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IWW4, (edited ) do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?
  • the last of us (because I just love it)
  • Star Wars knights of the old republic (it was so much fun exploring none skywalker Star Wars stories)
  • pong (first commercially successful game)
  • baldur’s gate II (because I love it)
  • E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial ( it is universality recognized as the worst game of all time)
  • the legend of Zelda (it is universally recognized as one of the greatest of all time)
  • world of Warcraft ( the most successful English mmorpg of all time)
  • Warcraft III
  • sim city
  • Everquest ( it is called evercrack for a reason, this game literally gave rise to emotional support groups) The most amazing tidbit about that game. After it had been out three years I saw a guy playing his character in a Wizards of the Coast store, who had a really weird color name over his head. Apparently one got that color when you have looked 500 days on the character. I did the math… that is real time days. That meant he had played that game 1.5 years of the last three. My mouth fell open……)
  • MUD 1
  • minecraft
  • doom
  • call of duty
  • halo
  • minesweeper
  • tetris
  • god of war
  • front mission IV
  • pacman
  • digdug
  • space invaders
  • frogger
  • tron
  • phantasy star online
0li0li,

All my picks are in your list, except Quake 3 (purest PvP)

yermaw,

Same list (except front mission, thats brand new to me)

Want to add Phantasy Star Online - first online console game. Nearly gave it to Chu Chu Rocket before Google told me no.

IWW4,

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Zorsith, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Far Cry 2 and far cry 3.

3 for a legendary compelling villain (Vaas)

2 for genuinely immersive in-game UI design and challenging enemy AI.

ech,

Vaas is such a mid-tier villain for a seriously mid/problematic game.

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Fair enough, ill still leave it solely for the “definition of insanity” meme origin

mic_check_one_two,

Certain parts of the game haven’t aged well, but there’s no denying that Vaas was a wonderfully done villain. He’s a great test case for the “a good villain can’t be absent and mysterious” argument. Most of the memorable villains in gaming have been nearly omnipresent; Vaas, GladOS, Andrew Ryan, Handsome Jack, etc…

All of them are good villains because they are consistently present. They have enough screen time to actually develop into full fledged characters. They’re not just some dark and mysterious overlord, patiently waiting in the bottom of a dungeon for you to come fight them. They’re persistently in your face, interacting with you. Even if they’re not actively hindering your progress, the fact that they have a continued presence means their eventual downfall is that much more satisfying.

ech,

I mean, if that’s all you want in a villain, I guess, yeah - Vaas was constantly pestering the player. His dialogue and mannerisms were just awful though. Philosophy 101 freshman tweets level awful. I feel like putting him on the same level as GLaDOS should be criminal.

mic_check_one_two,

Hell, if philosophy is the driving factor for a good villain, then GladOS wouldn’t even be on your list. A villain doesn’t need to be morally grey to be a good villain. Plenty of good villains are evil just for the sake of being evil. Even GladOS would fall into that box.

The point was simply that players need an end goal to keep them focused, and having a consistently present villain acts as a moving end goal. The player is driven to chase that goal until the conclusion, because the villain is always just out of reach. If you see a goal waiting on the horizon, the march there feels like a slog. But if the goal is consistently at your fingertips as you chase it, you’ll chase it all the way to the horizon without even realizing.

ech,

Hell, if philosophy is the driving factor for a good villain

…I didn’t say it was? That’s just Vaas’ whole schtick - poorly understood philosophical quips that everyone eats up for some reason. Again, if all you need is a bad guy constantly needling you, then I suppose I see why you like Vaas. I just don’t think that’s enough to make him “museum worthy”.

If we wanna get into what I think makes a top tier video game villain, I’d say the critical characteristics would be menace, intelligence, and capability. In short, they need to be an obvious threat that know what they’re doing and are a challenge to best, both mentally and physically. To be honest, I can’t think of all that many villains in video games that I would consider that good. GLaDOS fits for sure. I think the Kingslayer in The Witcher 2 is also quite good. Fumbled ending aside, Mass Effect had a good run of baddies as well - Saren, The Illusive Man/The Collectors, The Reapers. There might be more, but that’s all I can think of atm.

Guamer, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

System/BioShock

BodePlotHole, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

Stardew Valley

Portal

Tetris

IWW4,

Hell yes on portal

And you will be cake

Provinto, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?
@Provinto@lemmy.ml avatar

Dwarf Fortress

Dis32, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

Ratchet and Clank Trilogy, of course!

BadNewsNobody, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

Metal Gear Solid

Kolanaki, do gaming w A Crusader Kings fan makes a small request
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

If you need to have experience for reference, that means the animators for BG3 fuck.

Wait a minute… They used motion capture for that game… 🤔

Hadriscus,

As a 3D animator, I can confidently tell you we routinely act out the part and film ourselves for reference, usually under multiple angles and over multiple takes.

elephantium, do gaming w A Crusader Kings fan makes a small request
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

It’s Crusader Kings, not Kings of the Witcher!

MonkderVierte,

Your point is?

Maldreamer,

They might be referring to many of the implied sex and sex Geralt has in witcher 3 and earlier witcher games.

elephantium,
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly

FlashMobOfOne, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

Bioshock

SlartyBartFast, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

It seemed like every search on Itchio was 70% NSFW results before this move

Palacegalleryratio, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

Sid Meiers Alpha Centuri, it’s the best 4x game of its era and is a perfect example of how well games from the 90s can play, in many ways it feels like a modern game made with severe technical limitations. Today the graphics are outright bad (they weren’t exactly jaw dropping at the time either), and the UI lacks a couple of modern sensibilities and QOL features but everything else is top notch.

Wigners_friend, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

Deus ex human revolution: explores a meta narrative of how you use power in computer games. Your character has incredible capability. You could obliterate every enemy with ease. It's a completely different game if you try to avoid killing those who are just getting by (sure a security guard will shoot you, but they are expecting lethal terrorists). You use the power you have to avoid killing, not to make it easy.

CobblerScholar, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

Pong Pac-man Super Mario Pokemon Dark Souls Tetris Wii Sports Halo The Sims

mohab, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?

I can only speak about my favorite genres:

Action games: this one is easy—Devil May Cry 1.

Shmups: Hmm… Battle Garegga? I'd actually rather go for a CAVE shmup seeing how influential they were, but I could be biased: DoDonPachi.

Fighting games: hmm… a bunch could go in here, but if I have to choose one, it should be Street Fighter II. Biased pick is Guilty Gear Plus R.

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