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themoonisacheese, do games w Any good games that break the mold
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

I heard good word about Paradise Killer, in which you’re also a detective and must figure out the truth

The outer wilds is amazing. You should play it.

B0NK3RS, do games w Any good games that break the mold
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

The Long Dark

Survival game set in the cold Canadian wilderness. Most “survival” games are actually just boring crafting games but TLD is very different for me as it is mostly about exploring in the freezing cold with natural predators around to keep you on edge.

Eyck_of_denesle, do games w Any good games that break the mold

I love Sam and Max

smeg, do games w What's your favorite controller?

N64 controller. Obviously it wasn’t exactly great to use, but its completely unique look is so iconic and that makes it my fave.

potentiallynotfelix,

I grew up with a Wii, and never held an n64 controller, so I always will wonder: How do you hold those? Do you hold it like a regular controller and then reach your thumb out to the joystick in the middle, or do you hold the middle grip and then one of the other outer ones, and have to reach as well? Is it subjective?

dwindling7373,

So, there’s more than one answer. When it came out the idea was, and it’s debatable how much Nintendo used this concept as a marketing tool or with a design in their head, tha the controller allowed flexibility. For different games, different sections or different preferences, you could hold the two outer handles, and get a basic SNES type thing, or you could hold the mid and either one of the sides.

I feel part of it was a bit of mistrust, maybe from some early testing or internal, about the accuracy or the familiarity of users with the joystick, the design allows people to opt into it or go for the tradizional buttons.

I recall some weird stuff was supposed to be meant for the full left side combo, so directional buttons + analog stick. That was a bit of a far reach…

So beside all the intentions, 99% of the games were played with your left hand on the middle handle and the right hand on the righ handle. Consider there’s a very comfy trigger button below the middle handle that is mirrored or mirrors the left shoulder button.

loo, do games w Any good games that break the mold
@loo@lemmy.world avatar

Not a puzzle game, but Noita throws you right in without any explanation or tutorial. Everything is trial and error to the point where people complain that you can’t figure things out without the wiki. Love the game though, one of the most unique games I know.

The Souls games never really held your hand either.

Hollow Knight, The Binding of Isaac and Elite Dangerous are other games I can think of that want you to figure things out.

leaky_shower_thought, do games w Any good games that break the mold

chronoark lets you die and counts your deaths for you.

anything agatha christie/ hercule poirot is light detective work (good for kids and or newbies) with optional handholding

i remember there’s some good mystery modules with neverwinter nights

morrowind quests don’t coddle at all. they all look like journal entries.

RangerJosie, do games w What's your favorite controller?
@RangerJosie@lemmy.world avatar

PS2. Before all the unnecessary extra expense got added in.

frazorth,

I’m not sure what you are referring to here. The Dual Shock 2 was the standard PS2 controller throughout its lifetime.

Do you mean the OG PlayStation, which had the standard controller, then the dual analogue stick, and finally the Dual Shock with the two analogue sticks plus rumble?

I liked the analogue sticks, loved Katamari. Rumble didn’t add enough.

RangerJosie,
@RangerJosie@lemmy.world avatar

I like the sticks and rumble. By extra stuff I meant like haptic triggers and stuff like that in the newest controllers.

The old standard Playstation controller. With sticks and rumble.

I own a Series S. And I’ve been looking for a PS pattern Xbox controller forever. But I’ve never found one.

frazorth,

Oh gotcha. You mean before it went Dual Shock 3? Sorry I thought you were referring to the multiple iterations the PS1 had.

Advantage over Dual Shock 2 was that it was wireless, and I do appreciate that, but I completely agree that PlayStation layout is great.

I do like the Dual Shock 4 when on the computer, as the little touchpad on the front helps with SteamOS when dealing with shitty interfaces for 3rd Party Launchers that demand a mouse and keyboard.

If I didn’t encounter them occasionally then Dual Shock 3 all the way as I dont normally need any of the other “features”.

frazorth,

Does the Series S support USB controllers? Could you not use one of those knock off USB PS controllers?

pruwybn, (edited ) do games w Any good games that break the mold
@pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s hard to beat Obra Dinn, but The Witness is another of my favorite puzzle games.

Edit: “hard to beat” meaning it’s a good game, not that it’s difficult (although it is in fact pretty difficult).

DarkThoughts, do gaming w I typically avoid online games but this is why I'm fine with it in Elden Ring

The main purpose of the online feature is so that other people can invade your games to gank you. For me that's the epitome of games to avoid.

ShinkanTrain,

I think people straight up can’t invade you in ER if you aren’t either doing multiplayer or used the “I want invaders” item.

entropicdrift,
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Yeah, no. The main point of the multi-player is to get help from allies. It’s only if you get that help that anyone can invade your game in Elden Ring

Sas,

Literally not, how Elden Ring multiplayer works.

  1. You can’t invade solo host unless they specifically use an item for it
  2. If you are coop you open yourself up for invasions and since a session has a 4 player limit you’re always either in the majority (aka ganking) or on even grounds if you decide to only summon 1 friend and let the invader live long enough for another to show up. If you invade you are pretty much always going to be in a 1v3 situation.
zer0bitz, do games w What's your favorite controller?

Nvidia Shield controller, 2015 version.

MudMan, do games w What's your favorite controller?

Oh, how long do you have.

