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Stillhart, do gaming w Which Dragon Age games are worth playing?

Origins is definitely the best and the closest to that classic Bioware feel you like.

DA2 was polarizing but I enjoyed it. Very different from the first mechanically. Worth playing tho, IMHO.

DA:I was… not fun for me. I feel like they tried to modernize the formula and added all the worst parts of modern (at the time) games, namely HUGE time sinks for no reason because it’s not a fucking MMORPG that makes money by the hour. /deep breath Sorry, I am still a little bitter at how that game turned out. Anyways, probably worth checking out, maybe you will feel differently. But it wasn’t for me.

sgriff,

Dragon age 2 was insanely fun to me, i definitely played it more than origins. (Im aware I’m not in the majority with that) I thought the combat was so fun and i loved doing different play throughs with different builds in that game

Skray,
@Skray@kbin.social avatar

2 definitely shows the issue of EA wanting to push the game out in 1.5 years. Many cut corners and a lack of assets with the repetitive maps.
I think it's the weakest entry in the Dragon Age series, and a lot of it's negative reception was because it failed to live up to expectations of DAO.

If Dragon Age 2 wasn't a Dragon Age game, it wouldn't have gotten the poor reviews it got. As a standalone game it's actually not bad.

I always recommend playing it, as it directly leads into the story of Inquisition and it has some great characters in it.

FlashMobOfOne, (edited )
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DA2 was polarizing but I enjoyed it.

The writing was pretty good. Just gets boring playing literally the same ten maps over, and over, and over, and over again.

CoffeeMan,

DA2 takes a different take for me when I realized that you’re playing through Varric’s retelling of the story. It kinda explains why people are falling out of the sky to join the battle and other inconsistencies.

beetelier,

This gets often overlooked, glad it got brought up. The entire game is an exercise in unreliable narration. Gives you a very different lens to experience the game through.

Dee_Imaginarium, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?
@Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org avatar

I want Star Citizen… The Star Citizen that was promised in the Kickstarter… Still waiting.

termus, do gaming w are there small sized mmorpg's?
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Ultima Online is a 25 year old MMO that still has the original servers running. The install is about 3GB and can run on any PC from the last 20 years. For the official servers, the player base is largest on Atlantic and you can sign up for a free Endless Journey account. PVP is only allowed in certain zones.

There are many many player run servers that fit a lot of play styles. The most populated being Outlands. That is where I mainly play as it is by far the most populated UO server, 2.5k-3k people on usually. Just beware, outside of the starting zone and towns, it is open PVP almost everywhere.

City of Heroes now has player run servers. The install is around 5GB. Homecoming is the most populated, with a lot of added content. Rebirth is less populated but tries to be the closest experience to the official servers.

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Likewise, Everquest is still running, including some semi-official EQ-classic servers. Server population might be measured in hundreds – a far cry from the 500k peak in 2002.

58008, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact
@58008@lemmy.world avatar

“Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the children devs!?”

The last refuge of a dying argument 😴

Cornelius_Wangenheim,

The devs would probably prefer if their work for several years wasn’t thrown in the trash. It’s the publishers and suits killing games.

webghost0101, do gaming w Don't touch me with that stuff

They know to never use from your own supply. They know the downsides and admit openly that organics remain more reliable.

The one ripper i recall that did have chrome only did because she was attacked by a customer who chopped of her arm.

youngalfred, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

Choice to do what?

These are their two points:

Private servers are not always a viable alternative option for players as the protections we put in place to secure players’ data, remove illegal content, and combat unsafe community content would not exist and would leave rights holders liable. In addition, many titles are designed from the ground-up to be online-only; in effect, these proposals would curtail developer choice by making these video games prohibitively expensive to create.

I feel like the first is fair enough at the moment, but with accompanying laws it could be resolved. Eg once a developer enacts an end of life plan, their legal culpability is removed. Plus give the right tools for moderation and the community can take care of it.

