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thatKamGuy, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes

Honest question, can anyone actually name a mainstream game where the main playable character is canonically and explicitly portrayed as gay?

I honestly can’t even think of one.

skisnow,

That’s what makes it even more pathetic, literally just being given the option of a gay subplot is having it shoved down their throats.

It’s so ridiculous that I question how many of the complaints we see online are even sincere, because surely people aren’t that dumb.

bluecat_OwO,
@bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world avatar

last of us?

darkpanda,

A bunch of characters in Apex Legends are canonically gay, trans, nonbinary, bi, pansexual, and Mirage. As a hero shooter, I guess there’s no real “main” character as such.

Aloy in Horizon is pretty much there if the Burning Shores DLC is any indication, although she seems to be a work in progress as a fully developed person.

Katana314,

I remember when dinoflask did YTPs of Overwatch’s lead designer, he poked fun at how, whenever the game needed a progressive image boost, they would retcon a character to be gay at random. He sentence-mixed something like “Our fans are always wondering who’s going to be gay on our next update.”

buttnugget,

Life is Strange series, Before the Storm. Not sure about the others.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

FFXIV. Like the whole raid tier for Gia and Rynne.

Notyou,

Mainstream? No, but my character decided he was gay in Disco Elysium.

prole,

Last of Us.

Life is Strange games.

scala,

Guild Wars 2

kazerniel,
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

I have an example that’s not gay, but trans - one of the two protagonists of Tell Me Why is a trans guy. (The other protagonist is his cisgender twin sister.)

Jomega,

Yuji Naka once said that NiGHTs gender was “up for interpretation”, which I think makes them nonbinary. That’s a pretty deep cut though.

Zahille7,

I remember reading about that because I went on a SA2 Chao Garden binge at one point and really got into trying to get a perfect flying one, I even went and played a bit of Into Dreams and read the wiki.

It’s because they’re “dream beings” and don’t really truly exist so they have no gender.

Katana314,

The MISSING: J J Macfield and the Island of Memories is a great one.

EndingPsyche. Though much of the dialog and written messages could lead you, like myself, to believe Macfield is a closeted lesbian undergoing community/family abuse for her quiet obsessions with a girl…it’s actually the less common form of LGBT. Macfield is a closet trans woman; much of the game’s horrific bodily mutilation themes take a stand-in for the dysphoria of being uncomfortable in her own masculine body. Of course, many of the same types who’d retch at a gay protagonist would throw up at the idea of being someone they didn’t identify with - which ironically is exactly what the game is teaching you.

MellowYellow13,

Yes, Life is Strange and The Last of Us. Pretty major games

michaelmrose,

In baldurs gate 3 people of the same gender certainly hit on you. Basically all romancible characters have player characters as their sexual orientation

DreamlandLividity,

I will ask a different question. In how many mainstream games can you actually confirm the main character is straight? Sure it may be more than the two examples of gay main characters, but still very few compared to where it just doesn’t come up.

skisnow, (edited )

Pretty much every GTA, Duke Nukem, the Witcher series, the God of War series, Yakuza, Unchartered, the Final Fantasy games, the Super Mario games (including Donkey Kong), even Pac-man… and that’s just the ones I’ve played. Then you’ve got virtually everything featuring Disney characters, Star Wars, as well as most other TV and movie tie-in games (of which there are many).

That’s the thing about defaultism, is you can play a straight character and not even remember you’ve done it because it’s just the default. I’ll bet you didn’t even notice that Pac-man was canonically straight, and yet if Ms. Pac-man was instead called “Pacman’s Husband Steve”, suddenly Pac-man’s one defining trait would be his sexuality.

If nothing else, you’ve provided an object lesson in just how true OP’s meme is.

DreamlandLividity,

I’ll bet you didn’t even notice that Pac-man was canonically straight

Well, I never played the official Pac-man so yeah, had no way to notice.

But while you do have a point about defaultism, I still believe large majority of games just doesn’t say one way or another, which is as it should be.

Soulg, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes

I dunno, most games the sexuality of the protagonist is completely irrelevant, and in those cases id tell both sides to stop whining or just play a different game

Smoogs,

This is a case of double standards.

If you weren’t willing to call it out before when it was heavily one sided, you shouldn’t be calling it out now.

You’re making it relevant by calling it out at the worst possible time.

Buddahriffic,

I’m not seeing the double standard there. Their overall stance sounds like they don’t gaf about anyone complaining about the sexuality of characters in video games because it’s often completely irrelevant to the game itself.

