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ProdigalFrog, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?

If you play the OG deus ex, I highly recommend modding it with the revision overhaul, or GMDX. It’s very clunky without one.

If you like stealth games, I’d recommend the first two thief games (with fan patches to run well on modern systems).

neon_nova,

Thanks! I’ll do that. Even though I grew up with these old games, I’m spoiled by new ones.

M137, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

than*

ironhydroxide, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing

Then the artifact what?

vxx, do games w The signatures are still coming and it's already making an impact

It needs way more people, because I guess a lot of people from all over the world used VPNs to sign the petition and will get nullified.

So if you planned to do it, don’t, you will hurt your goals more than you’re doing an good.

randombullet, do gaming w I have about 55 hours of flights coming up. I’m thinking about the deus ex collection. Any thoughts?

If you want to be very sad or maybe inspired, spiritfarer was excellent. The two Oris are great time sinks. Horizon Zero Dawn ran fine on my deck but chews battery life.

errer, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing

Is this the plot of the new Jurassic World movie?

jaschen306,

Lara Croft was still better than Rebirth.

Blackmist,

It can’t be worse than those Chris Pratt ones, can it?

jaschen306,

I watched it. It’s worse. There were too many side stories and none of them really fit together.

Blackmist,

It’s got Gareth Edwards on board at least. I’ll probably give it a watch at some point just for that. Plus action hero Chris Pratt is the worst Chris Pratt. I liked him better when he was fat.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone more out of their depth than Colin Trevorrow. A real shame that, because I actually enjoyed Safety Not Guaranteed.

vala, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

Honestly who cares. Stop buying AAA slop and support indies.

WorldsDumbestMan,

Only open-sourced, homebrewed, and single-person is what we need!

alsimoneau,

10 people or less.

Captain of Industry is a gem with a 4 person team Risk of Rain was 2, expanded to 3

That’s still at a human scale.

Duamerthrax,

Hedon, Cultic, Zortch I think were all solo devs.

Jeffool, (edited ) do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales
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Game Pass obviously and absolutely affects game sales. At the same time this conversation only happens because we’re comparing “the industry with Game Pass” to “games at face value”. That second one only lasted 10-15-ish years. Before that, there was “the industry with game rentals”. Blockbuster was also absolutely eating up some sales.

But game rentals were often seen as a “try before you buy” case to many, as you may want to play a game more than 3-5 days. So maybe the answer is don’t lease your game to Game Pass for a year at a time. Just offer it for a month or three. (Also make an easy way for the non-technical to export/import saves.) This also would let Microsoft make more deals for more games in their rotation. Seems like a shorter time helps everyone out.

sp3ctr4l,

Yeah, it used to be quite common for PC gaming magazines to include a demo disk, basically, here’s the game and the first level or two, often you could fit a couple game’s demo versions on one cd.

GamesPass could easily do something like uh… hey, this game here, you can play for 2 or 5 or 10 hours, and then if you want more, you can buy it with… I dunno, a 1/4 to 1/3 discount if you’re subbed to GamesPass, and you’ve got the playtime.

tobz619,

Yeah, honestly, what was wrong with games releasing Demos?

I think a lot of games would do well if they also bundled limited demos of other games with them too like back in the old days.

Sidhean, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

backlog gamepass would be hype. Like, this whole thing is shit and old game should probably cycle into the public domain; if a corp put work into keeping old games playable, how cool would that be?

ICastFist,
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“But if you offer all these old games to play, why would anyone bother buying the new stuff?” - some corpo director

sp3ctr4l, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

Yet another example of:

C Suite / Upper Management doesn’t listen when a seasoned software engineer of some kind points out an extremely obvious medium/long-run problem with the business model they’re being asked to either functionally invent, or massively contribute to.

Croquette,

The goal is to lose money to capture the market and once it is done, to recoup their loss and bleed the market dry.

sp3ctr4l,

Yes, but if they can’t actually pull off the last part… uh… that doesn’t end well.

baatliwala, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

Game pass is awesome. Played a fuck ton of games at that price. Hope it stays forever, especially with that stacking model lol.

EndlessNightmare,

Hope it stays forever

Oh boy, have I got some news for you

baatliwala,

I know, I know lmfao. But that doesn’t mean I’m not going to leach the hell out of this until it goes away.

sp3ctr4l, (edited )

Hey, uh, is Uber still cheaper than a taxi?

Oh, no, it isn’t, and also taxis, largely don’t exist anymore, and also public transit (the much cheaper to the ‘consumer’ option) is now 10 to 15 years behind where it should be.

Roughly the same business model there.

You’re trading short term low cost and convenience and broad array of choices for long term higher prices and the broad stagnation/destruction of the entire industry, fucking over all the people who work in said industry.

baatliwala, (edited )

You definitely have a point… if US was the only country in the world and Uber did not provide a much better service than our local taxis. I mean yeah the local ones are cheaper but considering overall service, fuck no.

For me, one of the major advantages of Game Pass is publishers are absolutely refusing to put local regional pricing nowadays. Games at 60$+ cannot be bought by anyone with middle class salaries. Now with push to 70-80 usd+ for AAA, even AA games getting to 60$ it is impossible to buy in my country.

So why should I get a single game at those prices when I can get few hundred at similar pricing? It’s MSs problem that they are willing to put their games day 1 on GP not mine. I don’t care whether games are getting “devalued” or whatever, I’m simply getting what I paid for.

