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frezik, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

Axiom Verge. I don’t know how they managed to improve on the feeling of Super Metroid, but they did it.

janewaydidnothingwrong,

If you havent played the sequel I would recommend it. It definitely is not the same as the original but is still really solid and hopefully there will be further games

TheKracken,

Agreed both are really good games. One of the few games I’ve 100%

e0qdk, do games w The osu! Open Source Client, Lazer, Has Been Made the Default Download Option for New Users
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I’ve seen recordings of people playing this before in stream VODs a couple times before the player fired up another game, and, well, this post finally got me to try it.

The on-ramp for new players trying to make sense of it is, uh, not great. Trying to make an account on the website tells you to download the game. Okay… Trying to make an account in the game then sent me back to the website!? (Why not just let me register on the website in the first place?)

The basic idea of the circle mode is easy enough to understand – although I doubt I will ever get very good at this, at least with a mouse, and I’m still not quite sure on whether or not I’m supposed to hold a key down/click-and-drag or just click and then follow the motion? – but there are other modes that it threw me in (mania?) when I tried loading another song from the catalog and it was rather difficult to even figure out what keys I was supposed to push. (The diagram on the wiki was not helpful – I spent a while confused thinking I was supposed to use ASDF for a “4K” when it seems like it’s actually DFJK for some reason?) Probably all makes sense to someone who’s been playing it for years, but, yeah… Pretty UI, but the on-boarding could use some work.

Might be fun to poke around at for music discovery though.

Anyway, that’s my 2 cents worth from giving it a try.

colderr,

In Osu! (Standard, so the circle clicking mode) you can, by default, use Z and X aswell, instead of the mouse buttons. Standard is a long learning process, and if you do decide to maybe play it again, my personal recommendation would be not to get stuck on PP (performance points), it could really ruin the fun of the game, when you play the same song and map for the 100th time in a row.

Mania, I haven’t really played so I can’t really help with that.

A tutorial song and map should’ve immediately downloaded after installing Lazer, but if it didn’t, I recommend downloading it, cause it does help with the basics of Osu! Standard.

Also settings has keybinds and you can change anything to anything pretty much. I would recommend clicking around it.

e0qdk,
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I did do the tutorial (after fucking up the first time through the initial setup and only getting the recommended songs and going “?!?!?!” for a moment) so I know about Z/X but what I mean is it’s not entirely clear if I’m supposed to keep holding them while dragging. The UI’s clear enough if I missed entirely, but if I kind of got it, I’m not really sure if I’m doing it right. With the reversals and the circle closing-in timing and a lot going on on the screen visually, it’s a bit much all at once. TBF, it’d probably make sense if I spend more time poking at it; those were my initial impressions.

Thanks for trying to help me, btw, with your comment; always appreciated.

colderr,

Sliders you are supposed to hold until the slider ends, so as soon as it ends, you can let go. Reverse sliders (so the ones that have arrows and go backwards) you hold the same way and keep holding when it hits the arrow and goes back to the beginning, then you can let go.

Starting off, it is a lot to focus on, but you do get more and more comfortable with it the more you play. It’s the first game where I’ve really seen that play more to get better, because theory doesn’t help much.

If you do keep on playing, then more power to you. Top players are insane, so I’d recommend looking at someone like mrekk or Ninerik on Youtube. If you don’t then at least you tried it.

MysticKetchup, do games w Figured I'd join in sharing what I'm playing- my platinum team ☺️
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What’s the rom hack? Gen 4 is one of the few Pokemon gens I haven’t played and I’ve wanted to do it with a Rom hack that fixes some of the old issues with it

Snowpix,
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Renegade Platinum’s the way to go. There’s much more pokemon variety, the trainers are stronger and smarter, and there’s plenty of QOL fixes that make it feel more modern.

Cris_Color,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

The ROM hack I’m playing is just following platinum. I don’t remember what quality of life changes there are, but it adds your Pokémon waking behind you like in HG SS

This is my first play through, so I wanted something focused on quality of life stuff, or that could be described as vanilla+

pokehacking.com/fangames/following-platinum/

(Having looked at the link now I don’t think it adds any quality of life stuff, and I just REALLY wanted my Pokémon to follow me. I think renegade might have a version based on following platinum though? It makes more changes like difficulty though)

Cris_Color, (edited )
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Hey, I was researching my options for gen 5 and found this very helpful thread (though I don’t know that it’s entirely complete):

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonROMhacks/comments/1chx77r/compilation_of_vanilla_quality_of_life_qol_hacks/

and this option from the thread, which is compatible with following platinum if you wanted quality of life, plus your pokemon following you :) (frankly I really wish I had played this instead 😅)

https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/platinumqol-now-compatible-with-following-platinum.465574/

and following platinum https://pokehacking.com/fangames/following-platinum/

I think I was mistaken that renegade is compatible with following platinum, here’s it’s page if you’re interested in something that makes more changes and adjusts the difficulty curve :)

https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/52294-pok%C3%A9mon-renegade-platinum/

