decisions.

I kinda hate that all of the games that have tried to copy them have done so to a point of not critically evaluating everything in them. And then they have all the same flaws, but none of the unique charm that makes me look past them for FROM’s games.

jacksilver,

I’m always curious why people add things like Ocarina of Time to lists like these. While the game was revolutionary at the time, I don’t think it holds up particularly well nor succeeds where later zeldas fail.

To call it an objective masterpiece I feel like it has to be a game that someone picking up today would still enjoy and appreciate. Tetris and Portal for example hold up well even by today’s standards.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

The thing that not holds well in Ocarina of Time is the N64 controls and like what they supposed to do to overcome that?

jacksilver,

It’s probably me being pedantic, but for an “objective masterpiece” the game needs to stand on its own and not on its legacy. I just don’t think Ocarina of Time holds up to later zelda games in many aspects (although I do think the story and soundtrack do).

Generally I think the ps1 and N64 era just suffer from the transition to 3D. Graphically and gameplay wise many games suffered for being the first foray into 3D gaming and those challenges wouldn’t really be settled until the next generation.

kippinitreal, do gaming w Let me save THE THINGS

If the tutorial makes you buy things, it’s obviously expecting you to pay to win 🤷

sexy_peach, do gaming w What a waste
@sexy_peach@feddit.org avatar

It’s about having fun, not winning

11111one11111,

Is it tho when you are taking out a second mortgage to pay for the hardware in your gaming set up?🤣 /s

lordnikon,

I mean maybe gaming is not the end goal for those types of people. Some people just like setting up and maintaining server hardware. One of my favorite things was maintaining a Team fortress classic dedicated server. It’s fun watching others have fun.

Lawnman23,
lordnikon, (edited )

Yeah I guess you could use it for CTF in a cyber security sense as well.

AtariDump,

Hack the planet!! It’s all garbage!

11111one11111,

I was just making a joke cuz I’ve never seen that much hardware in a single tower before lol but I agree with you 100%.

lordnikon,

Yeah your joke was funny. When I worked in the data center I would see way more than that in a rack. From what I can tell it’s only one server in that rack the rest is 2 drive arrays, a network switch, Two patch panels, a monitor, and an UPS.

Ulrich, do games w Doom the dark ages...
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

It’s a great game but it runs like ass and uses Denuvo so I can’t recommend it.

PlasticExistence,

Same reason I still haven’t played Black Myth Wukong

Hazzard, (edited )

Dude, what are you on about? Sure, it’s not as easy to run at 300 FPS, but it’s a new boundary pushing game and for what it’s doing it runs astoundingly well.

Absolutely gorgeous, and must rely on black magic because even DF reports it never has any stutter, traversal or shader, despite having massive levels with ridiculous fidelity and not even having a shader precompilation step. Hell, I can’t even understand how they got Denuvo to not introduce stutter.

Not to mention it’s somehow fairly light on the CPU despite huge enemy counts with good AI, raytracing, the best destruction physics I’ve seen in ages, and the streaming demands of massive levels. I’m completely GPU limited with a decent CPU and a 7900XTX.

Hell, it even hits 60 on consoles while doing all of this, the game’s performance is witchcraft. Eager to see the path tracing and how far we’ll be able to push this game a decade from now, like how I can run Eternal at native 4K/120 now.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

The fun thing about PC is everyone is using different hardware.

I dunno what DF is but I assume they’re running Nvidia cards on Windows, in which case you probably won’t have a problem.

My 6800XT doesn’t go above 40 FPS.

Hazzard, (edited )

I think you may want to look into DF’s recommended settings (just skip to the table and read from there if you aren’t interested in the details), touching base with my friend who I sold my previous 6700XT to, he reports a rock solid 60FPS targeting native 1080p.

That said, they don’t claim a performance increase that drastic, so you may have some other performance issues?

Oh, and DF stands for Digital Foundry, often considered the best source for benchmarking new games these days. They have several recent videos on Doom: The Dark Ages, graphics nerds always take an interest in a new idTech title.

Ulrich,
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you may have some other performance issues?

The game has forced Ray Tracing and FSR is broken. Both of which lead to terrible performance on AMD machines. Those are the issues I’m having.

he reports a rock solid 60FPS targeting native 1080p

…am I supposed to be impressed by that?

Hazzard,

… am I supposed to be impressed by that?