Also, people do tend to buy games standalone and I really can’t see that going away honestly. I can’t see games ever going subscription only or anything like that.

sp3ctr4l, (edited )

You make good points, my view is obviously America centric.

As I literally used to work for MSFT, in various parts of their city sized corporate HQ outside of Seattle, and a few ‘smaller’, though still massive by the standards of any non megacorp, ‘satellite’ campuses in other parts of the broader Seattle area.

I completely agree that refusal to do reasonable location specific pricing is a huge problem, and I’d say that basically stems from MSFT being astoundingly myopic, to the point of the management culture being cult-like.

Perhaps a sort of saving grace for international customers is that uh, the US dollar is currently crashing against basically every other currency?

Or perhaps that is an actual cause of why AAA game prices go up in USD: MSFTs costs are primarily in USD, so they figure out a way to smudge costs over the whole system in a way that trickles up to them in USD, by using their influence to functionally make everything else somewhat subsidize their attempt to grow or maintain market share.

MSFT gaming seems to be transitioning to pretty much abandoning being a ‘console maker’, and moving toward ‘we are an uber publisher’.

But anyway… I get that from the consumer perspective, yes, it makes sense to go with GamesPass…

The problem is that from a business perspective, what this does is destroy the economics of actually making a game.

It reduces sales, which reduces profit, which means now game publishers force game studios to cut costs, so they fire half their staff or reassign them, which destroys all the undocumented knowledge of the game studio, and then they are replaced with cheaper per hour paid contractors who don’t know that information, which results in sloppier, buggier games that ironically always go overbudget, overschedule, and don’t sell as well.

Maybe think if it as an infrasctucture style situation, with game devs as the road maintenance crews, and consumers of games as car drivers:

If you skimp on road maintenance, and then also make everyone drive much much more, by making public transit very expensive/shitty, and cars are now all a cheap personal rental service…

… eventually the roads give out, pot holes everywhere, bridges falling apart… and the entire system grinds to a halt rather rapidly, because now, a decade later, there aren’t any more talented road maintenance crews, they all quit from the shit wages and shit working conditions, their specialized vehicles sre in disrepair, and there is also not enough money to hire and train a massive new workforce to fix all the roads.

rustydrd, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

For a regular person, maybe, but archeologists deal with dinosaur stuff all the time.

prole,

Bro, she had to kill live dinosaurs underground lol… We’re not talking bones or fossils here.

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

The objects uncovered by archeologists are sometimes remarkably well-preserved. A joyous event for every scientist!

Klear,

Dinosaurs belong in a museum!

RightHandOfIkaros, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing

Fake! You don’t get the shotgun until two levels later!

taiyang,

I know you’re joking but thanks to the Internet, I can confirm you do get the shotgun in the lost valley stage where dinosaurs are found. Now that I read up on it, the funniest part to me is that this meme might have actually chose a shotgun for that reason, especially since apparently you can totally take on a T-Rex with a shotgun.

Cavemanfreak,

this meme might have actually chose a shotgun for that reason

The meme chose the shotgun because that’s what is used in the original, from Hot Fuzz

dustyData,

Happy coincidences.

Also, this is how I find out my IP is also banned by know your meme.

marcos,

Why wouldn’t you be able to take on a T-Rex with a shotgun? It’s not like it has metal armor or lacks vital organs.

ryannathans,

We don’t know the density or hardness of trex flesh

Blackmist,

You can take it on with the basic pistols if you like. Plenty of spots to stand and shoot from safely.

pyre, do gaming w You would think the dinosaurs would have been a greater discovery then the artifact she is chasing

the first Lara was unapologetically an asshole. she lived in a mansion that most world leaders can’t have in their dreams. it’s not like she was stealing out of necessity. she had a fucking butler and still went out to disturb world heritage sites and steal or destroy everything in them. just for fun.

Vandals_handle,
@Vandals_handle@lemmy.world avatar

A farting butler that could be locked in the pantry

BigBananaDealer,

well she is the tomb raider

Blackmist,

Well she is British…

gonzo-rand19, do games w Founder of Arkane Studios: "I think Gamepass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade"; impacts sales

Wow, I totally missed the part where Microsoft had a gun to your head. Obviously sales go down when people don't have to buy the game to play it.

Why does Arkane suck so much now?

Plebcouncilman,

The funniest thing is that I can guarantee that whatever numbers Deathloop did they would have been much worse without Gamepass. Great game, but not the kind of game that can have mass appeal.

EnsignWashout,

Wow, I totally missed the part where Microsoft had a gun to your head.

Yes. Microsoft is good at hiding that part until it’s too late to do much about it.

sp3ctr4l,

Arkane sucks now because MSFT forced them to make the kind of game they did not have experience in making.

It’s like hiring a plumber to fix your electrical problems, hiring a car mechanic to diagnose your skin condition.

This is the whole thing of large publishers buying out successful dev teams, then mismanaging the fuck out of them, then destroying them, by firing 1/4 of the staff, throwing another 1/4 all around their various other studios, then hiring a bunch of contractors for the remaining dev team to babysit / onboard for 6 months before they know how to do anything useful…

…all for a game that’s either a castrated, mutated version of what the studio is known for, of course with latest trending corpo buzzwords a ‘core features’, or is just something wildly different from the studio’s previous work.

This happens with extreme regularity in the history of the video game industry.

Almost like being rich is more likely to indicate someone is a pompous buffoon that takes credit for other people’s successes and blames other people for their own failures, than it is to indicate they are some kind of Ayn Rand style entrepreneurial ubermensch, mr ‘gonzo- rand 19’.

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