I don’t know but its fucking annoying. Yes, the Team Silent games were the best, but that doesn’t mean we can’t have more great SH games. I’d like to think Konami learned their lesson with Downpour. Homecoming was alright except for it contradicting previously established lore. I’m going to play f with an open mind. Being an SH fan can be exhausting sometimes.
honestly, imma just say it: silent hill shattered memories had a very interesting take on the series, and I don’t see anything wrong with spin-offs or minor titles deviating from the original formula of gameplay. Are we just bathing a tad too much in nostalgia?
I dont mind spin-offs. I avtually like Silent Hill The Arcade and I wanted to play Book of Memories until I saw its not supported in Vita3k still. I ain’t buying a Vita just for that one game.
I don’t understand IP fans that think spin-offs are mainline entries. Metroid Prime Pinball and Hyrule Warriors (the original one) are among the best of the best spin-offs. I can’t imagine why anyone would think they taint the series they are based on. They are supplemental material made to be fun, not to contribute to the mainline story.
Such a comprehensive example of poor decision making at so many levels. From the decision to charge for a PvP hero shooter in a saturated market of free PvP hero shooters, to spending what appeared to be tens of millions on marketing, PR, and CGI cut scenes, to the worst character designs in living memory. It’s clear they did zero focus group testing on those characters, or if they did, they ignored all feedback. As is so common now, everyone involved in the fiasco is going to be integrated into future projects and destroy them too. They’ll learn nothing and keep doing it.
I struggle to think of worse examples in the AAA space. The colours weren’t just badly complemented, but intentionally violated colour theory. Their skills had nothing to do with their aesthetic or stories. They were just kind of thrown together without any care. Why was Baz, the bulky man, given ninja-like skills? None of the characters were attractive. One was morbidly obese. Almost all of them were gender non-conforming. And the biggest sin of all: none of them were cool. They were all lame as shit. You must know all of this if you’ve been following the story and criticism. It’s fine to disagree and in many instances there is room for subjectivity, but this was one of those rare examples where we can all come together to objectively declare these characters a train wreck.
I like to play games that let you customize your characters. I usually avoid all games that force me to play as anyone but myself in that universe. I think all games should let you choose who you want to be and who you want to be with if romance is an option.
Can’t find any for explicitly homosexual male main characters, but Horizon Zero Dawn and The Last of Us both feature explicitly homosexual female main characters.
Always like to use the Last of Us as a example. If Joel and Tommy were lovers, instead of brothers. How would the story change? The answer of course being, it wouldnt. Joel would still be awesome. But what would be different, is that the character wouldnt be bogged down in social media pandering dogshit.
I think most people who object to LGBT characters, do so because they are almost always caricatures of stereotypes laced with perpetually online social commentary. Ellie is probably one the best LGBT characters ever created. Because shes just a human being, with flaws, hopes, dreams, fears and all the rest. Anyone can relate to her.
Unfortunately, the chuds will object to any representation of any minority. It does not matter how irrelevant their sexuality or race or gender is to the plot. Unless they’re hypersexualized for the male gaze, that is.
Who gives a fuck about the chuds? They are the minority. The focus on them blows them up, like they are some kind of major threat to the world. But the reality is, they are a small group of sad losers who cant get girls to touch them, and spend too much time jerking off to jailbait cartoons under the guise that “shes really a 400 year old demon, so its fine…”.
People, in general, dont like badly written characters. Thats why everyone made fun of that shitty new Dragon age game. The hyper focus on all things lgbt, and so little focus on the story and characters. You coudnt even be an asshole to anyone, but you could do push ups for getting pro nouns wrong…
LGBT people, are just people. This insistence that all they ever do is sit around talking about being LGBT is bullshit. They play games, they watch movies, they go on dates, they cos play, they worry about making rent, they cry after bad break ups, they have hopes, and dreams, fears and nightmares. They are human beings. But modern day “representation” forgets this so often, and just turns them into caricatures. And then only people who like that shit, and the perpetually online. And when I say like it, I mean they can use it for their social media clout chasing.