Or did I misunderstand and you mean that since they didn’t call out people complaining about a lack of gay representation they shouldn’t call out everyone complaining now that the complaints go both ways?

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not seeing the double standard there.

If you sleep through all the romantic subplots of the last 40 years of RPGs, but you wake up offended when you discover that Ellie and Riley Kiss at the end of The Last of Us: Left Behind, you’re working from a double standard.

you mean that since they didn’t call out people complaining about a lack of gay representation they shouldn’t call out everyone complaining now that the complaints go both ways?

Basically this, yes.

Buddahriffic,

It just wasn’t clear what the “this” in the comment I replied to was referring to, the OP or the comment it replied to. My own comment assumed it was saying thr comment it replied to had the double standard, but I see now that it might have been agreeing with that comment’s sentiment but saying the OP was about a double standard.

Bennyboybumberchums,

No one gave a fuck about Ellie and Riley kissing in 2014. It wasnt until after the culture wars started that it became a thing. Im still not even sure it is a thing, since everyone was saying that not liking part 2 was only because you dont like “the gayz”. Which is bullshit. The fans of the game, knew for 6 years that Ellie was gay, and that she was going to be the only playable character(which turned out to be bullshit), and everyone was still looking forward to it.

Then the leaks happened, and all of sudden half the fans are bigots…

Katana314,

I’m in a perspective of hoping for more romantic subplots of any kind. I never played through any generation of RPGs that made those popular, and when they were there, they were hastily written in, or just optional.

It’s why I’m excited for a certain JRPG remake that puts one such relation (between a guy and a girl) front and center, so much so that it becomes a driving element of the story. Those who know, know I suppose.

One thing that helps in its case is, it doesn’t advertise on the box “Romance 1-1000 characters!!” IMO, a good romantic plot sneaks up on you after you’ve invested in the characters.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It’s why I’m excited for a certain JRPG remake that puts one such relation (between a guy and a girl) front and center, so much so that it becomes a driving element of the story.

Are we talking about FF7 or something else?

IMO, a good romantic plot sneaks up on you after you’ve invested in the characters.

That’s good writing for you.

Katana314,

Honestly, I suppose FF7 is another great example, but I was thinking of the Trails in the Sky remake due out in a month or two.

Sorry if that’s a vague spoiler. It wasn’t even something I knew about the game playing through, but the slow-impact delivery of it worked fantastically.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I thought I was pretty up on my JRPGs, but I’ve literally never heard of this franchise before today.

Katana314,

Probably one of the best ads for it:
Reactions to the first game’s ending, with no spoilers

Soulg,

I’m calling it out right now because someone posted a meme and I’m replying to that post. I am not against more representation in video games, and I find people who whine about it to be annoying children.

state_electrician,

Also, nobody is forcing anybody to play a game. Every gamer already chooses to not play most of the games that exist. What’s one more?

kepix,

how dare you stating facts

IVII0, do zapytajszmer w Kofeina, kofeina, co zamiast niej

Bieganie. Albo jakakolwiek aktywność fizyczna. Miałem o tyle problem z kawą, że mi zaczęła rozwalać żołądek. I dowolnym innym źródłem kofeiny też, bo raczej pijałem yerba mate niż kawę, i mate w zasadzie działała jeszcze mocniej na rewolucje żołądkowe.

Nie ukrywam też, że od kilku miesięcy, albo w zasadzie półtora roku się po prostu spasłem - dostałem samochód służbowy i wiadomo, wszędzie samochodem, praca przy biurku 3/2 hybryda, więc samego chodzenia nie było wiele. Powiedziałem dość.

Wstaję o 6 i zanim zacznę myśleć, że mi się nie chce, że może jutro, że w sumie to trochę źle się czuje, a może będzie padać, a może za zimno, to padam na ziemię, 30 pompek, zakładam buty na nogi i wychodzę z domu. Czyli wychodzę jakoś 6:10.

Przebiegnięcie 2-3km w spokojnym-średnim tempie nie zajmuje więcej niż 20 minut. Brak czasu nie może być tu wymówką.

I nie potrzebuję żadnej kofeiny. Jak wracam, zimny prysznic żeby szybko się ochłodzić i jestem żywszy niż jakbym i pięć litrów kawy wypił.

callouscomic, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes

I want to be something else when I play games. I don’t understand this need to be the same thing I am every fucking day. Bring on other genders, sexes, races, species, colors, limbs, all of it. Let’s be different. It’s a fucking video game.

RisingSwell,

Given the choice I’m almost never playing a human. The fuck would I want to be me for lmao

Zahille7,

Argonian or Dark Elf, almost literally every time.

untorquer,

Get so weird slimey tentacled dozen limbed furry scaley shit going.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Looking at my game library, I seem to prefer blank slate player characters.