First of all, favorite for what? For accesibility reasons if it's not a dual stick game I am defaulting to a fightbox-type device these days. I favor a WASD configuration, rather than a thumb-for-up configuration and I currently favor a tiny, minimalist haute board box with cherry switches (blue for buttons, greys for WASD). It's great, it lies on my desktop and it causes minimal strain even in high APM games.

For dual stick stuff, it again depends. Is this a shooter where aiming is a factor? Because then I'm gonna want some gyro. The DualSense is amazing to hold, just bonkers build quality. It is heavy and ugly as sin, though. It also doesn't work perfectly with every PC game, so it feels like a hassle to use it as my default. There's the KK3, which has gyro in Switch mode and seems to be less fussy than the DualSense. Plus they are trying to sell their hall effect sticks to third parties, so those are very smooth. It is a jack of all trades, though, and I actively hate KK's dumb extra button configuration, with start and select all the way at the top, I keep pressing the screenshot buttons by accident.

If there's no twitch aiming, and thus no major need for gyro, Victrix's Pro BFG is fun. It has modular design where you can put the dpad on either location. The dpad isn't great, but hey, the fightbox's there for that. It does have a six button configuration, too, if you're a controller fighting game guy. The best feature, though? Replaceable eight-way gates for the sticks, Gamecube-style. If you're a Smash guy or emulating Gamecube it's such a no-brainer high end replacement.

But honestly? Honestly?

The JoyCon.

I know people hate the JoyCon, but the idea of a split controller is amazing to me, and everybody else who has tried to do it, Lenovo Legion Go included, gets it wrong. The big handles aren't the answer without a middle segment to hold the controllers. The two little boards are fantastic for 3D action games, the amount of tech in such a small frame is astounding and the button-based dpad is so good I'm using fightboxes on the regular now. It's a shame there are some reliability issues, but I would buy a device just like it for PC tomorrow if they could sort out connectivity reliably.

brsrklf,

Connectivity is just one of many problems with joycons.

The shitty sticks that may or may not drift after a dozen of hours and the faulty rail cable that disconnects the SL/ SR buttons are worse.

MudMan,

I don't know that I have used the SL/SR buttons on my Joycons once in years, so I don't know that is a priority for me.

Drift is a problem, but I've had it more on PS5 controllers, frankly. I do think that at least some portion of drift issues are actually connectivity. The Switch fills in connectivity gaps with the last remembered input and if you have a weak signal that sometimes manifests as the stick being "stuck" off center.

I do think Nintendo should have gone for a slightly bigger battery and a more powerful antenna, although I see why they didn't want to. Still, as far as form factor and usability goes, those things are the best controller this generation, if not ever.

potentiallynotfelix,

I like the joycon but I don’t like how easy it gets drift… Also not a big fan of how annoying it is to connect to computers.

JDPoZ, do games w What's your favorite controller?
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

There is no perfect controller…

…But I do have a list of features I would want my perfect controller to have based off all the controllers that have ever been made :

  • TMR joystick modules (successor to Hall effect sticks)
  • adjustable tension springs and locking mechanism for varied stick cap types (Xbox Elite series 2 does most of this but uses magnetic caps which would interfere with the TMR sticks so ball bearing connections or other option would be preferable)
  • 6 DOF / gyro sensors + infrared camera (Wii Motion Plus)
  • Adaptive haptic triggers (PS5) which can be toggled to hair trigger mode via switches (Xbox Elite series 2)
  • multi-touchpad on face (PS5)
  • analog face buttons (DualShock 2 controller had this but only a few games utilized this… the best example was the PS2 era Metal Gear Solid games)
  • customizable “per-button” color assignment / micro OLED or e-ink screens so button graphics can be swapped (PBTails new controller does the per button RGB color assignment)
  • USB-C / 4 wired connectivity + charging
  • baseplate contact-charging (PS5 controller has these so you can set them on charging docks)
  • hot swappable battery pack + AA battery holder pack or ability to not have a battery on at all when connected via USB-C (Xbox 360 controller had this)
  • swappable non-magnetic Zinc-alloy faceplates (PBTails new controller has these)
  • removable back triggers with dedicated button assignments (like the Steam Deck’s L4/5 and R4/5 buttons; not just cloned face buttons like Sony and XBox do)
  • integrated microphone with hardware toggle (PS5)
  • proper “separate keys” d-pad… not the mushy type
  • touch-sensitive surfaces for every button and stick (Meta / Oculus Quest controllers do this)
  • per-finger-joint touch sensitive grips for each finger segment (Valve’s VR controllers did this)
  • the ability to separate the halves of the controller so that each hand could hold one half independently and have them track similar to most standard VR controllers (think combining the switch controllers and Quest controllers)
  • NFC communication (Amiibo-stuff for example)

If any single controller did even half of this, they’d easily be the GOAT.

potentiallynotfelix,

That’d be the best controller, but probably like 500 dollars lol

JDPoZ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

If it had all those features and was made with some real quality parts, I would gladly pay 500 bucks for it.

potentiallynotfelix,

The last thing it would need would be cross-console compatibility. That might make it worth it.

snausagesinablanket, do games w Any good games that break the mold
@snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world avatar

Hide the sausage.

theskyisfalling, do games w Any good games that break the mold

I really enjoyed “Heading Out” this year which I felt was something a bit different and fresher feeling. Might be worth checking out!

spedswir, do games w Any good games that break the mold

The witness is a really interesting puzzle game that can be had for not that much.

Or if you are looking for something more actiony then I would recommend remnant: from the ashes or remnant 2. Described as souls like with guns, but they really change up the formula I found with semi random worlds and bosses.

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