Like I said, Ellie is a great LGBT character because shes a real character, warts and all. We need more representation like that.
That’s never going to happen. Male sexually just gives people the ick these days. It sucks, but I don’t know what can be done. Even liberals will throw gay men under the bus
You’re ok with pretending to be someone you’re not in every other game you play. You’re definitely not a hero, veteran, combat expert, scientist, alien, or machine, so why do you play those games?
I mean… I won’t willingly choose a female character to play as because of a bit of (what my trans roommate said was effectively) gender dysphoria. So like in Cyberpunk if I play the female V I feel weird because I have a harder time RPing a female character than a male character for some dumb little gaybrain reason. However I don’t need to RP Lara Croft… she just… is. Same with Aloy in Horizon. I couldn’t give less of a tittering fuck playing as those characters and actively enjoy it.
Saying “Nah women icky” and refusing to play ANY is just fucking weird dude
I remember playing the first game when it was released in the Orange Box. I want to say I made it through at least halfway before realizing the player character was a woman. Not that it really makes any difference in the scope of the game, but they did a great job at presenting her as just another faceless silent protagonist.
I went through it pretty quickly the first time. Saw the orange jumpsuit and assumed small framed man. Most games back then either let you know that you would be playing a woman on the box art or allowed for character customization and was probably an RPG.
It was a welcome change from playing the archetypical dude all the time.
“Bro, I’m basically the same as Batman or Master Chief. I could be a medieval fantasy wizard or a cyborg assassin, because I know they have a dick and balls in there. But a woman? That’s too far man.”
I almost never pick female character options in games for this reason. I’m not a woman. I am the main character, I don’t want to “be” a woman.
…but games where you don’t pick? Who gives a fuck, man lol. Do you not watch movies with female leads?? I am not the main character in those games, I am experiencing someone else’s story.
you’re not pretending to be. you’re playing another character.
wait, what is an “interior” quality? so do you only play characters that have—or more likely lack—the same facial hair that you do?
do you have a six pack? cause a lot of game characters do and i don’t think you should play them unless you can cut glass with your abs.
what about hair and eye color? surely you don’t pretend to have different color hair, that’s disgusting; women do that eww very feminine energy.
and of course playing any superhero, magic character, any fantasy race or scifi species … all out of the question, clearly all of them exterior qualities.
I’m assuming—nay, concluding all of this because surely you’re the kind of guy who has consistent principles and this isn’t simply a case of making up a dumb excuse to sound barely more sophisticated than “but girls have cooties”
I’m curious, do you feel you have an inability to think about things from other perspectives in any other part of your daily life? Is abstract thought a challenge for you?
This is an unusual take in my opinion, if you’re being serious of course. Video games are all about pretending. I’m not a serial killer, but I’ve played one. I’m not a taxi driver, but I’ve played one. I’m not a plumber, but I’ve played one. It’s pretty odd to say “I can’t play Spyro because I’m simply not a dragon.”
A lot of folks that have been Satisfactory fans for years are just now realizing the PC is not only female, but also robustly so. And they’re starting to complain about it.
Some of the negative reviews for Eternal Strands over on Steam are hilarious. Because the guys that don’t outright hate being forced to play as a woman take issue with the lack of het romance options. Specifically with having to choose between the “bishie elf” or a “giant blue walrus-bear”.
And they also feel that the walrus-bear romance is less emotionally impactful than the other options.
The people I saw boycotting it, myself included, didn’t think that our absence would kill the game. It should have, because people shouldn’t be supporting a rich, powerful, raging transphobe but they knew it wouldn’t. Meanwhile “go woke go broke” really just doesn’t work unless your entire business hinges on a large amount of terrible people, like the customer base for cheap beer that dared try to treat people like people.