Second is just a cop out I think. “Many titles are designed from the ground up to be online only” - that’s the whole point. It’s not retroactive, so you don’t need to redesign an existing game. But going forward you would need to plan for the eventual end of life. Developers have chimed in that it can be done.

nous,

once a developer enacts an end of life plan, their legal culpability is removed What legal culpability? If you are not hosting anything then you wont be liable for anything. It is not like if you create a painting and someone defaces it with something that you become liable for that… That would be insane.

vodka, do games w Thank you, Thor! 🥳

Can’t wait for him to see this and claim it was his plan the entire time

lemmy12369,

Only way to get around it…

Nilz,

So that’s why he worked at Blizzard for 7 years and keeps bringing it up.

DogWater,

Full ambercrombie & Fitch mode

NaibofTabr, do games w What are your favourite single-player games without much fluff, grinding or difficulty spikes?

Live for the adventure, not the grind:

Journey (if you play one game on this list it should be this one)

Far: Lone Sails and the sequel Changing Tides

Jazzpunk

Master Reboot

Manifold Garden

Sable

Fract OSC

Chants of Sennar

The Red Strings Club

The Stanley Parable

Rime

Superliminal

Naissancee

Soul Axiom

Contrast

Flagstaff, (edited )
@Flagstaff@programming.dev avatar

Sable is on a giveaway this week by Epic Games. Use the free-&-open-source Heroic Games Launcher to play it without having to download their platform.

I got bored by FAR’s puzzles and didn’t finish it but I guess I should persist, huh?

NaibofTabr,

I really enjoyed both Far games. I never felt like any of the puzzles were large enough to get tedious. When I finished Lone Sails I just wished there had been a longer section of driving the ship… it kind of felt like you never got to really go before there was some interruption that you had to stop and get out for.

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Jazzpunk is not a game I’ve heard of in a long time, great silly surrealism

Manifold garden is great too

NaibofTabr,

Jazzpunk was one of those games that left me wishing there was more of it.

Manifold Garden is just such a perfectly executed atmosphere, it’s hard to do it justice with description - like walking around inside an Escher drawing.

Arkhive,

Red Strings Club!!! Woah!! Been a minute since I thought about that game. Very, VERY, good. Sort of a precursor to Potion Craft in a way, that really didn’t over stay its welcome. The pacing was great, difficulty curve was great, and it had a distinctly finite story that still left you satisfied. I’ve bounced off potion craft a few times because at a point the scale, and subsequent grind, is a bit much for me. Red Strings Club nails the middle ground with good increasing complexity without becoming a chore.

NaibofTabr,

I totally agree on the pacing. The Red Strings Club is a masterclass of storytelling in a video game format.

I think it’s hard to describe as a game to gamers… the actual gameplay is pretty vague, the various minigame activities are almost inconsequential, but taken as a whole it’s a perfect experience.

Magnus, do games w Signatures skyrocket for **Stop Killing Games** campaign after big youtubers take up the cause, resulting in 100k signatures in 48 hours. (Details on how to help in text body of post)

Signed the UK parliament one, sadly drowning in those Brexit benefits when it comes to the other.

ProdigalFrog,

Thank you for your help! :D

missingno, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I have a lot of childhood nostalgia for Donkey Kong 64. If you were a kid who could only get a new game every few months or so, this giant behemoth of a game will last a long time.

But it undeniably is a bloated clusterfuck, the internet is not wrong in hindsight.

Next thing that comes to mind for me is the GBA port of Tales of Phantasia. Symphonia was a huge part of my adolescent years, and as soon as I heard this was getting a GBA remake I was all over it. Loved it, and didn't hear until much later that GBA is apparently considered the worst version of the game. If PSP ever gets translated, I'd love to see what I missed out on...