In Factorio, you play as a humanoid in a jumpsuit. In Satisfactory, you play as a humanoid in a jumpsuit. Infinifactory you play as a humanoid in a space suit. Antichamber you play as some being that can hold a gun-like tool. Buckshot Roulette you play as…something that can fire a shotgun. In all Half-Life and Portal games you play as a series of named but barely characterized people. Return of the Obra Dinn you play as an investigator, each time you start the game it randomly chooses a male or female voice for the player character. In Subnautica, you play as a stuffed wetsuit.

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been playing a lot of Halo 4 with friends lately this week. We’re working on Spartan Ops since it’s the last legendary achievement i have to do

Blackmist, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

Because fuck Konami.

Which I can sort of agree with.

filister, do games w Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

Eriksholm

It is a very beautiful isometric stealth game with a good story. I am playing the demo and I am already hooked to it. The demo is surprisingly long and enough to decide whether you are interested or not in this game.

BurgerBaron, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@BurgerBaron@piefed.social avatar

Never liked this lumping of everyone into oversimplified "gamers" as if it's anything different besides conservatives who happen to play games.

It is always conservatives. In any hobby.

thatKamGuy,

There’s a reason that particular cohort is mockingly referred to as capital-G Gamers^TM^.

Zahille7,

Exactly.

ano_ba_to,

Not just any hobby, any country. You think this country still uses fax machines and are a bunch of racists? You think that country doesn’t believe in vaccines and elected a moron? You think that country is committing a genocide?

Kolanaki, do games w Been getting more and more obsessed with supermarket simulators recently 🛒. These are my favourites, what are yours?
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I need to hop back into the OG (Just Supermarket Simulator) and check out the changes. They added crime and cleaning to it since I last played. Maybe even more.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

That looks pretty cool actually and I've just seen you can get self checkout tills too. Might have to give it a try. Not a big fan of them adding crime though. I used to run a shop a few years ago and crime was never a fun thing to have to deal with.

Tanoh,

You can turn off crime in the options menu.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

I just bought Supermarket Simulator and played it for 5 hours straight. It's so addictive!! 😆 That birdsong gets on your nerves after a while but I saw there's a mod that removes it so I'll try that tomorrow.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

Quick update apparently 5 days later, I've now played 55 hours of this... Such an addictive game! 😁

Mike_The_TV, do games w Is Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII Worth Playing in 2025?
@Mike_The_TV@lemmy.world avatar

There are better games for sure but its not a waste of time to play it. It is very of its era though gameplay wise.

itisileclerk, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@itisileclerk@lemmy.world avatar

That’s nothing, I was forced to play a snake that was eating small dots and getting longer and longer.

Railcar8095, do games w Is Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII Worth Playing in 2025?

No, it never was.

RizzRustbolt, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

Only those with strong negative emotions gather in Silent Hill.

Apeman42, do gaming w Whine harder you assholes
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

Feel like dudes who refuse to ever play as women or in simulated gay relationships are just depriving themselves of some quality content. I haven’t gotten to this BG3 playthrough yet, but you can’t tell me Ascended Astarion and Ambition Gale won’t be the most toxic codependent enabling shit ever, and it is gonna be enthralling to watch that heat up and burn down.

untorquer,

Stay away from Gale. The mechanics of romancing him are more toxic than the character themself. There is no indication of when he locks you out of other options. It’s like playing “Set a Boundary Simulator”. Least fulfilling romance imo. What a fucking weirdo.

Definitely go full in, “I can fix him” with Astarion.

Talking from many patches ago fwiw, maybe some of the mechanics were fixed.

Tracaine, do games w Why do new Silent Hill entries attract so much negativity?

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  • Katana314,

    Damn man, I love Resident Evil and have never finished an SH game, but we have so many of the former (especially considering the indie scene) this seems like an excessively presumptuous comment.

    RightHandOfIkaros,

    Silent Hill was never a Resident Evil clone. It always had a unique identity. Resident Evil, except the original game, has the identity of a Hollywood Action movie. The developers of the game have stated that is what they wanted from the series starting with RE2. Silent Hill, on the other hand, is like a much slower Alfred Hitchcock Suspense film. Slower paced, methodical, and plays on the viewer’s imagination. Where Resident Evil might explicitly say something in the lore, Silent Hill is more likely to only imply it.

    And then we get to Silent Hill 2 Remake which basically is just a copy of Resident Evil 4 Remake, sadly.

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