It’s better than you’re getting on the tier-up card from the exact same generation as what you’re running, so… it pretty clearly indicates something is going wrong on your end.

And that’s with the forced ray tracing. Regarding FSR, DF recommends using XeSS, which I’ve had no problems with even using performance mode to play on a 4K display.

It’s only really fair to judge the performance cost of the ray tracing if you’re actually running the game fairly. If you’ve maxed out every setting to ultra nightmare at native 4K or something to get that “can’t go above 40FPS” figure, then I have no sympathy for you or your performance complaints.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

It’s better than you’re getting

It’s not. I’m running in 4k.

DF recommends using XeSS

Which also does not work. I am not alone here. Tons of people are reporting this. It’s not on my end.

If you’ve maxed out every setting

I haven’t. It’s the same settings I use for most games.

I have no sympathy for you or your performance complaints.

I’m not here for your sympathy. I’m here to answer OP’s question.

Hazzard,

Alright, fair enough. The brand new AAA graphical showcase doesn’t run above 40FPS if you’re insistent on native 4K from a 6800XT. I’m not sure that qualifies as “runs like ass” like your original comment, but it’s a fine thing to qualify.

I will add however that there’s no mention of XeSS issues on the “known issues” page, so I’m unsure what you’re referring to. Only an issue with FSR frame generation and manual window resizing, and frankly I wouldn’t recommend frame generation in any circumstance anyway. Perhaps the issue you’re referring to has already been resolved?

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

I’m not sure that qualifies as “runs like ass”

As I said, I’ve had this card for years, I run tons of other games at 4k/60 high and they all work just fine. But it usually requires FSR.

there’s no mention of XeSS issues

Do a search for “DOOM Dark Ages black screen” and tell me there aren’t dozens of reports. Switching to TAA solves this issue but obviously strangles performance.

I wouldn’t recommend frame generation in any circumstance

Nor would I.

Wutchilli, do gaming w Any good mobile games?

The Balatro port is also good.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

There's a mobile port? I could've been stacking Xmult while on the john this whole time???

Object,
GissaMittJobb,

This is no longer necessary - there’s a native version released by the developer available on iOS and Android.

debil,

Thanks but I already waste too much time on my PS version.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Digital crack

daggermoon, do gaming w Let's hear both sides

This game I had on my wishlist came out recently. All 12 reviews are negative. Ouch. I’m thinking I shouldn’t play it.

Rin,

There’s only 12 reviews, you get 2 hours within 2 weeks of buying to return the game. There’s no downsides for you to try it

daggermoon,

True, but the game is a sequel and I didn’t really like the first one. I was hoping the sequel would be better. It seems not.

Iseja,

Which game?

daggermoon,

It’s a horror game called Dollhouse. The sequel is called Dollhouse: Behind the Broken Mirror.

based_raven,

You won’t know until you try it. Don’t pay attention to what others say. I made this mistake countless times with games then when I eventually played them, I loved them. Give it a go. If you don’t like it, refund it.

daggermoon,

Perhaps I’ll give it a try. I’d have to finish the first one first.

Manticore,
@Manticore@lemmy.nz avatar

The people who are first to review are those that strobgly dislike it and closed it early (or with some point to make). Everybody that strongly likes it is busy enjoying it and won’t review until they take a break or are done.

Give it time and see the reviews in a couple days.

CheeseNoodle, do games w What are some good examples of "Where the fuck do you go" kind of games?

Final Fantasy 7 has a lot of mini versions of this moment because the level art is rarely distinguished from the actual terrain you can interact with so sometimes you kinda get stuck until you realise that this time that little ramp is actually something your supposed to walk up rather than un-interactable scenery like all those previous times.

funkless_eck,

in the development a lot of stuff got cut too so there was art meant to be interacted with that ended up not being

eru777,

There is a setting you can enable to make entrance and exit visible if I remember correctly

zipzoopaboop,

Back in the day I once timed out on the bombing mission escape because I couldn’t find the right spot to climb the damn ladder near jesse

compcube, do games w Recommendations for "girly" games?

Unpacking

psx_crab, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

I have no idea what’s your complaint are though, and it’s not a remake, it’s a remaster that is significantly better than a lot of other remaster have to offer. They could’ve gave us widescreen support, some lighting change, some new horse armour and call it a day, but they somehow able to snap an UE5 rendering on top of gamebryo, some modern QOL, new character models, modern lipsync, while retaining the charm that spawned an entire genre of meme.