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

DK64 for me too. I played the shit out of it for probably a solid 6 months to a year and loved it but it has no doubt aged badly.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Honestly the collectathon genre as a whole doesn’t hold up much these days. A few modern games pull it off here and there, but going back and trying to play any of the classic Rare titles feels like a slog.

Loved all those games as a kid, and they did a ton to shape the industry, but they don’t really hold up.

Rai,

hbomberguy did a 50+ hour 101% nightmare stream for trans charity a while back and I watched the whole thing. I would not subject myself to playing that game but damn it was interesting to see.

Crankenstein,

Bro what people didn’t like DK64? I spent a large chunk of my childhood getting 100% in that game. Lanky Kong was my boy.

JackbyDev,

I wonder if a fan mod of DK64 where the bananas aren’t colored would fix many of the problems. I feel like that one small change might fix a lot of complaints. I haven’t played it though.

Denjin,

There’s a ROM hack that let’s you swap characters with a button press rather than trek through the level to find a swap barrel and then trek back again, and do that again and again for coins, bananas, etc.

Small change that has a big impact on the replayability.

www.romhacking.net/hacks/4961/

JackbyDev,

If I ever do a DK64 playthrough I’ll check this out.

who, do games w Why are people gurgling the switch 2 so hard?

You know that it’s common for companies to pay influencers and publications for favorable publicity, right?

SolidShake,

I’m not talking about streamers and big YouTube channels.

who, (edited )

The practice extends beyond those. Lemmy is not immune, for example.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

This community looks relevant in principle, although most of the posts right now are about political astroturfing (which is not the only kind):

!fediverse_vs_disinfo

missingno, do games w Why do people like Mario Kart?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Are you really unable to understand why other people enjoy things? Is this a serious question?

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

I can understand why, but I wanted to hear their reasons for it.

I guess you’re just upset because someone was critical of something you like. It’s okay, I see it all the time.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you must know, I'm actually not a Mario Kart fan, played the older ones but haven't touched the series since DS. More of a Kirby Air Ride and F-Zero GX kinda guy. But I can still understand the appeal well enough to not post this kind of thinly veiled "I'm mad that other people like something I don't" thread.

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

Now you’re projecting.

I’m just going to ignore you.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Projection is when you said "I guess you're just upset because someone was critical of something you like."

Elevator7009, (edited )

I think people are very much taking this less as an “I’m curious, why do people find this fun? I want to understand” post, and more of a condescending “I think it’s not fun because I have taste and am presuming people who think it is fun do not until proven otherwise, now prove me otherwise” post. Some people, including me until I saw these comments, were seeing your post body that tells us why you don’t like the game less as sharing your own perspective and wanting someone to show you a bright side, and more as trying to denigrate people who see it as fun. I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you can reread your post body and see how people might interpret a far less curious, far more judgmental tone from it.

To actually answer your question: I played Mario Kart Wii mostly as kid against the computer and other people, and a few times as an adult against other people. I like to think I was good at the game, that skill mattered and it wasn’t random and unfair. I won almost every time both against the computer, and against other humans. So I just didn’t perceive the game as “mostly random and unfair.” (Although now that I think of it, when I had the option I’d usually switch all items to Strategic against the computer, eliminating a lot of the catch-up items, so perhaps I did perceive it initially and just removed it from my experience to the point I don’t remember it? Although when I played against other humans it was usually on their console at their place with their settings, which probably didn’t have it set to Strategic.) The catch-up mechanics could sink me if I made a mistake, but if I drove well the whole course I almost always came out in front. Perhaps you’re thinking of later editions that I never played and have no opinion of, or the computer plays badly and the people I played against were bad at the game?

katze,

I can understand why, but I wanted to hear their reasons for it.

You make it sound like people make a pros and cons list before deciding whether to like something or not. We don’t choose what to like. People clearly have fun playing Mario Kart, that’s it.

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

It’s okay, I see it all the time.