MysticKetchup,
@MysticKetchup@lemmy.world avatar

Nice! Yeah I don’t mind a modest difficulty increase but some of the romhacks really don’t play well without super optimized teams of competitive mons

Cris_Color,
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Yeah thats very fair. My impression is that Draynos hacks are usually not brutal, but there’s no version that doesn’t patch difficulty so if you like the challenges you either play with higher difficulty or you pick a different patch

I want more vanilla+, so I’m usually a tad bummed about that, but people regard his hacks really highly, even if theyre less what I’m looking for :)

I hope you find the right one for you! ☺️

yoriaiko, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

Castlevanias: Aria of Sorrow, Order of Eclessia, Dawn of Sorrow, Portrait of Ruin (no, no Symphony on my top-top list, it’s awesome, but not that awesome);

Ori and the Blind Forest mentioned already;

Axiom Verge 1 and 2;

Some call it heresy, but… Dark Souls! bit harder, bit turn-based (combat, aye, heresy x2, but stamina system makes it turn based for me, thats wild)… but running all around, having maze with many options, each boss unlocks new paths and parts of map… 200% metroidvania to me.

mic_check_one_two,

+1 for the Castlevania Aria/Dawn of Sorrow games. The Soma Cruz games were where the series truly hit its peak.

Portrait of Ruin was alright. I enjoyed that they found a way to incorporate more varied environments into the series.

Order of Ecclesia took me a while to start enjoying. The weird hybrid 3D graphics threw me off at first. Once I got past that, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

whoisearth, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
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I haven’t seen it mentioned and granted I’ve not played it but I’ve watched both be played and Blasphemy 1 and 2 seems really, really good.

Coelacanth,
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I don’t know, I played Blasphemous this summer and had a very mixed time with it. I really wanted to love it but it mostly pissed me off. Too much gameplay design specifically intended to waste your time and make you miserable. Which - I guess - is the point because the game is all about the virtue of suffering. I just didn’t find it particularly fun to play.

Great world building, music and art though.

BlameTheAntifa, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

Ori. Both of them.

They are works of high art.

demonsword, (edited ) do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
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It’s a little old and more Metroid- than -vania: A Robot Named Fight

EDIT: since no one else mentioned it, Timespinner is kinda good too, despite being a somewhat short game

EntropyPure, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

New school: Hollow Knight and Silksong

Old school: Super Metroid

CileTheSane,
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Hollow Knight didn’t really do it for me so I haven’t tried Silksong yet (I hated not having a map for each area until I purchased one).

I may have to try putting an emulator on my Steam Deck and seeing if Super Metroid holds up.

Phelpssan,
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If you didn’t like Hollow Knight you probably won’t like Silksong either.

The game is good, and incredibly polished, but feels aimed at the people who 100% the first game and wanted more.

CileTheSane,
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Good to know. I did play Hollow Knight for a while but drifted off of it, it is not something that I personally would want to 100%

fartsparkles,

I’d say the second one was even harder too.

datavoid,

Super Metroid definitely holds up

Ofiuco,
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I may have to try putting an emulator on my Steam Deck

I always tought it was standard for pc players to have at least 1 emulator installed, usually Retroarch or Emulation Station.

But since you are willing to give them a shot, try Metroid Fusion too, I admit it’s heavily on rails, but it feels fun and the movement is improved over Super Metroid.

There is a patch to make Super Metroid behave somewhat like MF, but I think playing it vanilla first is fun on it’s own.

dukemirage,

when oldschool is actually more accessible than newschool

kratoz29,

More accessible? Please explain.

As in easier?

dukemirage,

Yes. At least I didn’t hit any roadblocks like in Hollowknight where a lot of patience and concentration was required to beat certain bosses and not lose your sanity on the ridiculously long ways to the arena.

tuckerm, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
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The only one I’ve played is Dead Cells, and it’s fantastic. I haven’t even bought any of the DLC, the base game is already endlessly replayable. I also listen to the soundtrack at least once a week.

I definitely want to get around to playing Hollow Knight and Animal Well at some point.

anguo,

Not sure I’d categorize Dead Cells as a metroidvania myself. More of a rogue lite.

tuckerm,
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I’ve always thought it was both. I’m definitely no expert on Metroidvanias, since I’ve only played the one (if Dead Cells counts as one). I actually thought the term “Metroidvania” was about the movement and combat – today I just learned that it’s about the exploration and finding things. You do at least have to do that in the bank level, if I remember right. And the castle level.