There’s a reason Witcher 1 isn’t getting a remastered but a remake. Gamer these day is so jaded and just can’t seems to satisfied with anything, that a witcher 1 remastered will get hated forever.

scrubbles, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)
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Just switched my friend group over to Matrix. Honestly looked at Revolt, but no federation was a non-starter. Convincing friends to leave is hard enough, unfortunately being locked into a single server was a non-starter. It’s too bad, they have a great UI, but I think they should have left the backend to trusted protocols.

dogs0n,

Just imagine the good they could have done by being a new competent Matrix client that can do everything, but instead they are a Discord clone.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

It would have been a massive win win

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

If you like Discord’s UI, there is a new Matrix client being developed - called Commet.Chat - that is trying to look and feel like Discord.

Might be worth checking out!

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Oh that’s AMAZING! I’m going to try it out tonight!

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

I also hadn’t used it in a while - used to be very rough around the edges.

Just installed it on my phone, it’s actually pretty usable now!

tal, do games w Does the 2 hour refund limit on Steam affect game design?

The other elephant in the room is if steam refunds are meant as a demo for everything or just to check technical issues like FPS and network connection issues

I’m pretty sure that the refund window isn’t primarily intended to create an ad-hoc demo of games, but to let you return a game that doesn’t function correctly on your system.

Game developers who do want to create a demo can (though I’ll admit that it’s a less-common route than one might expect).

store.steampowered.com/demos/

I usually read review content, maybe watch a YouTube video of someone playing the game if I want to see gameplay.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KePY3IfxqOQ

TyrianMollusk,
@TyrianMollusk@lemm.ee avatar

I’ve seen many devs cite the refund window as why they don’t need to bother maintaining a demo. They’re wrong about not needing a proper demo, but people definitely do treat the refund window as a demo phase, not merely a technical test.

MajesticElevator,

Cracked versions are the real demo 😌

qevlarr, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Unreal Tournament series

UE4 movement was buttery smooth

3dmvr,

I really am dissapointed in current gaming, thought wed have a game in each genre that supported custom content, like ue would let ppl make their own maps/weapons, etc. everquest landmark for mmo worlds, etc.

3dmvr,

maybe with desktop tools being so fleshed out well see better in game tools for creation, tho now I use blender and want more games to support mods and custom content.

abigscaryhobo,

Garry’s mod/source games is about the closest we have to that. Or i guess Roblox too…?

3dmvr,

s@ndbox but it really depends how it goes, they are leaning more towards being a game engine than something like gmod where you can bring stuff over from one world to another, like scifi element hoverboards, etc. to a fantasy world and vice versa.

blackbelt352, do games w HELP! Im looking for a game like CIV 6 where the point is to go to war

Domination victory is literally one of the victoru conditions of Civ 6. You’re allowed to go full steamroll and go to war with everyone. Some of the civs are focused on going to war and expanding quickly through warfare like the Aztecs. Just don’t be surprised when you keep attacking other civs and the other players use the other diplomatic strategies to their advantage.

I’m Civ it’s also important to know how the other players perceive you and how to manipulate that perception to your advantage. Manufacture Casus Belli, poke and prod until others make the first attack and you “defend” yourself by taking their cities. You’ll be less of a warmonger.

UnrefinedChihuahua, do games w What is the best Sea based game out there in your opinion?

I’m here for Sea of Thieves, so much fun.

simple,

Same, it’s a lot of fun with friends. They also added peaceful servers where you can’t PvP a while back so you can fish in peace.

Fair warning though: This game needs to be played with friends, it can be tedious with randoms that barely communicate and disconnect whenever they feel like it.

Novamdomum,
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Ooh I didn't know about the peaceful servers. Might have to revisit that soon :)

simple,

They HEAVILY reduce the amount of rewards you get though, so if you actually want gold then it’s not worth playing compared to PvP servers.

Zahille7,

But if you don’t want the hassle of dealing with other players and still want full rewards, you could do all your questing over in that volcanic biome on the map.

At least back when I played that was the relatively safest area for me.

Dragomus,

Sea Of Thieves has amazing ocean effects. The fog sometimes also is very atmospheric with how it seems to occlude sounds etc.

SGforce, do gaming w What's a good slow paced shooter game?

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