Besides, if your opinion is “they put a gay person near this game and that’s why I won’t play it” vs “the person who gets a shitload of money frok this game is actively working against human rights” and you think those are equal arguments I got a few bridges over distant water I’d love to introduce to.
Edit: Sorry, didnt realise how much I wrote. I will totally understand if you dont read all that.
“Go woke, go broke” isnt about what you are saying its about. It is for some people, those horrible maga cunts, but for the majority it means something else.
The problem is that word “woke”. It means different things to different people. You, I imagine, would say it meant its original meaning. To call out social injustice. Yes? But around the time of the rise of the online influencer, 4chan, started a trend of using “woke” ironically to describe online influencers who used social justice issues for their own benefit. ie “Dont forget to like, share and subscribe so we can fight racism together!”. Those people didnt give a fuck about social issues, only the money they get by saying the right things. Now, at some point, the maga fuckwits misunderstood the 4chan use, and started using it to mean anything that didnt have a white straight male in the lead role.
Now, what “go woke, go broke” means to the majority, the normal people. If that if you make movies, games, tv shows that pander to the perpetually online, people will stop buying your shit. And its true. Not because its a girl in the lead role, or a black guy, and an LGBT person. But because these characters tend to fucking suck.
Ill give you the most obvious example. Rey from the sequel trilogy. She is, what would become known as, a disney girlboss. The girlboss isnt just a female lead. Theres loads of great female leads in great movies. No, the girlboss is like a mary sue, but worse. If you look at Rey, the character, shes great at everything. Everyone loves her. etc etc. But she also, loves to tell(not show) the audience how much of independent woman she is. Did you notice, that she never loses a fight with Kylo Ren? Except once, which wasnt a fight, she was just captured. And that was only done to show as that she didnt need any help, that she could save herself. But the real damage is that because the character is never allowed to fail, she never grows. And worse than that, Kylo Ren is never a threat to her. He doesnt win in light sabre duel, a force dual or anything else. Hes not threat to her what so ever. That makes for a bad villain. And having good villains, is what makes heroes great.
Now, you can look anywhere you want. And you can see the girlbosses and online pandering shit everywhere. And you can also see those franchise, dying. Disney, bought Marvel and Star Wars because they were a girls brand, and wanted to reach the boys market as well. But in the past decade, they have taken both of those brands into the girls camp. So much so, that variety just did a piece of the Disney looking at way to get gen z boy/men back into their brands.
Marvel movies over the past 5 years, are dying a death. The Marvels making less than a 100m domestic, after the first movie making for a billion WW. Even WW money, the Marvel only just manages to reach 200m. And that was on a production budget of over 230m, not contenting marketing and all the other costs that would take it well north of 300m. All these bad movies, with terrible girlbosses, that are just women given toxic masculinity traits, have done so much damage that only a handful of movies now are getting past 500m WW.
No one wanted to play the new dragon age game, because it was cringe as fuck. But oh, look how many people played Baulders gate 3? Almost like including non straight white men into gaming, isnt a problem after all. Almost like, its the writing and the presentation thats the problem.
So whenever you see “Go woke, Go broke”. For the majority, it means stop writing dog shit that panders to perpetually online people who wont go to watch it, or play it.
And as for Hogwarts, who cares? Shes already made money off the licencing. Shes going to be making money on the new tv shows too. Who gives a fuck what she thinks, or what she posts online? You dont have to agree with her. In fact, you probably shouldnt. But then maybe, you shouldnt have made her villain either. Because, as you say, shes got fuck tonnes of money. And at the start all she was doing was speaking out for female women. Not against trans woman. But you all ganged up, and turned her into the monster shes become. She was one of the most left wing people on the fucking planet. And she got turned into a monster, because she wanted womens voices to be heard on the issue as well, and didnt want the language changed to accommodate others. I mean, you do remember that this all started because of the push to refer to women by their biological functions, right?