CileTheSane,
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There are also areas you can’t access until you have beaten a specific boss which gives you exploration abilities for future runs (ground pound, grow vines)

anguo,

It does have metroidvania aspects, for sure. But if its the only “metroidvania game” you’ve played, then you haven’t really played any metroidvania games, in my opinion.

SlartyBartFast, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

| love super metroid even if the control scheme is dated

Grass, do gaming w Still waiting...

halo 3 and onward sucked though

Harvey656,
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Whoa there, unpopular opinions belong in a different community you absolutely incorrect person.

Grass,

I dunno man, the flip flopping on the weird cortana fixation got old fast

sleep_deprived,

That was 4 and beyond, really. Cortana isn’t even in 3 except little snippets until you grab her from High Charity in the second to last level.

Grass,

It must have been me hoping that cortana would reprise her role in 3… aside from odst and seemingly reach, the only thing I remember is how much of a slog the cortana hallucinations or whatever that was and the didact part being somehow even less enjoyable

Harvey656,
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Wasn’t that 4 and 5?

sleep_deprived,

Whoa, 3 and ODST absolutely rule, and Reach is great if you aren’t a purist. Especially Reach’s forge mode, that shit was the bee’s knees back in the day

Grass,

I wasn’t inlcuding odst, and was reach the one that opens in a helicopter with the invisible elite on the ground? Those get a pass. None of the numbered releases after 2 did it for me though

Xttweaponttx,

Perfectly said. God Reach’s multiplayer holds up well

bvoigtlaender, (edited ) do games w The osu! Open Source Client, Lazer, Has Been Made the Default Download Option for New Users
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ill wait for a client for my nintendo dsi :)

missingno,
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That would be the original Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan

bvoigtlaender,
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I actually played the western release that came after that. Might get into the action of translating it: gbatemp.net/…/recruiting-english-translations-for…

BirdObserver,

Man, I haven’t imported many games but that game and its sequel were some of the best gaming purchases I ever made.

Really tried to get into Osu (even looked into some of those digital drawing boards artists use, just to try to make it feel like the original) but to me the game just isn’t anywhere near the same without a stylus and a resistive touch screen - two things which are outdated tech now - so I don’t think I’ll ever get something that really recaptures it. I’m glad that the basic gameplay is still being kept alive though, even though what I really want I can never have.

LiveLM, do games w The osu! Open Source Client, Lazer, Has Been Made the Default Download Option for New Users

Damn, that’s huge!
I thought they were still ways off from making the switch!

LettyWhiterock, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
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I really like Rabi-ribi

Anissem, do gaming w Are there any good communities, Lemmy or otherwise, for gamers 30+?
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I’ve been a member of a 30+ gaming community for over 6 years now. There’s a lot of great people and you’ll find groups playing various games each night. We even have an active sim racing group that’s finishing up another race season on iRacing. It’s a discord community and if you’re interested, there’s a website you can apply. Over 30 Clan

SendMePhotos,

I think it’s a neat thing but I actually hate how you need to integrate with discord to be considered. Joining a discord is one thing but I am so anti mixing services and avoid it if possible.

Is there an alternative to be involved without linking my discord account?

Anissem,
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Unfortunately the community is entirely based around discord. They do a bit of screening to avoid people with lots of Steam bans, people under 30, or anyone who looks like they’d be toxic to the community. All applications are voted on by the community. It’s also a 501c non profit organization. I honestly haven’t had one negative experience with the community. I left all traditional forms of social media other than Lemmy and this discord community. Both have been fairly positive outlets in my life that I hope continue to grow and thrive.

cerebralhawks,

Just skimming their website, they sound awesome. But then I saw they focus on online gaming. That explains the rigid recruitment. I play single-player games. They don’t have anything for me. But it looks neat for those who play those games.

(I’m not the guy you’ve been talking to, I just happened in here, in case you see me in the message centre, wouldn’t want it to be confusing.)

moody,

I posted because I’m looking for adults to play games with. Most of the games I play are single player, but there are a few that are multiplayer that I’d like to play with other people, and most randoms you find in lobbies or in related Discords are children or just too young for me to personally relate to, so I don’t really want to play with them.

I started playing ARC Raiders recently , and I only have one friend to play with, so I’ve been mostly playing solo.

Anissem,
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I’m just starting to get into Arc Raiders as well, lots of fun so far

moody,

I’m getting to the point where I’m not afraid of most robots, but I haven’t been part of any PVP yet that wasn’t just me dying before I knew who killed me. I want to explore the new map, but it’s heavily PVP-oriented, so going in with a full squad is going to be more interesting.

Anissem,
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It’s a lot of fun with an entire group in Voice Chat. I normally shy away from PVP but so far this has felt great. It’s a nice mix of mainly PVE with occasional bursts of PVP

Anissem,
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There’s lot of people that play SP games and just chat about them on channels and even voice. Lots of MP though for sure

moody,

Looks promising

Anissem,
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Hope to see you there!

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