I’m going to block you now. Real sick of people who can’t take criticism of the things they like.

katze,

What? 🤣 Last time I played a Nintendo game was probably in 1995 on a Chinese clone of NES (or SNES, no idea).

Coelacanth, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

We’ll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It’s definitely one of the best games I’ve ever played, and I’ve played a lot of games. It’s not perfect, but it’s close enough in all the parts that actually matter.

Otherwise there’s your usual suspects:

  • Disco Elysium
  • Portal
  • Half-Life 2
  • Bioshock 1
  • Final Fantasy VI
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Zelda: Ocarina of Time
  • The Last of Us
  • Baldur’s Gate 2
puia,

I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.

puia,

I must say you are really getting me hyped to play this game. Bgs3 was a masterpiece, and i also love games like Persona so i am really excited to try a French jrpg like Clair Obscur

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Props for DE being at the top of your list.

iAmTheTot, (edited ) do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

None. There’s no such thing as an objective master piece. Games are art which is, by definition, subjective.

Edited to add, well this was way more controversial than I thought it would be.

sugar_in_your_tea,

“Masterpiece” comes from the art world, and there are absolutely works everyone seems to agree qualify, such as:

  • The Mona Lisa
  • David statue
  • David Copperfield by Charles Dickens

It’s usually the best work by an artist, or at least the one that got them their recognition, and it stands out among other works in the field.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s the one that got them their recognition, it’s little more than arbitrary; luck, place and time; things that don’t have to do with how good the work is. Some “masterpieces” weren’t considered such until they were exposed to people over and over again, like The Mona Lisa at the Louvre or It’s a Wonderful Life on TBS. I’d have a hard time calling a number of games masterpieces that I didn’t care for, because this isn’t objective.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

A masterpiece could just refer to a piece of art from a master. It could refer to the quality of an engineering project, or the skill involved in the work’s creation. Are these not objective qualities?

I don’t really think the Mona Lisa is a great image, personally (it’s a boring portrait), but I can still recognize that it was masterfully done.

Katana314,

This gets trickier with games, because an experienced game designer can, for instance, look at the UI design and graphics programming of a Ubisoft open world slopfest, and say those parts were masterfully done (even if the overall game isn’t so fun). And, even the best of video games have bits of them that weren’t as good.

Krauerking,

Right… So what game gets the most of those bits the most right?

That’s how you start to separate out the best. Not that complex.

LandedGentry, (edited )

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  • seathru,
    @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I think the word you are looking for is pedant.

    Better vocabulary will help get your point across better. Without also sounding like an edgy atheist teen.

    Krudler,

    It’s low-grade trolling, chill bro. They’re not serious.

    ms_lane,

    Games are not Art, they are Games.

    Videogames can also be art, but they are also games and ‘games’ (note: not ‘videogames’) are not art.

    Screen_Shatter, do games w Wait, that game is still playable online?

    Titanfall 2 servers were brought back online after being down for awhile.

    I still play Starcraft 2 occasionally.

    earned_myself_a_gin,

    Is there any community or a different set of servers to point to? Titanfall 2 was my favorite game before the DDoSes, and when I’ve periodically checked you can try matchmaking but there’s nobody left to play with anymore. Is there a Discord or another set of servers or something?

    Screen_Shatter,

    I’m actually not sure, its my kid who plays. He was very excited and playing on xbox. I thought it was cool and unexpected but I guess maybe it died back down again.

    Bogusmcfakester,

    On pc there’s a thing called the Northstar client that was pretty active during the ddos times

    Varying9125,

    I just found out about north star and looked into buying TF2, its $30 on steam! wtf I remember seeing it for like $3 before

    pedro,

    You can get EA keys dirt cheap on the grey market. Alternatively just wait for a sale and it will be a few quid on steam

    IronKrill,
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    It’s been on steep discount often, as recently as May 1st. Just gotta wait for the sale, it’ll go on again. isthereanydeal.com/game/…/history/

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