This whole argument, the culture wars, the gender wars, the trans wars, could all be avoided by just talking to each other. But no, “everyone who doesnt agree with me is a cunt” is everyone mindset. And its escalating into the real world. America is a fucking hell hole just now. The UK, not much better, and worse looming on the horizon. And for what? Because some fucking bigots who hate white men got power in the entertainment industry? And all of sudden instead of their being something for everyone, there was only every things for those social media deemed worthy. We cant even get a hot white girl into a pair of fucking jeans, without people crying online that is nazi propaganda.
Have whatever characters you want. But make them real people, not lectures, not panders, real. That means relatable. Like, imagine the last of us. But instead of brothers, Joel and Tommy are lovers. The story doenst change. Almost nothing changes. But Joel, would still be relatable and likeable. Because it was his character that spoke to people, not the fact he was straight. Shit, look at black sails. That did have a gay lead character. And he was awesome. Totally fucking relatable. Brilliant tv show by the way if you havent watched it. Point is, make good shows, good movies, good games and you can avoid the word “woke” going anywhere near your product.
I’ll be honest, I wanted to read it all but the skim seemed enough and moving my trans friend 3hrs away today is taking it outta me.
I can counter with one simple argument: Straight characters often suck rocks, are subject to the same lazy writing, and there are so many dude “girlbosses” in fiction it would tiring if we weren’t desenstized to it.
And that’s what’s really happening. We aren’t used to seeing a female lead all that often, especially one who is just a person and not ultimately relying on male characters. If we want to talk about pandering writing we can look no further than all the incredibly forced straight romances in media and we’ll have enough shitty material to last a lifetime. They’ll force anyone together so long as their genitals match up just so a movie can have a romance aspect when it never needed one. If their private bits don’t match it’s suddenly “pandering” and people clamber to demand some kind of justification as if there needs to be a special reason why someone is gay in the first place.
Youre right, there is male mary sues, and they suck too. I mean, The Rock has it in his contract that hes not allowed to lose a fight, and people just arent turning up for him like they were. But hes not a girlboss, a girlboss is its own unique thing, because we know The Rock sucks, but no one is calling us racist for saying it.
But look at Ghostbusters 2016 all the way to the Acolyte, and all you get is “if you dont like it, its cos your sexist/racist/homophobic”. Does that sound right to you? The general audience, is all racists? That youtube grifters convinced 153 million households around the world not to watch a good show because there was a gay black girl in it? Sorry, not for me.
No one is telling me The Rock is fucking amazing in Black Adam, and then calling me a cunt for saying its a rubbish movie. But I said I didnt like the last of us part 2, and I was sexist and a homophobe. And no matter how detailed I made the point that it was a bad deconstruction of righteous avenger, no one would hear a word of it. I was just sexist and homophobic.
And this is getting to the larger point, where the companies making these things are painting the fans of them, as incels when they dont like it. Funny how we were incels when we didnt like bad movies like The Green Lantern… And then on top of that, you have things like She Hulk and The Batman making incels the villains. Oh what could they possibly be saying here?
Last thing Ill say on the subject is this. I grew up in the 80s. When I was a kid, I bullied for liking star trek, star wars, marvel comics etc. Called name, beaten, all that great stuff. Now that Im older, Im still being called names now that those things are popular, or were popular. And it was the same crowd both times. The popular kids, who thought they were too good for nerd stuff in the past and now think it should change in the future to reflect them. The only problem with that is, that they dont actually care about it. And now, the nerds like me have been chased off. We are going either. And thats how you take a 2 billion a movie franchise, and turn it into a tv franchise that cant even make CW numbers.
Theres really no way around it. The treatment of the core audience, has chased everyone away. Star Wars, Marvel, etc. And now Disney is looking for a new IP to bring the boys back… Its insane. They had two of the biggest boy brands on the planet, and then made a massive big deal about making them for women. Who dont care about it. Cos most women, dont care about that stuff. Most probably just go with their boyfriends, but that they arent going…
Anyway, thanks for reading. Bigger thanks for not letting this get into a name calling match. Good luck with the move, and have a great weekend.
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